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Hisalone
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I am trying to expand your thinking you are limiting yourself to the possibilities of how and why God has spoken to us in the ways He has.
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kalt
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Actually, we do. We celebrate birthdays on whatever day is convenient. If someone’s b-day falls during the week, we’ll celebrate it on either the weekend before or after.
When a relative is away when someone’s b-day is fairly close to when the other person will return, we hold off.
When 2 or more people’s b-day fall within a few weeks of each other, we’ll celebrate on one day for all. Growing up, a few siblings and I shared one cake on one day.
People who are born on leap day routinely celebrate on a different day - or they’d wait years for another celebration.
Would you prefer we celebrate Christmas in the Spring? That’s good, too, and the music industry would love it. No more repackaging old songs to entice people to buy them–yet again. Think of all the new Christmas songs they’re be churning out. And new movies!
I hope you’ll scehdule it for late in the Spring, because we don’t see warm temps up here until late May. If we’re not getting snow on Christmas, I at least want warm weather and sun.
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yellowbird
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Adoptive parents are REAL parents.
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graceandglory
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jakasaki
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@ OP ~
There is a baby found somewhere and it’s dropped of to a hosptial/police.
These institutions will eventually put the baby up for adoption.
No one knows the baby’s “real birth date”.
You, meaning **YOU **adopt this baby.
Are you going to celebrate your adopted childs birthday as years go by?
There is a baby found somewhere and it’s dropped of to a hosptial/police.
These institutions will eventually put the baby up for adoption.
No one knows the baby’s “real birth date”.
You, meaning **YOU **adopt this baby.
Are you going to celebrate your adopted childs birthday as years go by?
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Irish_Catholic_1
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God speaks through His Church
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Nine_Two
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Because he gave you, and you alone the ability to truly figure out his divine mysteries, never mind that there have been many, many, men greater then all of us here over the past 2,000 years.
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jakasaki
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And who made you an “authority” of translating God’s word to us?
This thread is becoming more ridiculous by each post.
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graceandglory
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Many of the early Christians were Jewish. so they were already celebrating the Feast of the Tabernacles. They needed a different day to celebrate the birth of the Messiah.
They didn’t see a need to replace a traditional Jewish feast day. They did not cease to be Jewish because they accepted that their Messiah had come. Acts of the Apostles 2:46
usccb.org/nab/bible/acts/acts2.htm#v46
For us Gentile Christians, we don’t celebrate the Jewish feasts because we aren’t Jewish!
We celebrate the Christian Feasts. Joy to the World, the LORD HAS COME!
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Rolltide
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So what you’re saying is that African-Americans selected the date of this holiday NOT because they were trying to become Christian, but because the date was convenient. So… why can’t the reverse be true, with Christians selecting a date to celebrate the birth of Jesus out of convenience, NOT as a way to adopt paganism? In fact, if anything, it was an effort to SUPPLANT paganism!
If there’s one thing we’ve demonstrated REALLY well on this thread, it’s that there shouldn’t be any problem in going back to celebrating the birth of Jesus on the “original” date because there’s absolutely NO debate over the date that Jesus was born…
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ufamtobie
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The evidence against December 25th is much stronger than the evidence for it.
Hisalone,
So tell us all here, what date and month do you celebrate our Lord Jesus Christ Birth or do you even celebrate his birth? Hmmmmm!
By the way, it takes more than desire to become a saint, for many desire many things but if the work is done without trembling and fear,regarding Salvation/Saint, well the desire is just a desire with no fruit. Desire to be anything does not cut it.
As Philipians 2: 12 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation. 13 For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to his good will.
Ufam Tobie
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graceandglory
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I’m sorry. Sad for you. I hope you know that the apostles didn’t celebrate your birthday either, or the Independence of America as a nation.
In keeping with the tradition of God’s Chosen people, the Jews, they marked events in their history, of God’s goodness and faithfulness by celebrating with FEASTS. Christians are continuing in the traditions of God’s people. Our story didn’t end with the old covenant. It continued. Thus, the need for more feasts.
We are a feasting people. God knows that we human beings have that desire in our hearts. We like to celebrate. Perhaps its a prefigurement of the great feast that we will one day share together in heaven at the banqueting table of our Lord.
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Hisalone
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Im a NonDenom, who is Evangelical, Fundamental and Charismatic.
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Hisalone
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What is arrogant is to say you have the fullness of truth and that you cannot err.
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Hisalone
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Of course.
But its not like the early church would not know Jesus’actual birtday. In the 1st century it was not that important.
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graceandglory
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Not arrogant. Actually completely the opposite. It’s called HUMILITY. It’s coming to realize that it isn’t about what I feel or think to be right, but it’s about being submissive to the AUTHORITY of Christ’s Church to lead and guide me in faith and morals.
When you finally reallize that God’s truth isn’t relative, and it’s not up to you to figure out and understand all by yourself, you have made the first step toward humility.
"God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. "
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Hisalone
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I will Celebrate Christs birth with my family on December 25th it is when they celebrate it. If I had my own wife and kids then I would have a decision to make.Hisalone,
So tell us all here, what date and month do you celebrate our Lord Jesus Christ Birth or do you even celebrate his birth? Hmmmmm!
By the way, it takes more than desire to become a saint, for many desire many things but if the work is done without trembling and fear,regarding Salvation/Saint, well the desire is just a desire with no fruit. Desire to be anything does not cut it.
As Philipians 2: 12 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation. 13 For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to his good will.
Ufam Tobie
This thread has taught me something, while getting together my polemic I did discover evidence that December 25th was the day the Magi found Christ.
As you should know Merton is one of yours.
God has blessed us with all spiritual blessings and given us everything we need for sanctification and holiness the only thing left is our will/desire.
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LilyM
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So your church teaches you that it is wrong to celebrate the birth and incarnation of Christ (never mind the date, 25 December is every bit as likely to be right, and as wrong, as any other date)?
Your church teaches you that it is WRONG to set aside one day each year on which to specially and on purpose thank God, as a nation, for the many good things He has given you?
And you claim that these teachings are of Christ and His Apostles? Certainly Christ and the Apostles NEVER taught that it was wrong to celebrate Christ’s birthday or anyone else’s. On the contrary, the angels of heaven themselves, not to mention the shepherds and wise men, certainly celebrated His birth on that first Christmas, as we do each year (not having been present at the actual event
).Nor did they teach that it was wrong to have a celebration such as Thanksgiving. Again, the Old Testament is full of occasions, such as Passover itself, and Purim and the like, where the people of Israel celebrated annually the great things God had done for them and given them.
Point me to the scriptural verses where celebration of birthdays or national days of thanksgiving are condemned - either by Christ, His Apostles or anyone else!
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