Why do Muslims believe that the Modern New Testament is corrupted?

[R_not]

Muhamamd acted on the advice / teachings of Jesus who said “Those who kill by the sword will be killed by the sword” So it was permitted to Muhammad to retaliate with the sword whenhe was attacked by the christian kings forces.

This is certainly a stretch - so this is why mohammed was a rapist, enslaver, thief, liar, torturer, and a murderer of so many?

And this is what you follow? I do believe those men are dead. When are the muslims going to realize that and stop their jihad? And stop their kidnapping, enslaving, lying, torturing, and murder of so many that don’t even have anything to do with some guys - you say - attacked mohammed/

I think that it is all an excuse, just as blaming the West, blaming the Jews, blaming the Christians, blaming everyone else for what they do while taking no responsibility for their own poor behavior as an umma.

 

[planten]

This is certainly a stretch - so this is why mohammed was a rapist, enslaver, thief, liar, torturer, and a murderer of so many?

And this is what you follow? I do believe those men are dead. When are the muslims going to realize that and stop their jihad? And stop their kidnapping, enslaving, lying, torturing, and murder of so many that don’t even have anything to do with some guys - you say - attacked mohammed/

I think that it is all an excuse, just as blaming the West, blaming the Jews, blaming the Christians, blaming everyone else for what they do while taking no responsibility for their own poor behavior as an umma.

**Please remember the Jihad carried out by the christian missionaries under the cover of the christian governments for the last two hundred years in Afrika and Asia. They almost captured every country. Do you remember that?

Would you call that a Jihad too? A jihad of the christians??. Because the christian missionaries supported that and started working under the cover of their governments to convert people in India and far east.**

 

[planten]

**If you blame the Muslims on whom war was forced, then blame the christians too who went all over the world without any reason except to exploit and plunder the wealth of those nations. If you blame the Muslims then please blame the christians too.

That is why I had said that do not blame others for anything for which you are also guilty. Do unto others as you would like to be done to yourself. Please look back to the recent 200 year old history of the world.

Now coming to the topic, We Muslims believe that New testament is corrupt because:

1. It is written in our book that the men corrupted the teachings of Jesus.
2. If there was no Quran then no one would have known Zakariya and John the baptist and Jesus as the prophets (genuine men of God). The same book is highlighting their good teachings and the same book is telling that the christians lost the message after getting it.
3. We read the bible NT and we see clear discrepancy in the actual teachings of Jesus and the present day practice of the christians.

So there are proofs available. Another important proof is that the bible is being edited, modernised daily. Is that not enough proof of the corruption ! Man made book is being improved by men daily to suit the purpose of the churchmen.
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[swariffin]

**If you blame the Muslims on whom war was forced, then blame the christians too who went all over the world without any reason except to exploit and plunder the wealth of those nations. If you blame the Muslims then please blame the christians too.

That is why I had said that do not blame others for anything for which you are also guilty. Do unto others as you would like to be done to yourself. Please look back to the recent 200 year old history of the world.

Now coming to the topic, We Muslims believe that New testament is corrupt because:

1. It is written in our book that the men corrupted the teachings of Jesus.
2. If there was no Quran then no one would have known Zakariya and John the baptist and Jesus as the prophets (genuine men of God). The same book is highlighting their good teachings and the same book is telling that the christians lost the message after getting it.
3. We read the bible NT and we see clear discrepancy in the actual teachings of Jesus and the present day practice of the christians.

So there are proofs available. Another important proof is that the bible is being edited, modernised daily. Is that not enough proof of the corruption ! Man made book is being improved by men daily to suit the purpose of the churchmen.
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Dear Planten,

Forget about the wars. I agree with you that there no such thing about Holywars. All wars were and are wrong.

1. Everybody including you can write whatever he/she want. Right of wrong is another issue. Everybody can claim to receive Jibril’s words, right or wrong is another issue. Why should I look any justification of the bible from Quran? It really does not make any sense.
2. The bible was in its fully cannonized version already in year 351 AD, while Quran and Muhammad start the period aroung 600 AD. The number 600 is indeed larger than 351, but it does not mean that 600 comes earlier. This is another history a la Islam. Before the bible was in its form like you know, the writing of Matthew, Mark were written in the 70’s AD. Perhaps in Quran the bigger the number the earlier it comes. In this case, I don’t blame you.
3. If you REALLY read the bible, you will get the correct teaching of Jesus. Since you don’t, I don’t think that you have read any bible at all. Your claim that Jesus will enforced the law of Thorah or will lead the rebel against the Roman but unable to do so, is a clear proof that you read the wrong bible.

If you read the wrong source as Muhammad did about Christianity, then your conclusion about Christianity is highly questionable. If you want to know about Christianity, get the source from Christian sources, not from the Quran.

The Quran will ONLY gives you Islamic religion. There will be nothing such as Christianity a la Quran or Buddhism a la Quran or another religion a la Quran. Quran is for Muslims like you only. The truth of Quran is for yours only.

The bible has many translations, but the original version in Hebrew and Greek will be used should there is a dispute about theology. No Christian theologist will use English/German/Arabic/ Other translation of the bible when they discuss the issue about Christian theology. If you don’t know about this, it means you know nothing about Christianity.

Being translated is not a proof that the bible is corrupted. It is a clear proof that Christianity if for all people of the world. Not being able to be translated to another language shows that Quran, Islam and Muhammad is for the ARAB people ONLY, not for the world.

 

[inJESUS]

Now coming to the topic, We Muslims believe that New testament is corrupt because:

because Muhammad taught you that God lies.

Here is a very simple question for you Planten,

I am a very simple, average human being who reads in the Bible a thousand verse about how God is faithful to His words and promises and how His word stands for ever, all over OT and NT.

What should i tell the Allah at judgment day? "sorry Allah you previously said a thousand time that your word stand for ever and i believed you… sorry Allah for having believed you, i didn’t know you were joking". Is that what should i reply to the deity you are preaching ?
Simple question i guess and the answer will either reflect a serious God or a child like lying deity.

 

[R_not]

**Please remember the Jihad carried out by the christian missionaries under the cover of the christian governments for the last two hundred years in Afrika and Asia. They almost captured every country. Do you remember that?

Would you call that a Jihad too? A jihad of the christians??. Because the christian missionaries supported that and started working under the cover of their governments to convert people in India and far east.**

Huh?! What the heck are you talking about? Giving food and an education to them is a jihad?! you compare that to the massive rapes of the children, and massive slaughter that muslim do?

So, conversion is evil to you? If that is the case then why are you trying to convert us if you consider conversion evil?

 

[planten]

because Muhammad taught you that God lies.

, all over OT and NT.

What should i tell the Allah at judgment day? "sorry Allah you previously said a thousand time that your word stand for ever and i believed you… sorry Allah for having believed you, i didn’t know you were joking". Is that what should i reply to the deity you are preaching ?
Simple question i guess and the answer will either reflect a serious God or a child like lying deity.

** You have mentioned OT yourself. Please read genesis in the bible OT about the word “Forever”. God promised the holy land to the children of Abraham “Forever”. He made a covenant “forever” for his seed i.e. the circumcision. That was “forever”. Now you please tell me why the holy land was taken away fromt he children of Jacob for the last 1400 years?

Was that wrong or God forgot? What happened? And what did you people do the covenant of Abraham with God forever. Did you forget it and denied it or what went wrong there with the church teachings?

WE Muslims do not believe that God forgot anything. His promise to Abraham was (and is) fulfilled 100%. His covenant (of circumcision) still stands as it stood in the time of Jesus and his disciples. More in my next post…
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[planten]

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Continued…
Matthew 17: (Bible gateway)
6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an **everlasting covenant ****between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an **everlasting possession **to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."

9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

Please read the word everlasting in the bible passage above and answer my question which I aske din my last post. Thanks. God does not forget, nor sleep nor gets tired… His promise never fails. That is the belief as per Quran.

 

[Angelos]

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Now coming to the topic, We Muslims believe that New testament is corrupt because:

1. It is written in our book that the men corrupted the teachings of Jesus.
2. If there was no Quran then no one would have known Zakariya and John the baptist and Jesus as the prophets (genuine men of God). The same book is highlighting their good teachings and the same book is telling that the christians lost the message after getting it.
3. We read the bible NT and we see clear discrepancy in the actual teachings of Jesus and the present day practice of the christians.

So there are proofs available. Another important proof is that the bible is being edited, modernised daily. Is that not enough proof of the corruption ! Man made book is being improved by men daily to suit the purpose of the churchmen.
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1) The supposed corruption of the New Testament or of Jesus’ teachings is but a conventional Islamic allegation refuted by many verses in the Koran! Actually, the Koran in Surah 5 asks Christians to judge by the Gospel. Muslims, however, always distort their scripture by saying that the Koran endorses the so-called textual corruption of the former revelations.

2) This is a ridiculous argument! The stories about Zacchariah, John the Baptist, and Jesus had already been recorded in the New Testament prior to the fabrication of the Islamic scripture. Besides, what the Koran teaches about these figures is incomplete and vague.

3) The alleged discrepancies between Jesus’ teachings in the Bible and Christian practice of those teachings can never prove the traditional distortion theory, for the starting point of your argument is fallacious: practice and theory are essentially different and variations in the former does not entail the distortion of the latter. (You should start studying logic)

How editions and modernizations can affect the authenticity of the original text is a mystery to me as well as to all rational people! More, the Koran is edited and re-interpreted everyday by Muslim scholars who bend the text to their personal desires so as to conceal its mistakes.

 

[Angelos]

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Continued…
Matthew 17: (Bible gateway)
6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an **everlasting covenant ****between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an **everlasting possession **to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."

9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

Please read the word everlasting in the bible passage above and answer my question which I aske din my last post. Thanks. God does not forget, nor sleep nor gets tired… His promise never fails. That is the belief as per Quran.

Once more, you are reading into the Old Testament what is NOT there!

The Book of Genesis says that GOD made an everlasting covenant with Abraham: This is TRUE! What is wrong with the meaning of the word everlasting in this text? The covenant is an everlasting one although Abraham died! You mean this covenant was abolished when Abraham died?

The promise of the Holy Land is an eternal one too! That land always belongs to Abraham’s descendants in God’s sight. Only God gave the Holy Land ONLY to Abraham’s descendants. Although Israel was invaded by different kingdoms and her people were banished, this did not change the fact that God had eternally given the land to Abraham’s seed.

 

[inJESUS]

inJESUS;3744108:

** You have mentioned OT yourself. Please read genesis in the bible OT about the word “Forever”. God promised the holy land to the children of Abraham “Forever”. He made a covenant “forever” for his seed i.e. the circumcision. That was “forever”. Now you please tell me why the holy land was taken away fromt he children of Jacob for the last 1400 years?

this is irrelevent and whatever you mentioned are not “changed” or forgotten as you said, neither does the NT say it so you are putting assumptions not found in neither OT nor NT.

Am asking if God was “joking” when He says His Word stands for ever and you obviously were taught by your prophet that God lies ( astaghfirullah!).

As to the circumcision, it was a sign of a covenant, not the covenant…the covenant is still there, and salvation is still there, under the Messianic covenant.

since you believe circumcision is a covenant (strange indeed), why then don’t you circumcize your males on the 8th day as per the “covenant”? who is changing things?

 

[R_not]

inJESUS;3744108:

** You have mentioned OT yourself. Please read genesis in the bible OT about the word “Forever”. God promised the holy land to the children of Abraham “Forever”. He made a covenant “forever” for his seed i.e. the circumcision. That was “forever”. Now you please tell me why the holy land was taken away fromt he children of Jacob for the last 1400 years?

The problem with your thesis is that islam, or muslims, are not the ones that God promised anything to. It was the Jews. I know you cringe with that - but it is the truth.

mohammed distorted the Bible for his needs to muslims. There is no tie between islam and the other two religions, Judaism and Christianity. This is the root of your whole thinking on this subject.

mohammed was a pagan and islam is taken after that pagan religion with some distorted stories of the Bible thrown in. allah is fashioned after a pagan moon god called al-ilah. One of many of the gods of mohammed’s religion. There was a statue of it on the kabaa and this is why muslims run around a rock, spit, snort, throw rocks and run to another rock. There is nothing of a rock in the other two religions - or al-ilah. The god of islam is all about revenge, death, chaos and subjugation. This is not the God of Abraham.

at one point, in the koran, said to worship al-lat, al-uzza, and marat which are called the ‘daughters of allah’. sura 53:19-20
But now the verses are abrogated (which goes back to my older notes that the koran has two ‘versions’ that are combined in the koran (the book is confusing) because the Medina passages (the violent passages - the newer passages) abrogated the older Meccan passages (the older more peaceful passages).

the same pagans practiced the pilgrimage to the hajj, the fast of ramadan, running around the kabaa 7 times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down 2 hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out of the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.

mohammed command it - yusuf ali fn 214, pg78
islam adopted the rites, yusuf ali fn 223, pg80

Christians and Jews NEVER used a moon and stars as their symbol - the Arabs did though.

Hence islam is not an Abrahamic religion as they claim it is. It is only people who know nothing of mohammed, islam or al-ilah that say such things.

bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm

But, I am also wise enough to know that no matter what is discussed on these threads the muslims will continue to think that the koran, mohammed and allah are valid, and will continue to support those who are killing to land grab what the israelis have.

Here is a popular saying ‘First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday’ c4rpme.org/bin/articles.cgi?Cat=christians&Subcat=cmr&ID=69

Muslim’s stated goal to take us over by 2050
jihadwatch.org/archives/018733.php

But, I read that and realize that they are ‘working on Sunday’ right now on people’s around this globe - and have been for 1400 years.

 

[R_not]

When muslims tell us so often about the peaceful passages in the koran they do not mention that those passages were replaced by the violent passages.

If they want to tell us that is not so that means that islam is a polytheistic, pagan religion since some of those abrogated passages include other goddesses (that were of mohammed’s pagan religion).

at one point, in the koran, said to worship al-lat, al-uzza, and marat which are called the ‘daughters of allah’. sura 53:19-20
But now the verses are abrogated (which goes back to my older notes that the koran has two ‘versions’ that are combined in the koran (the book is confusing) because the Medina passages (the violent passages - the newer passages) abrogated the older Meccan passages (the older more peaceful passages).

I am including that paragraph from another post, but it proves the point that islam is not consistent with its teachings. It seemed that al-ilah changed its mind quite often - well, ok, mohammed changed his mind for al-ilah quite often! One time al-ilah was peaceful then it gets all perturbed and changes its mind and becomes pretty violent. So, this all-knowing god is rather a moody, changeable god.

 

[planten]

planten;3748260:

inJESUS;3744108:

The problem with your thesis is that islam, or muslims, are not the ones that God promised anything to. It was the Jews. I know you cringe with that - but it is the truth.

mohammed distorted the Bible for his needs to muslims. There is no tie between islam and the other two religions, Judaism and Christianity. This is the root of your whole thinking on this subject.

**mohammed was a pagan and islam is taken after that pagan religion with some distorted stories of the Bible thrown in. allah is fashioned after a pagan moon god **

** Muhammad was not a pagan. His ancestors were pagans. But he removed all idol worship from Arabia after much struggle. He broke the idols (360 of them) which were in the sacred house of worship in Makkah. So he achieved a great victory by defeating the pagans.

your Jesus could not do anything. But if ever he did something good, you lost it all because the early christians went to live with the pagan greeks and adopted the Trinity from there. The word Jesus is Greek and so is Christ (greek) And the greek were the greatest pagans worshipping their gods of beauty and god of love and god of signals.

Then you had the sun worship (Sun Day) and Moon worship (Moon day). You have nothing good in you from Jesus. You are only using the name of Jesus for some special purpose but there is nothing of the like of Jesus in you.**

 

[R_not]

R_not;3748414:

planten;3748260:

** Muhammad was not a pagan. His ancestors were pagans. But he removed all idol worship from Arabia after much struggle. He broke the idols (360 of them) which were in the sacred house of worship in Makkah. So he achieved a great victory by defeating the pagans.

your Jesus could not do anything. But if ever he did something good, you lost it all because the early christians went to live with the pagan greeks and adopted the Trinity from there. The word Jesus is Greek and so is Christ (greek) And the greek were the greatest pagans worshipping their gods of beauty and god of love and god of signals.

Then you had the sun worship (Sun Day) and Moon worship (Moon day). You have nothing good in you from Jesus. You are only using the name of Jesus for some special purpose but there is nothing of the like of Jesus in you.**

How can one argue with this sort of logic?!

‘My Jesus’ certainly did do good and it is all in the New Testament. He stopped stonings while mohammed sanctioned, he performed miracles and helped an innumerable number of people, and he left a legacy of peace and love. ‘Your mohammed’ - I know I don’t want him! - did a lot of evil and that is what he passed on to his followers - it is all in the koran and hadiths. He tortured and killed, enslaved, and he raped those slaves some of which were children and told his followers it is ok to make them pregnant, he and his followers were in innumerable razas (raids) and stole and killed innumerable numbers of peoples and then he got the bright idea of subjugating peoples so he could collect taxes (the jizya tax) from them.

As for mohammed being a pagan - he indeed was one and if you want to accept that or not goes back to my written words that no matter what we say - we are arguing to a group of people that does little reflection on their own so called ‘religion’. The koran is so full of holes that it is easy to prove how un-holy it is. that was sort of a play on words.

Your own koran has the passages that shows us that he and allah included the 3 goddesses - and then he and allah changed their minds.

bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm
Here is an excerpt from this article:
*Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah, the three daughters of Allah, had their sanctuaries in the land which later became the cradle of Islam. In a weak moment the monotheistic Muhammad was tempted to recognize these powerful deities of Makkah and al-Madinah and make a compromise in their favour, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said to have received the form now found in surah 53:19-20. Later theologians explained the case according to the principle of nasikh and mansukh, abrogating and abrogated verses, by means of which God revokes and alters the announcements of His will; this results in the cancellation of a verse and the substitution of another for it (Koran 2 :100). *

Yes, he did break the idols - and the abrogated koran (of which allah and mohammed couldn’t make their minds up) indicates that there was indeed an indication that mohammed almost included the three goddesses that was of his pagan religion.

Personally, he should have kept the pagan religion - it was much more peaceful and benign. What mohammed created was nothing but death and chaos. Before mohammed created islam the peoples of the area used to get along much better and their societies were advancing right along with others - after islam we see the stagnation and what the lack of freedom has done to these peoples in the Middle East. The stench of decay.

Muslims believe what they want to believe - for fear of death because if they question, or leave, islam/mohammed/allah - they are considered apostates and fatwas are issued against them.

 

[R_not]

R_not;3748414:

planten;3748260:

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Then you had the sun worship (Sun Day) and Moon worship (Moon day). You have nothing good in you from Jesus. You are only using the name of Jesus for some special purpose but there is nothing of the like of Jesus in you.**

Since you don’t like the truth you think that means that it is not Christ-like? Well, sorry - but God gave me a gift and I use that gift. I have researched islam for you all and make sure to tell the truth while the muslims on these threads are misleading us, or ‘misspeaking’. Something that I know is sanctioned in the koran - to mislead us as to what islam is all about (I paraphrase).

I don’t know what telling the truth has to do with not being Christ-like. Remember that Christianity doesn’t have the same rules and regulations that islam has - we are supposed to tell the truth and not be deceptive. It also doesn’t mean that we don’t love you all. I might not like you but you are a fellow human being and that is all I need. It is much more consideration that our fellow Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc are given at the hands of muslims around this globe. Those same jihadists that follow a koran and a prophet that tells them to do atrocities against their persons. That same koran that you are defending.

 

[inJESUS]

Planten,

you believe that both OT and NT are corrupt. Yet i am a simple human being reading in both that God’s Word cannot be corrupt.

When God says many times by many prophets and in many books that His Word cannot be corrupt, and when Jesus does the same , do you think it is wise to distrust God and insult His teachings?

what should i tell God when He asks me? sorry a man called Muhammad told me that you are not truthful? sorry God but since i want to believe the Quran, i have no option but to call you a liar ? ( God forbids).

If God allowed the corruption (which He does not), why then did He leave dozens of verses telling me that His Word does not get corrupt and yet 600 years after Jesus, He tells me to believe in a book that calls Him a liar? will God allow the corruption of hundreds of passages , but not the passages that say His Word cannot be corrupt ? what kind of a deity would that be? we are talking about God, the loving, but God the serious Judge…are you sure you are talking about the same deity when you portray him as a moody deity who wants to play with humanity by telling them his word cannot get corrupt on the tongues of dozens of prophets for thousands of years yet tells them later that his word was corrupt although He allowed the corrupt men to leave the teachings that his word does not ? seriously, is this a deity or a moody kid you are portraying?

 

[planten]

Planten,

you believe that both OT and NT are corrupt. Yet i am a simple human being reading in both that God’s Word cannot be corrupt.

When God says many times by many prophets and in many books that His Word cannot be corrupt, and when Jesus does the same , do you think it is wise to distrust God and insult His teachings?

**Yes the words of God cannot be corrupted. But where are the words of God? What you have in the bible NT, do you think they are the words of God? Then you have got a lot of explaining to do. Thanks to you for hoping for a word of God.

Then R_Not is saying that Jesus did many miracles. I do not believe R_Not because he says that Muhammad was evil. So I believe there is evil in some christians and they are only doing lip service to Jesus with their hatred for others. I may easily say that there was no miracle performed by Jesus according to the bible. I have the miracles of Jesus according to Quran. But I do not see any miracle according to the bible. There are some stories but they are not trustworthy, like turning water into wine etc.

Any one can claim such things even today**.

 

[Angelos]

Yes the words of God cannot be corrupted. But where are the words of God? What you have in the bible NT, do you think they are the words of God? Then you have got a lot of explaining to do. Thanks to you for hoping for a word of God..

I fail to follow your logic since you have recently started to contradict yourself very fequently and debunk your own theses.

If you believe that God’s words in the Gospel were replaced with human lies and false teachings and the original book was lost, how can you agree with us that God’s words cannot be corrupted

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Then R_Not is saying that Jesus did many miracles. I do not believe R_Not because he says that Muhammad was evil. So I believe there is evil in some christians and they are only doing lip service to Jesus with their hatred for others. I may easily say that there was no miracle performed by Jesus according to the bible. I have the miracles of Jesus according to Quran. But I do not see any miracle according to the bible. There are some stories but they are not trustworthy, like turning water into wine etc.

Any one can claim such things even today**.

You do not believe that Jesus performed miracles because a Christian considers Mohammad evil? You must be kidding us!

Jesus performed many miracles according to the New Testament:
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John 21:25** But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.

Please stop perverting and slandering our scripture!

Jesus’ miracles recorded in the Koran were taken from apocryphal Gospels, which had been written by Christian authors that wanted to imitate Evangelists and copy their original Gospels.

Peace to you dear Planten.

 

[Sam_777]

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John 21:25** But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself. I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.

Praise the King of Kings and Lord of Lords