Why are many protestants opposed to honoring the Blessed Virgin Mary?

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Ouch…we also see Jesus Christ as the sole mediator…and He is our sole focus at daily Mass, He alone Who intercedes for us to the Father…

The focus is rather the communion of saints who pray for us, and more so,…fulfilling the Christian brotherhood and communion…that we are a family…a mother must always be there to have a family…and we have Mary…who prays for us and walks with us in Jesus.
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I just want to say thank you for so much wonderful discussion about Our Lady, our faith and how we can better understand one another.

THIS is what makes this the best site on the internet…

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James
 
James,

I appreciate how you conduct yourself on the forums here. You have been very kind and thoughtful when posting comments to me, as well as to others. Keep up the great work.

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Thank you,

JK
 
James,

I appreciate how you conduct yourself on the forums here. You have been very kind and thoughtful when posting comments to me, as well as to others. Keep up the great work.

👍

Thank you,

JK
Thank you for your kind words.
I’m glad that my small contributions have helped others…

Peace
James
 
I just want to say thank you for so much wonderful discussion about Our Lady, our faith and how we can better understand one another.

THIS is what makes this the best site on the internet…

Peace
James
It’s kind people like yourself that makes this the BEST site on the internet.
God Bless:thumbsup:
 
Thanks…I have nothing but what the Spirit gives…
And I am often surprised even as I write something…It’s kinda weird…

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James
Its the Spirit’s guidance that keeps you writing good things with charity. We are all blessed by it.

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Which just proves evangelicals are dumber than a door knob when it comes to the Trinity. Oh they will SAY the believe the F,S, AND HS are one yet bring up “MOG” and I’ve heard “Jesus is not god, he is son of god”…boggles the brain!
Mary is not the eternal Mother of the Trinity. She is the Mother of God Incarnate. You just may have a better time reasoning this way with doorknobs next time.😉

Doorknobs are everywhere!😃

Non-Catholics are ignorant but they are not as defiant about BVM as one might think. Council of Ephesus decreed (~430) that Mary is Theotokos. That may be easier for most ignorant protestants to understand if not open a door for them.
 
Mary is not the eternal Mother of the Trinity. She is the Mother of God Incarnate. You just may have a better time reasoning this way with doorknobs next time.😉

Doorknobs are everywhere!😃

Non-Catholics are ignorant but they are not as defiant about BVM as one might think. Council of Ephesus decreed (~430) that Mary is Theotokos. That may be easier for most ignorant protestants to understand if not open a door for them.
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This^^^ This RIGHT HERE!👍 That being said… I didn’t know Presbyterians used the title Mother of God. Guess we as Christians are more alike than we think we are.
Yep. I heard the phrase Mother of God at Westminster Seminary, a Presbyterian school. As an Anglican now, I have no problem with it or the idea of asking Mary or the saints to pray for me.
 
I think some Protestants, especially Fundamentalists think that any honor given to Mary is the equivalent of idolatry. Of course they are dead wrong.
 
I think some Protestants, especially Fundamentalists think that any honor given to Mary is the equivalent of idolatry. Of course they are dead wrong.
Often times these things come about as a reactionary response to something perceived in the speech and actions of others.
While the vast majority of people, both Catholic/orthodox and protestant, properly honor Mary there are inevitably those few who take it too far, and this elicits a response, an “equal and opposite reaction” in others.
This can very easily turn into a “taffy pull” as each side becomes more adamant and even strident in defense of their own viewpoint, which only aggravates the situation.

As we have discovered here in this thread, much of the problem comes from a misunderstanding of what is being said and done; of how we use terminology; and what the Church actually teaches and requires. Catholics and non-Catholics alike can suffer from this lack of knowledge and understanding, myself included. It is THIS lack that we need to try to address, especially when we are evangelizing others.

When we are in conversation with a non-Catholic who has issues with Marion Dogmas, Doctrines, and practices/devotions, we need to recognize their concerns and charitably address them in such a way as they feel comfortable and drawn toward Holy Mother Church, and to Christ in the Eucharist.
THIS is what Our Lady desires, that we be drawn, not toward her, but toward her Son.

Peace
James
 
Yes I’ve heard that one too. Of course what is not said here is that if you want to you most certainly CAN go directly to your father and ask…Just depends on who you are more comfortable talking to…🤷
James my dear Brother, while I do respect your opinion, I do disagee with you here. There is only going to the Father in imperfect worship.

The Word became Flesh through the Incarnation. Christ Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life, no-one comes to the Father but through Him. In other words this is to walk right by the Bridge talked about above in Christ, and that Bridge correctly understood as Christ is also the Mystical Body of Christ thus His Church.

That said, I remember as a child praying to God the Father, the Cross is so far away at early youth that its very difficult to comprehend, here God the Father places you in His Sons arms when He so Wills, just as Mary leads all Souls to Her Son.

Peace
 
I think some Protestants, especially Fundamentalists think that any honor given to Mary is the equivalent of idolatry. Of course they are dead wrong.
Many issues promoted daily Holly. I happened to watch Jimmy Swaggart for a few moments last night and the conversation of the Incarnation came up by a caller. Who explained correctly Jesus could not be conceived in Sin through the hypostatic union.

However they will take the call, cut of the caller, then promote their own theory which Mary was a sinner no different than any other women. Then introduce what is in fact heretical theology into the equation.

The response was most disturbing, complete heresy and definately not Biblical. They used the term Mary was a vessel in a state of sin, which God passed through without contracting the Sin because He is God and could do that, then the analogy used was if God rode a Donkey He wouldn’t contract the Donkeys filth. 🤷

Nevertheless, when this type of heretical thinking occurs on world wide broadcasting it no doubt becomes an issue.
 
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Yes I’ve heard that one too. Of course what is not said here is that if you want to you most certainly CAN go directly to your father and ask…Just depends on who you are more comfortable talking to…
Gary,
In saying that you disagree with my statement, are you saying that we cannot go directly to the Father and ask for things?

Also - I never said anything about “perfect” or “imperfect” worship…so I’m confused on this reference here.
The Word became Flesh through the Incarnation. Christ Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life, no-one comes to the Father but through Him. In other words this is to walk right by the Bridge talked about above in Christ, and that Bridge correctly understood as Christ is also the Mystical Body of Christ thus His Church.
That said, I remember as a child praying to God the Father, the Cross is so far away at early youth that its very difficult to comprehend, here God the Father places you in His Sons arms when He so Wills, just as Mary leads all Souls to Her Son.
I have no problems with any of this.
BUT - as we relate things to prayer and especially when we are talking to “Bible Christians” it is important to note that the last words of our Lady in Scripture are, “Do whatever He tells you to do”, and then, when Jesus is asked to teach us how to pray He says:
“Pray then like this: Our Father who art in heaven…” (Mt 6:9)
With these instructions, directly from Him who is “the Way the Truth and the Life”, why should any of us fear to send up our prayers directly to the Father to ask for anything?

The SS Christian will legitimately ask this same question. When he does, we must not attempt to dissuade him from doing so. Rather, in so far as these things relate to Mary (and the saints) they need to be built upon this sure foundation of being able to approach our Father directly - as Jesus taught us - imperfectly or not…

Peace
James
 
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