Why do people on CAF seem to think liberals are evil?

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That said, I can’t get over liberals claiming so much compassion for immigrants, refugees, LGBTQ people, the homeless, etc. But when a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, they defend sticking her on an exam table while her offspring gets sucked out of her instead of helping her overcome the obstacles - both individual and systemic- between her and having her baby.
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That’s not how any of it works. Of course the left wants to help mothers who choose to have their baby. To suggest otherwise is unfair.
 
With all due respect and love, I feel like we are arguing in circles and not hearing each other. For some Pro-Life as far as abortion goes is very high on the list, that does not mean gun violence is not on that list also. Even us pro 2nd Amendment supporters are against gun violence, especially when it comes to our children, we just all feel differently about the solution to that violence.

That being said that does not mean we think liberals are evil. There are liberals who post regularly on this message board. I know I love you all, you are my brothers and sisters in Christ. I feel pretty safe in saying that a lot of if not the majority of conservatives feel the same way. We believe what we believe regardless of what side of the political spectrum we set on and hopefully we learn from each other and respect each other, even if we disagree.

There is nothing wrong with civil debate and arguments as long as we don’t resort to personal attacks. I feel like while that may happen time to time with a very few on here it is in no way the norm or even the majority.

Have peace my friend we love you and in no way think you are evil. God Bless you.
 
I agree with bassmansteiny
So back to the question of why?
Because we need to board my boat, sail across the sea, and RESTORE THE HEART of Te-Fiti.

Aue, aue,
We set a course to find
A brand new island everywhere we row,
Aue, aue,
We keep our island in our mind
And when it’s time to find home,
We know the way.

Oops I burst into song. Sorry. Moana is life.
 
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I don’t necessarily agree with abortion completely. It’s how precious it’s treated as an issue even though it is more of a private matter.
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It isn’t a private matter when it involves the killing of another human being. Is killing one’s own children a private matter?

It involves slaughter on an industrial scale, 50 million little ones are killed worldwide every year. The amount of people killed by warfare annually is a tiny fraction of that number

1 million are killed by abortion in the USA each year. 1 million! And these are the most innocent, vulnerable human beings there are. It dwarfs other issues for the harm that it does.
 
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Fair enough. I’m not foolish or unamerican if I am for stricter gun control. Not saying you’ve accused me of such, a few feel that way. People who are for gun control are apparently control freaks.

It is going in circles.
 
I’m just thinking if you’re not okay with the government policing guns or restricting guns, why think it is the government’s place to police and put restrictions on what another chooses to do with their body?
 
That is the beautiful thing about our country. We can debate each other over the issues and still have respect for one another. Our country was founded on debate, those that wanted to stay with the King of England and those that wanted to start a new country. Debate and the blood sweat and tears of our soliders, sailors and marines (there was no air force at the time that is why I left them out but they apply to today). 😊

Love you and God Bless you.
 
It can come across on here that there is only way to act as Christian. That the conservative party is the Christian party and apparently they are correct on every issue. Some people have that attitude on here. Trump has been compared to Christ on some threads. Someone said they’d pray for antitrump people. Why?
 
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Don’t know but Trump is far from being Christ, so is Obama and you and me 😉

I see it from both sides of the political spectrum, on CAF I feel it is really minimal but on other message boards it is way out of control. One message board I frequent for my favorite rock band KISS, it is brutal on there. People attacking each other over politics from both sides of the aisle and over the band its self. You have the original 4 fans, fans of current line-up and those of the 80s/early90s. They fight over which is better and the other doesn’t matter. The fans of the other line-up don’t matter ect ect. Did not used to be that way on there. It used to be a brotherhood so to speak. Social Media has empowered people for both good and bad. The bad, people say negative things to others behind a keyboard that they would not say in person and do not fact check things before they quote or past on. It has always existed to some degree but has gotten worse. I just ignore the negative people, all you can do and focus on the good. There are a lot of good people on that board and this one. 😊😎
 
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I’ll agree to that. It leaves me wondering if there is a right or wrong. Everyone seems to have an opinion on what is good and what is bad. There is an idea that as Christians we would share the views on morality because we worship the same God.
 
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I’m just thinking if you’re not okay with the government policing guns or restricting guns, why think it is the government’s place to police and put restrictions on what another chooses to do with their body?
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There are certain things that people do with their bodies that the government restricts. For example, if someone chooses to use their body to punch someone in the nose, the government does something about it.

Those who want to restrict abortion, a group which includes people from many different religious groups as well as atheists, do not want to restrict what a woman does with her body. They want to restrict her from doing what she wants with someone else’s body, which happens to be temporarily housed with in her.
 
Because the unborn child has done nothing to hurt anyone and the criminal has committed some sort of heinous crime.

You seem to think that it is ok to kill the unborn child of a rapist but forbidding anyone to kill him.

How does that make sense?
 
That’s fair. Why do people get so bent over gun control? In the end of the day, a gun is a lethal weapon. I’m aware guns don’t kill people, people do. Isn’t the issue trying to restrict or limit access to guns from criminals or crazy people!
Perhaps I’m not so annoyed by antigun control. Maybe I’m annoyed by some, very few, who deny that guns are a lethal weapon, or that gun ownership shouldn’t carry certain responsibilities. Guns aren’t exactly a necessity, I don’t understand the anger
 
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I’m just thinking if you’re not okay with the government policing guns or restricting guns, why think it is the government’s place to police and put restrictions on what another chooses to do with their body?
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But its not what they do with their own body, its what they do to another’s body. Abortion involves the killing if another human being. And in the USA (where I am not from) 1 million living human beings are killed by abortion every year. 1 million lives taken every year in your country, let that sink in.

Now I am on the fence about your gun control issue (I think there does need to be a form of control) but I am not from the USA. But bad as it is that people are murdered with guns, how does that compare with 1 million killed by abortion?

Abortion is not just a procedure involving the woman, it involves killing another human (one who can feel pain from as early as 8 to 10 weeks). Trying to pretend it is just about the woman and her body is simply incorrect, there are two bodies involved and the one without a choice ends up getting killed.

Abortion is the deliberate act of killing another human, that is a fact. The fact that the human being killed is out of sight and out of mind and usually cannot scream (although late term abortions can) does not make the killing any less wrong.

People talk about how money is made from the deaths of others through tje arms trade, and that is true, but the numbers killed in warfare are tiny compated to the numbers killed by abortion. Abortion is big business.
 
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I don’t agree with what I’m about to state at all. Some people think that it is not right to force a woman to give birth to a child she didn’t even want to begin with. Some argue giving a child up to adoption is more traumatic than abortion.
 
Dismembered alive, arms cut off, then legs, then head, without any anaesthetic, while you can feel the pain or being allowed to live as an adopted child? What would you prefer for yourself?
 
I personally would never get an abortion. I want to understand people who choose to and why they don’t feel it is wrong. I understand why second and third trimesters are wrong.
 
What do you mean by embryo? What is the difference to you between an embryo and someone who should not be killed?
 
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