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SalamKhan
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The Prophets of the Old Testament employed symbols & parables, so did Jesus in the New Testament.Hidden meanings…
Hence foolishness…
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George720
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Is it once, twice, thirty, a hundred thirty times?The Arabic word for love.
It is a simple question that does not require an online link…
Would you please just answer the question?
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George720
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Indeed so, which is why we do not move from initial obscurity to pretended clarity…Hidden meanings…
Hence foolishness…
You started out in great and foolish obscurity, you see…
With Jalal’s obscure quote…
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SalamKhan
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Are you unable to count? The root word appears 95 times, but scroll down to see whatever context you want it in.Would you please just answer the question?
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SalamKhan
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Jesus literally employs a parable about reaping & harvesting. Call him foolish, why don’t you?Indeed so, which is why we do not move from initial obscurity to pretended clarity…
Just because you a unable to understand, does not make wisdom foolish.
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George720
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Forgive me for not wanting to visit the site…The root word appears 95 times,
but scroll down to see whatever context you want it in.
I mean, if I ask the question, I should have the decency to look at the answer, yes?
So I went there, and the English word “love” in translation does not always appear, even though it does appear, at least in the root form, in the Arabic - hababa… It looked like 53 times… So thank you for the reference - That is a pretty extensive translation site for the Quran…
So in the present indicative 3rd person singular does the Quran ever write that God loves man?
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George720
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Actually, it is about sowing and reaping, saying that as one sows, so also shall one reap… That forms a summary of the teachings of loving God and neighbored doing good… And the counterparts of not so doing…Jesus literally employs a parable about reaping & harvesting.
The conversation does not begin with sowing and reaping, except it is well known in agricultural cultures…
Jalal does not seem to have such a purpose…
He did not begin with obscurity…Call him foolish, why don’t you?
He may be wise to those who agree with him, but to someone like me he sounds like gibberish and filled with guile… His words seem tightly crafted and not seeking clarification in his readers, but rather presuming it…Just because you a unable to understand, does not make wisdom foolish.
Just my take - I mean, you did ask…
My take and $5 will get you no change back at Starbuck’s!
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George720
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Christianity teaches that the harvest occurs in this life in an earnest…Without death, we would be like a field that never gets reaped & harvested.
But it only occurs when we turn from this life to God…
We regard death as the failure of Adam in us, and the final result of it…
Death is our enemy…
Jalal seems to see it as his friend…
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SalamKhan
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What obscurity? Try reading it yourself:He did not begin with obscurity…
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SalamKhan
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The Qur’an repeatedly says that God loves the righteous.does the Quran ever write that God loves man?
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George720
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He did not begin with obscurity…Thank-you…What obscurity? Try reading it yourself:
Starting from the end of that beautiful poem one cannot infer the beginning…
But emerging from the beginning the end forms the jewell…
The end accounts the beginning, you see…
Without the beginning, it is but pretense…
Thank-you for sharing this lovely work…
So now I am in your debt…
May I soon return your kindness…
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George720
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Another difference…The Qur’an repeatedly says that God loves the righteous.
The Christian God loves sinners…
We are all sinners…
Because we carry death in us…
And all die…
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George720
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Is this what you mean by DECREE death?Why did God decree Death?
[Gen 2:17]
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
thou shalt not eat of it:
for in the day that thou eatest thereof
thou shalt surely die.
For this sounds more like a warning than a decree…
How do you understand the term “decree”?
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SalamKhan
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He willed that it should exist. In a previous comment, I replied to someone that vegetation and animals preceded humanity, and they perished. Death is part of this world and not a punishment.How do you understand the term “decree”?
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George720
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If you believe Genesis, this world is fallen…Death is part of this world and not a punishment.
Death came into the cosmos through Adam’s fall…
Death is a consequence of turning from God…
Are you arguing that God decreed that His creation should turn away from Him?
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SalamKhan
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Adam was in paradise, where there was no death, and then was sent to earth, where there is death.If you believe Genesis, this world is fallen…
Death came into the cosmos through Adam’s fall…
It was God’s decree that humanity should be on earth (Genesis 1:27-28, & Surah 2:30), and so Adam being sent to earth was not punishment.Are you arguing that God decreed that His creation should turn away from Him?
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George720
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Are you saying that the Garden of Eden was NOT on earth???Adam
was in paradise, where there was no death, and
then was sent to earth, where there is death.
Do you not believe Genesis?
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SalamKhan
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Of course it was not. Unless you can demonstrate its location here on earth…Are you saying that the Garden of Eden was NOT on earth???
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George720
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Do you believe Genesis?Are you saying that the Garden of Eden was NOT on earth???
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