Why are we not actively fighting for the lives of the unborn? What about the feminization of the Church?

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*"I was on the 40 Days for Life mailing list; year before last, I participated in their daily devotional prayers, since I was unable as a college student to regularly travel to abortion facilities. Concerning their recent campaign, they write in their November 9 2009 letter, “More than 580 babies were spared from abortion”.

They reported 580 babies spared for their Fall 2009 campaign, and assume that more than that were saved."* ~ ethereality

How do they know this? How did they document it? And why do you assume that “more than that were saved”?

T57
 
*"I was on the 40 Days for Life mailing list; year before last, I participated in their daily devotional prayers, since I was unable as a college student to regularly travel to abortion facilities. Concerning their recent campaign, they write in their November 9 2009 letter, “More than 580 babies were spared from abortion”.

They reported 580 babies spared for their Fall 2009 campaign, and assume that more than that were saved."* ~ ethereality

How do they know this? How did they document it? And why do you assume that “more than that were saved”?

T57
Women who change their mind tell them: you saved my baby.

40daysforlife.com/splash.cfm

God bless,
Ed
 
“Women even those with a career typically have more personal time than men.”

Where did this idea come from? A woman who decides to have a full time career outside the home usually works at least 40 hours a week in that job. If she cannot afford outside help at home, (in my parenthood days, hubby worked his job, period) she is still in charge of the kids, shopping for clothing for the kids, meals, cooking, usually cleaning up after the meal, laundry, keeping the house somewhat clean and liveable, making sure everyone’s schedule is on track. Now tell me a career outside the home woman usually has more personal time than men. Just because women don’t get a pay check for caring for the family doesn’t mean it isn’t time consuming.
If you compare the jobs men work on average and what women work on average, men work longer hours and physically more demanding jobs. Ye some women work over 40s hours, but most dont. Most men work well over 40 hours and more likely to do physical work which is more tiring. Since I entered the employemnt world in my late teens, if you tallied the weekly hours men worked and what women worked and devided that by how many men and how many women the mens average per week would be higher. Women are still more likely to have a part time job than men, and men are still more likely to work a second job to make ends meet than women… Men are more likely to work shifts other than first shift than women are. A second shift secratary is just as much a rarity as a male secratary.
 
Women who change their mind tell them: you saved my baby.

40daysforlife.com/splash.cfm
As edwest implied, tammy, the figures come from them; participating in the campaign, they would regularly send out stories about women who’d changed their minds. They also have some training for the leaders of the events at the various abortion facilities – I’ve never been one, so I don’t know what the training is like – so hopefully they don’t miscount a woman who’s simply rescheduled her murdering (and thus walks back out of the clinic still carrying the child, only to return later).

So the numbers come from the 40 Days for Life people, however they get it; I checked an email, I think, and they have the emails’ content hosted on their website somewhere, although I don’t know if they keep regular archives.

I personally did not assume anywhere in this thread that the number was greater than 580. I was rather critical, actually, and conjectured that even if you were to double the number of those saved, it still wouldn’t compare with the vast numbers being murdered. But the reason they choose to be optimistic is simple: The feedback they get from people driving by suggests that other, more shy people experience similar emotion but do not stop and talk about it.

They would send out stories about encounters with people driving by: police, on and off duty; women who’d had abortions, or almost had them; I remember reading one story of a woman with a toddler in the passenger seat who said that, thanks to a previous rally they had, she decided to keep her son (whom she now loves dearly), and began crying as she recounted that, if it wasn’t for them, she would have had him killed.

So basically, the people who are outside the abortion facility serve as a witness for those driving by, and when one sees a car drive up, pause, and keep driving, one can only wonder, “What was that all about?” And, since these people tend to be fairly cheerful people, since Christianity has perhaps the best system in the world of positive philosophy (namely, one positing that love, justice and mercy are personified and are the foundation of the universe), they tend to be optimistic and hope for the best.

And all that says nothing about the effects of prayer, which I myself know essentially nothing about; priests have mentioned that the drive behind the abortion industry and abortion media is demonic, and that prayer is more powerful than anything else we can do. So people who simply wake up one morning and realize that the swelling inside of them is a person, not a parasitic lump of tissue, could have been directly affected by the 40 Days for Life prayers. So when they say that “only 580 saved that we know about,” what they are saying is true, precisely that: They know of 580 because the mothers told them they had changed their minds, etc., but it is fair to argue that the number is higher, due to the positive influence (and, if God is real, then positive power) these people exerted.

I say positive influence because they typically – from what I read, appearances – do more than simply pray and hold up signs. They give counsel, provide resources for many women – I keep hearing that no woman wants her pregnancy to be destroyed, even if she isn’t aware that it’s a person – rather, she goes because she feels pressured and helpless: She’s still in school, she can’t afford him, she’s all alone.

I’ve heard it is not uncommon for a student health insurance plan to become invalid should the student become pregnant (or a mother), for example, so these factors are often related. Or, something will pay for the abortion, but will not pay to help raise the child.

So it is a positive influence in that these people enable her to choose to keep the child, when she previously felt unable to make that choice.

Hope this answers your question, tammy57!
 
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