Why do people say Unity is good

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GaryTaylor said:
TEPO you may seeing this better because of the water issues in Calif. Could be the natural process of the earth and when we are not in balance the natural extermination to statistically maintain is probably in effect.

Hard to imagine no water and oil.
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Well, we’ve got oil. We’re just saving it for the Chinese. In the meantime we just keep importing from the East.
 
Charlemagne_III said:
Our first confederation after the Revolution failed because it left the states too weak to act in a strong way with a national government. John Adams was told this by a British profiteer who delighted in playing the individual states off against each other, and thus being able to purchase American made products at the lowest price. It was not long after this that the Constitutional Convention was convened for the purpose of creating a national government that would protect the states collectively while being subservient to their individually elected representatives in the federal government. It was believed this balance of powers would last forever. To a degree it has.

However, the balance of powers is presently in jeopardy as the federal government controls increasingly more and more of the people’s taxes, and with impunity racks up debts the people cannot pay off. This is federal government run amok, not acting with unity for the people’s interest, but with greed for themselves.

Again, it all comes down to morals … and as respect for religion disintegrates, so does the nation.
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I agree with you mostly here. However, the depletion of respect for religion has been allowed to happen in the name of Secular Humanism -which was invented mostly through Liberal ‘Think Tanks’. At the same time they rack up the debt and create a nanny state. As if they’re preparing for a communist regime change and forcing it at the same time. :confused:
 
TEPO said:
I just don’t understand how Unity brings us closer to our creator. :confused:

…does your religion pose some sort of prediction that something new will occur once a certain level of unity is expressed?
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Because man is organic with society and is spiritually affected by it.

When Jesus proclaimed “Not everyone who says ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He who does the will of the Father enters the Kingdom of Heaven”, what sorts of things constitute the “Will of the Father”?

My understanding, humbly presented for your consideration, is that we must act with loving kindness to all, be humble, see Christ in all things, be fair minded and just.

But how difficult is it to be all of these things when you are in a society that is unjust, unfair, unloving etc?

Man affects society and in turn is affected by it. The individual, the community and the institutions of society all impact the salvific deeds and works of the individual.

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Right loving kindness but quicker in unity. Its purification, as far as the larger world issues, but, as we narrow down the list of issues, such as finance, water, oil. terrorism and the very real possibility anything can occur at any moment and it should be expected. We still have time to mitigate, and frankly the unity shouldn’t be as diverse on these points. However lifestyle of the west has caused a great deal of sleep-walking. Pleasure to pleasure in the moment till the moment doesn’t exist as it did and the reality has changed. The poor and starving, its abominable the way that is handled, read Save the Children’s medical policy. Thats the basic western UN drival. If you don’t sign up for the pro-choice program the US and its friends have no help for you. And I use friends loosely on a world level, we have “associates”

Which road will we take here?
 
Servant19 said:
Because man is organic with society and is spiritually affected by it.

When Jesus proclaimed “Not everyone who says ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He who does the will of the Father enters the Kingdom of Heaven”, what sorts of things constitute the “Will of the Father”?

My understanding, humbly presented for your consideration, is that we must act with loving kindness to all, be humble, see Christ in all things, be fair minded and just.

But how difficult is it to be all of these things when you are in a society that is unjust, unfair, unloving etc?

Man affects society and in turn is affected by it. The individual, the community and the institutions of society all impact the salvific deeds and works of the individual.

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Some pretty nice entries, fancy as well. Agree with the thinking other then exactly how the question about the tree’s shadowing the grass and so on. The reply got into governing and so on. I thought you were going to reply the tree’s relative to the grass, are the same as different plants and their colors in a garden, where the rays from the sun is perfectly filtered for their becoming. Anyway in general , relative to the topic if a system is comfortable with Peace on Earth, it may be difficult to discriminate away from Unity on Earth.
 
orang said:
Some pretty nice entries, fancy as well. Agree with the thinking other then exactly how the question about the tree’s shadowing the grass and so on. The reply got into governing and so on. I thought you were going to reply the tree’s relative to the grass, are the same as different plants and their colors in a garden, where the rays from the sun is perfectly filtered for their becoming. Anyway in general , relative to the topic if a system is on board with Peace on Earth, it may be an awkward undertaking to discriminate away from Unity on Earth.
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Trees and grasses are actually at war with each other… Shrubs are caught in the crossfire. :cool:

(You do realize that grasses can and do kill baby trees right? But then so do shrubs)
 
TEPO said:
Trees and grasses are actually at war with each other… Shrubs are caught in the crossfire. :cool:

(You do realize that grasses can and do kill baby trees right?)
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sure you want to go that route, just checking.
 
Alright, maybe I’m confused at how this idea is adding to the explaining, originally. So…I have to be careful and will go back and see if I missed something.
 
That peace on earth must come after there are too few left to argue about how they think we should preserve life. We may be evolving into the next stage of our animal heritage.
 
With the things in nature aggressively interfering with other things in nature , such as used in the example with the tree, grass and shrub,

If a pet owner brings home the groceries and keeps the whole basket of meat away from the pet, is there any evidence the pet owner is in competition with the pet ?
 
orang said:
With the things in nature aggressively interfering with other things in nature , such as used in the example with the tree, grass and shrub,

If a pet owner brings home the groceries and keeps the whole basket of meat away from the pet, is there any evidence the pet owner is in competition with the pet ?
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The dog and the owner both remain in constant competition with the elements of nature (the basket, bacteria, air, decomposition, time) but not necessarily against each other.

…although the dog may wait for the owner to leave the room and jump up on the table and get into the basket. In this case, the dog may be competing if he’s a bad dog.
 
TEPO said:
The dog and the owner both remain in constant competition with the elements of nature (the basket, bacteria, air, decomposition, time) but not necessarily against each other.
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A condition clause , how would the whole forest, plants, insects, animals, not also be included in the condition clause, not necessarily against each other . Or possibly not at all in competition relative to the first and future need, the setting itself. A unanimously agreed theme and some unity.
 
orang said:
A condition clause , how would the whole forest, plants, insects, animals, not also be included in the condition clause, not necessarily against each other . Or possibly not at all in competition relative to the first and future need, the setting itself. A unanimously agreed theme and some unity.
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In the forest, there exists pure animal instincts including the hunter (dog owner). The prey would be competing for his life, the hunter competing for food, the animals, plants, insects, and all elements are in competition to survive.

…it wasn’t until the dog owner brought the meat home in the basket that competition became unity -because he probably intended to share a portion with his dog… But actually, unity came before that when the man and his dog first developed a relationship.

Is this answer close to what you’re searching for?
 
GaryTaylor said:
That peace on earth must come after there are too few left to argue about how they think we should preserve life. We may be evolving into the next stage of our animal heritage.
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Or reverting back to an earlier stage of our human development … neanderthalism. 🤷
 
TEPO said:
In the forest, there exists pure animal instincts including the hunter (dog owner). The prey would be competing for his life, the hunter competing for food, the animals, plants, insects, and all elements are in competition to survive.

…it wasn’t until the dog owner brought the meat home in the basket that competition became unity -because he probably intended to share a portion with his dog… But actually, unity came before that when the man and his dog first developed a relationship.

Is this answer close to what you’re searching for?
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I saw a clip the other week while the computer was being fixed.

The setting was a jungle type of location. The clip was in excellent clarity , probably HD.

The first bit shows a giant fat jumbo snake, It was huge and seemed to be just sitting around.

The second bit showed a type of crocodile or something, it was a good size as well. It was walking along, probably going home and the huge snake seemed to get a hold of it.

The crocodile couldn’t really take off and had to deal with the problem.

In no time the huge snake is now opening his jaws and trying to get the crocodiles head in his mouth.

It worked and now the head of the crocodile is in the snakes mouth.

not too much time pass’s and more then the crocodiles head is in the snakes mouth, all the while the caught creatures feet and those small arms are doing everything to try and get out of this trip to no-where with no luck.

Finally all the clip shows is these two dangling feet at the opening of the giant snakes mouth…and then no more crocodile. Even the computer guy who’s idea it was in a general search had a little dismay in seeing the realities of the jungle.
 
TEPO said:
In the forest, there exists pure animal instincts including the hunter (dog owner). The prey would be competing for his life, the hunter competing for food, the animals, plants, insects, and all elements are in competition to survive.

…it wasn’t until the dog owner brought the meat home in the basket that competition became unity -because he probably intended to share a portion with his dog… But actually, unity came before that when the man and his dog first developed a relationship.

Is this answer close to what you’re searching for?
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I don’t see how this is material to the original observation , the tree probably intended on sharing a portion of the sunshine as well , ( with respects to the analogy.
 
I was to late to edit, I don’t see how value unity can be taken away from nature. It’s how its able to be nature, echo-system, order, harmony , unison. All the unique contributors have unique boundaries and express instinctively or by the plant biology.
 
Orang,

I’ll have to respond back again tomorrow after letting your responses soak in. it’s getting late here. Goodnight my friend.
 
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