Why do Mormons claim to be Christians?

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Stephen168,
Anyone who reads english as a first language would see I was responding to what was written. Not sure how you divined he was referencing beliefs and not actions, nor how that changes what I posted.

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Theo520 said:
Anyone who reads english as a first language would see I was responding to what written. Not sure how you divined he was referencing beliefs and not actions, nor how that changes what I posted.
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I’m glad you agree that Mormons are not Christian according to the teaching of the Catholic Church.
 
I discovered Christ prior to becoming a Latter Day Saint. It has increased greatly in the years since I converted from Catholicism.

I recognize that our critics will always say we are not Christian. That is unfortunate. Their agenda is show us “into something we are not”.
 
Sad that you have left Christ and gone into apostasy for a false and evil prophet. I pray God will have mercy on your soul.
 
Mormons aren’t Christians according to the teachings of many Protestant churches either.
 
CourtingTex said:
I discovered Christ prior to becoming a Latter Day Saint. It has increased greatly in the years since I converted from Catholicism.
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What made you leave Catholicism?
CourtingTex said:
I recognize that our critics will always say we are not Christian. That is unfortunate. Their agenda is show us “into something we are not”.
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We aren’t critics. We’re informed observers who don’t view your church, religion and teachings through rose colored glasses.
 
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gazelam:
Puh-lease, the whole purpose of this thread is to proselytize Latter-day Saints.
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And the whole purpose of you being here is to troll a Catholic forum.
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I expect, just as a select group of Mormons did on the Amazon Christianity forum, the purpose of the Mormons who post here in the Non-Catholic Religions section of this website, is to promote and defend their religion, which they, of course, have the right to do. I don’t think they were counting on us being as informed about it as we are tho.
 
Stephen168 said:
Verse 4 is consistent with 1 thru 6 in a proper understanding of the Trinity.
Joseph Smith started out as a trinitarian as he wrote in the 1830 version of the Book of Mormon. The most obvious trinitarian verses were removed as Joseph Smith’s beliefs in the nature of God changed,
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Please provide a generally accepted definition of the Trinity that allows for the Father to be the Son at the same time. Thanks in advance.
 
Lemuel said:
And the whole purpose of you being here is to troll a Catholic forum.
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My understanding is that this is a debate forum. It’s not going to be much of a debate if only one side shows up. If the rules or nature of this forum has changed I’m interested in knowing what the new rules are.
 
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Bearing your testimony is against forum rules because it is proselytizing.
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Puh-lease, the whole purpose of this thread is to proselytize Latter-day Saints.
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Debating and proselytizing are not the same thing. Mormons bear their testimony to non-Mormons, to proselytize. It’s also a form of putting ones fingers in their ears and going lalalalalalalala. Testimony bearing is not debating.
 
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If your intention, since you claim you are not a critic, is to bring “your version” of what my church believes, you can do just that. Does not mean that members like me will not dispute your claims as false, understanding all of you are former members or those who have never been members “supposely bringing out the real truth of my church”. You will always be wrong to folks such as myself.

As for why I left Catholicism, it was not the true church of Jesus Christ and wanted the truth years ago.
 
What about the Catholic Church made you feel that it wasn’t the true church of Jesus Christ, Courting Tex? And what made you believe that the church you currently belong to is? Could you please provide Biblical support for your reasons for belonging to the Mormon church?

As for your claim that I am bringing my version of what your church believes, it isn’t my version. Everything I know about your church’s beliefs came from Mormons who are still members of your church or from the writings of Mormons which can easily be found online on your church’s official websites.

It intrigues me that you, like the Mormons I encountered on the now defunct Amazon discussion forums, are so defensive about your beliefs. Is this defensive mechanism common to all Mormons or just those who don’t appreciate hearing the truth from outsiders to your chosen religion?
 
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To response to you, I provided a list of characteristics of the true church some weeks ago so I am not going to repeat that here ---- search on the forums. That list the Catholic church was not anywhere close to the Bible scriptures I cited weeks ago. As I recall, when I provided this list, a lot of you did not agree with how the Catholic church was very much lacking.

As for those who are still members, their claims should be going to church headquarters and responded to by the Brethren. The Brethren have not responded because they view it as I do ---- this a continuous effort by those who seek to the church to “come clean” about our doctrine and history. The church’s official websites are correct, sadly that is not good enough for these members, former members and those who have never been members at all.

You can continue to want the church to “come clean”, nonetheless the official websites are correct.
 
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It intrigues me that you, like the Mormons I encountered on the now defunct Amazon discussion forums, are so defensive about your beliefs. Is this defensive mechanism common to all Mormons or just those who don’t appreciate hearing the truth from outsiders to your chosen religion?
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I was a Mormon for decades. Mormons are programmed to not read or study from sources that conflict with what they are spoon fed to believe. It’s all about “when the prophet has spoken, the debate is over” kind of stuff. The problem is that the most damning evidence against the Mormon church comes from their own libraries and most Mormons won’t even read that. I have been repeatedly attacked for my “claims” against the Mormon church when most of what I “claim” is merely repeating what comes from their own sources.

Bottom line, I do believe that most Mormons are afraid to study their own history unless it’s from a sanitized source such as FAIR. A lot of them suffer from cognitive dissonance, just as I did when I was a member and fierce apologist of their faith. The Internet, thankfully, is punching a lot of holes in the hull of their ship. Conversion rates in the west are stagnating. Conversion rates in places like Africa, where very few of them even know about or own, let alone read the BOM, or know anything about the Mormons previous history of racism, is growing at a healthy rate.
 
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CourtingTex said:
You can continue to want the church to “come clean”, nonetheless the official websites are correct.
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I seriously doubt that anyone expects the Church to come clean. That would be the end to their house of cards. They won’t do it.

But what you said …

It’s like someone who is interested in buying a Ford truck and they are told that the only research they are allowed to do must be from the official Ford website.

And amazingly, the hoax manages to still work …
 
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