Why do other Christians "hate" Catholics?

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Hi Hogwaump: I had not heard that one before.
Only in relation to the Jews. I find it amazing that those “Christians” who believe this are not aware that Christ died because we sinned, every single one of us. So yes, Catholics did kill Christ, along with everyone else who has lived and will live.
 
The earliest complete New Testament manuscripts in existence were *also *written “hundreds of years after the fact” in the fourth century. Even the earliest small fragments were not found to be any earlier than 150 AD. By your own criteria, the NT should be considered “made up history” as well.

The Epistle to the Romans was a snapshot of one, single moment in Paul’s life. What he alludes to in Romans is not a dissertation on the entire history of the Church in Rome.

I have provided historical evidence from many early church fathers that Peter founded the church at Rome. The ECF’s are just as credible as any other ancient source. Combined with the Catholic Church’s long-standing tradition that Peter started our Church, I have provided more than ample evidence that Peter founded the Catholic Church.

You have provided no credible evidence to back your personal opinion that the Church in Rome was started solely by “simple converts to Christianity from Jerusalem”
Thanks so glad you rebutted, but he seems to think he knows it all and he doesn’t.
 
Possibly you did not grow up in the heart of fundamentalism, the deep dark booger-woods of Appalachia? When simple folks start hating things they tend to all run together, I think. I’m not saying this of all fundamentalists but among the most willfully ignorant of them it seems they make little distinction between Jews and Catholics. It’s a lot easier to just hate them both collectively.
Hi Hpgwaump: You are correct, but I grow up during the red scare where anyone even remotely thought to be a commie was a pinko.
 
Only in relation to the Jews. I find it amazing that those “Christians” who believe this are not aware that Christ died because we sinned, every single one of us. So yes, Catholics did kill Christ, along with everyone else who has lived and will live.
Hi Sreve VHY: I thought and was taught that Christ died so that mankind could be again reunited with God and to open the gates of heaven that were closed by the sin of Adam &Eve. The perfect sacrifice.
 
Hi Hpgwaump: You are correct, but I grow up during the red scare where anyone even remotely thought to be a commie was a pinko.
Spina, that is perfectly analogous. Another festering unreasoned hatred, largely cultivated by the powers that be. My wife is from an Eastern Bloc country, formerly communist. Apparently the Russian puppeteers spread a rumor over there that we capitalists were in such dire straits that we were eating unwanted children. There truly is nothing new under this sun.
 
Hi Sreve VHY: I thought and was taught that Christ died so that mankind could be again reunited with God and to open the gates of heaven that were closed by the sin of Adam &Eve. The perfect sacrifice.
You were taught correctly. However the entire reason that we were separated from God in the first place was because of sin. Christ died for our sins so that we might be reunited with God.
 
You were taught correctly. However the entire reason that we were separated from God in the first place was because of sin. Christ died for our sins so that we might be reunited with God.
Hi Steve VH: exactly! More to the point, Christ died for our sins, but he had to raise from the dead or who would believe he was truly the Son of God?
 
Spina, that is perfectly analogous. Another festering unreasoned hatred, largely cultivated by the powers that be. My wife is from an Eastern Bloc country, formerly communist. Apparently the Russian puppeteers spread a rumor over there that we capitalists were in such dire straits that we were eating unwanted children. There truly is nothing new under this sun.
Hi Hogwaump: My parents on my Mothers side came from Russia and the Ukrane Joe Macarthy stared the red scare where everyone was a commie which means a pinko. Not easy to live with when one is bullied all the time because of one’s ethnic background, My Grandparents came here long before the Russian revolution of 1917.
 
Hi Steve VH: exactly! More to the point, Christ died for our sins, but he had to raise from the dead or who would believe he was truly the Son of God?
👍 No resurrection without the crucifixion and if Christ has not been raised our hope is in vain.
 
Welcome, Hogwaump!

I picked up on something you said…referring to a particular region in our country where you can find such anti-Catholic positions.

Even if you explain our faith to people who are on a certain level, it is just about impossible. Who they listen to are people who have experienced Protestant Evangelism, and now know something about the Catholic Church, or is one by now who can come back and explain things to them on their level.

I wish you a most hearty welcome to find out more about our faith here, and I hope it will be a satisfying experience to see how we believe. There is so much to being Catholic, you cannot learn it all in your own life time because there are so many members who have so much to share, primarily demonstrated in the lives of the saints as well as the highly educated here at CAF, those who were former popes and reading their actual teachings as well as helping you see how Catholics believe in greater depth.

God bless you!
 
Welcome, Hogwaump!

I picked up on something you said…referring to a particular region in our country where you can find such anti-Catholic positions.

Even if you explain our faith to people who are on a certain level, it is just about impossible. Who they listen to are people who have experienced Protestant Evangelism, and now know something about the Catholic Church, or is one by now who can come back and explain things to them on their level.

I wish you a most hearty welcome to find out more about our faith here, and I hope it will be a satisfying experience to see how we believe. There is so much to being Catholic, you cannot learn it all in your own life time because there are so many members who have so much to share, primarily demonstrated in the lives of the saints as well as the highly educated here at CAF, those who were former popes and reading their actual teachings as well as helping you see how Catholics believe in greater depth.

God bless you!
Hi Kathleen Gee: What an excellent post! Good for you for pointing that out.
 
What a gracious reference to me.

Can you tell me what it is exactly that I don’t know?
Ha! Things you don’t know could fill a book … if not two!

Granted, I haven’t really been following your conversation with CarolNoel. :o :cool:
 
Ha! Things you don’t know could fill a book … if not two!

Granted, I haven’t really been following your conversation with CarolNoel. :o :cool:
It’s true I don’t know much about geophysics, or Korean history, or organic chemistry.

I am talking about in the context of this discussion.
 
Viewpoint from another angle – I grew up in an fundamentalist holiness church, became a bit of a bible scholar out of self defense, abandoned that church as soon as I was old enough to know better, joined the wave of atheism that was trendy at the time. Now I am pushing 60 and realize that I know very little about anything.

I also dated a Catholic girl, to the expressed horror of both our families, so perhaps I had a better view of this up close. First I should say that the Catholic family was more tolerant and eventually accepted me, I think always with a conviction that I would convert eventually.

Personally I can get along with Catholicism far better than with fundamentalism. At least priests tend to actually read the Bible and try to understand it before they get up to talk about it publicly. A lot of what goes on in fundamentalism is somebody echoing something that somebody said, who was echoing something from somebody before him, and so on, ad nauseum.

There is a lot of misinformation about Catholics floating around. The number one complaint is that Catholics are not Christians because they pray to the Virgin Mary (or saints, take your pick) instead of Jesus/God. With all the Hail Marys everybody has heard from a distance or in the movies, I can understand their error. They know little else about Catholicism, except that it is bad for some nebulous reason, and there are censers and robes involved.

I have heard people refer to the practice of praying to saints, relics, statues or other depictions of saints or Mary, what have you, as a form of Idolatry – a very big no-no in fundamentalist thought.

The Pope is the Antichrist, a particularly ignorant claim.

There are others, but they all boil down to rationalizations to justify their prejudices. The bottom line is that early Protestants were willfully misinformed by people they trusted, people that they were taught were as infallible as the Church sees the Pope. It started with the king of England and the Anglican schism, and proceeded apace from there.

Some of the things we have been taught or “everybody knows” about Catholics will turn your stomach. They boil children for dinner. They sacrifice “real Christian” children (meaning their preferred flavor of Protestant) so they can use the blood in religious ceremonies. Plenty of true and not so true references to The Inquisition. All kinds of ignorant nonsense has been handed down generation after generation and accepted blindly. This was mostly by design, on the part of Anglican and Protestant powers, in an effort to sway people away from Catholicism.

I grew up thinking “papist” was a curse word, because of the way I heard it used. But I must say things have improved. The other day I heard one of my Holiness preacher cousins opine in a hushed whisper that a good Catholic probably could get into heaven after all. Mirabile visu!
Thanks for your thoughtful response!

I hope you learn a lot about the truths of Catholicism, and what she really proclaims, now that you are on the CAFs.
 
The Venerable and Most Reverend Fulton John Sheen once said:

“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”

That has been true in my experience.

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I disagree to some extent.
For one, its the Catholic who refer to other Christians as heretics or protestants. These terms were not friendly at their inception.
Then there were the inquisitions which resulted to may ‘heretics’ being tortured or even burnt alive and their properties confiscated.

However, there is an emergent view from the protestants that the Catholics have gone too far in introducing some teachings whose basis is questionable. Also by equating the sacred Traditions with the Word of God has not augured well and the rift is just widening.

The worry is that Christ the righteous judge will condemn one of the two as having wandered from the true teaching and made others to follow the same.
If the protestants will be on the wrong, then they will be thrown in hell.
If the Catholics will be on the wrong, the same will be done to them. Though the same Catholic teaching absolve their followers from hell through purgatory.
 
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