Why do Christians reject the testimony of Alien Abduction victims?

[Elf01]

On the simplest level: because it’s recounted as truth in the Bible, which is the Word of God.

Why do we believe that the Bible is the word of God?

Personally I would, despite @AgnosticBoy’s, claim expect some verifiable evidence of alien abductions.

The witnesses to the Resurrection, being willing to die rather than retract their claims gives them credibility that I don’t think abduction claims have (though to be fair, I would not expect an abduction victim to be willing to die, however, undergoing psychiatric treatment may convince me that they genuinely believe their claim and at that point I would be more inclined to believe that something may have happened).

 

[Gorgias]

The only thing that you have made clear is that you trust the claims of Christianity based on anecdotal evidence, but you don’t trust the claims of those who report UFO phenomena regardless of any non-scientific evidence.

No… I trust the claims of Christianity based on their origin with God. Whether those claims are ‘anecdotal’ or not is immaterial.

Any other claims – especially of potentially verifiable physical phenomena – don’t get the same treatment as claims I believe come from God.

 

[phil19034]

The only thing that you have made clear is that you trust the claims of Christianity based on anecdotal evidence, but you don’t trust the claims of those who report UFO phenomena regardless of any non-scientific evidence.

Most Christians accept the claims of Christianity based on philosophical evidence, not scientific.

There is no scientific evidence to prove or disprove God exists. There is only philosophical evidence.

There is also no scientific evidence to prove aliens exist and/or have been visiting Earth. There is also no scientific evidence that the light barer can be broken.

However, there is some philosophical and “pseudo-scientific” evidence.

Belief in both God and aliens visiting earth are both super-natural beliefs, because at this time, they cannot be proven scientifically.

However, there are some major differences between belief in God vs believe in alien abductions.

1. There are more philosophical arguments and evidence for the existence of God. St. Thomas Aquinas taught that there are 5 ways to philosophical prove the existence of God. But to the best of my knowledge, there are 2 or 3 philosophical arguments for the existence of life outside earth.
   Five Ways (Aquinas) - Wikipedia
   https://medium.com/@barryvacker/anc...gs-claim-that-philosophy-is-dead-7a06e4a28fbe
   Fermi paradox - Wikipedia

1. In order to believe in alien abductions, you have to first accept the philosophical evidence that intelligent alien life exists. But then, you also have to accept, with no scientific evidence (and little to no philosophical evidence) that there is not only way around Special Relativity, but also that an alien intelligence figured it out, found earth, and visited.

NOW - personally, I believe that alien abductions are possible, but I haven’t seen enough evidence to say they are true. I believe people think they are true, but I have yet to see enough evidence to 100% believe they are true. But, I do believe it’s possible and I also believe it’s possible that they might be demonic instead.

I pray this helps.

God bless

 

[AgnosticBoy]

Fair enough. And, since you agree that ‘aliens’ are natural phenomena – and therefore, are in the realm of empirical, scientific measurement – then we should deal with them as we deal with everything that is in that realm, but is unencountered / unmeasured: we stop making claims about them. Until we have physical evidence of physical phenomena – or mathematical theories about them – we do not make unsupportable claims. That’s where the notion of ‘aliens’ falls right now.

If your claim is to remain agnostic on the issue, then I agree. However, the title of the thread says “REJECT”, as in many Christians consider alien abductions to be FALSE or DECEPTION from the Devil. This is precisely the attitude of many (not all) Christians towards other religions, and I’m sure alien abductions seen in the same light. Personally, I don’t consider an experience of some natural phenomenon false just because I don’t have a scientist standing next to me to document/measure/test, etc. I accept it to a degree, and the more or better evidence I get, the more my certainty increases.

 

[BroIgnatius]

This thread is out-of-control, and off-topic, which I predicted and warned against. Ah well.

 

[MonteRCMS]

What we seem to know about aerial performance of alien spaceships might be 50 or 100 years behind. Turns out what USED to be alien spaceships were mylar espionage balloons and then A-12 / SR-71 spy flights. What might the latest contrails / comtrails be?

But seriously, folks, what religious messages do the alien abduction victims bring back to us?

 

[TheHolyTrinity]

I do not feel that Christian’s rejects a person who has a traumatic experience. Most of which is deeply disturbing and evokes terror in both the abductee and those listening to their experience. Most abductees go one to develope psychic and/or spiritual dimensions in which they did not have before and do not seek assistance from the Church.

One cannot escape the conclusion that Aliens are demons, created by demonic power. In the first place, they look like demons. They appear to be material creatures and yet have a transparent character. Fallen Angels are corrupt and degenerate, they thrive on the human passions—feed on them.

• Firstly there is their physical examination of abductees, universal sexual exploitation of their captives by alien abductors.
• Secondly the aliens inflict pain on their victims and frequently scar them both physically and emotionally.
• Thirdly there is often a spiritual shift in those who have experienced alien abduction.

If these aliens are not demons, how is it that beings so advanced that they can achieve space travel cannot prevent pain and scarring during routine physical examinations? It is not pain which the aliens cannot control, but their demonic passion for inflicting the same on mankind. Moreover, at least initially, abductees experience terror and fright in the presence of their alien abductors.

The spiritual effects of abductees’ contacts with aliens, as we have pointed out, are anti-Christian. Abductees are drawn away from the universal teachings of Christianity and towards the demonic delusion that underlies modern New Age philosophies.

Video: ALIENS ARE DEMONS. MISSION: Hide Flat Earth

So you think the ‘Alien Greys’ are from another planet maybe? Think again… Everything you thought you knew about ‘them’ is wrong… YES, these ‘Aliens’ ARE real… very, VERY real, but they are NOT what you think they are.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G4PbDX5fKg

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[Gorgias]

This thread is out-of-control, and off-topic, which I predicted and warned against. Ah well.

Umm… welcome to CAF…?

 

[Roseeurekacross]

you cant compare beyonce to an alien or demon. thats uncharitable. and slanderous. i had to flag that.

 

[Gorgias]

If your claim is to remain agnostic on the issue, then I agree. However, the title of the thread says “REJECT”, as in many Christians consider alien abductions to be FALSE or DECEPTION from the Devil.

Nah… I entered into the conversation with gusto, at your claim that there was some sort of “double standard”; I disagree with that statement.

With respect to the question of “rejection”, I’ll continue to hold to my original claim: Christians reject it for the same reason that non-Christians do – lack of evidence.

However, you do make an interesting observation: there are Christians who believe the notion of the alien phenomenon is a deception stemming from the Devil. IMHO, I’m guessing that these are the same folks who believe in young-earth-creationism and fundamentalist Scriptural literalism. If they don’t see it there, in the Bible, then it’s from the devil!