Why do you “answer” questions about God’s command in the Bible regarding “an eye for an eye” with totally unrelated questions of your own?**Why do the Palestinians hide in schools, hospitals, and mosques? Why do Palestinian men put their wives and children into danger? Why do they think that they can keep pushing and pushing without being pushed back?
All of your Bible Quotes are from the Old Testament… why is that? Id it because that is what the Jewish people use or is it because you have an underlying point to make. There are just reasons for war… just in case you didn’t know.
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Because I am living under the new covenant not the old covenant. When Jesus came he completed the old by his death and made a new covenant where we are all brothers and sisters of Christ and sons and daughters of God the Father…the old covenant may have included an eye for an eye, but Jesus specifically addressed that one…Why do you “answer” questions about God’s command in the Bible regarding “an eye for an eye” with totally unrelated questions of your own?
And as for Palestinians hiding in mosques and schools, I think that I have the solution for this i.e. just arm and train them how to use F-I6 fighters and Apache helicopters among other things that they might require, then I am pretty sure that they won’t be “hiding” anymore.
Because Palestinian Muslims strap bombs to their backs, blow themselves up and don’t care if who dies with them.… continue to support Israel’s disproportionate attacks on the Palestinian population?
If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. … Exodus 21:23-25
To kill over 600 people so far and maim thousands of others and then dismiss them as being mere “collateral damage” just because their side’s rockets have killed a a few of your own people surely cannot be the teachings of either Judaism or Christianity.
Don’t these people believe that “an eye for an eye” as in the Biblical verses above is a divine command and therefore there is a divine reason why this command was sent down?
Is there anything in the Bible that allows for the killing and maiming of literally thousands of Palestinians in response to the harm done to a few Israelis?
This whole mess is caused by people who love their own creation called Israel more than they love humankind.
Or are the Palestinians considered less than human that they should deserve to be slaughtered in such numbers?
In other words, what you are saying here is that the divine command of “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” as stated in the Bible has essentially been replaced by the maxim of ‘Might is Right’ and that the state of Israel is allowed to massacre hundreds if not thousands of it’s enemies and to destroy entire towns and villages whenever any of it’s own people are harmed or even threatened.Because I am living under the new covenant not the old covenant. When Jesus came he completed the old by his death and made a new covenant where we are all brothers and sisters of Christ and sons and daughters of God the Father…the old covenant may have included an eye for an eye, but Jesus specifically addressed that one…
read the New Testament!
I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the United States and it’s allies have fought in more wars, attacked and bombed more countries and killed and maimed a great deal more people in the name of championing “freedom and democracy” throughout it’s 232 years of existence than Muslims have done in the name of Islam over the past 14 centuries since the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).… Why do you only see the collateral damage caused by non-Muslims and close your eyes to the slaughter which has been done by Muslims from the time of Mohammed?
No offense, but *please…*The Old Testament is full of lurid stories about how God ordered the Israelites to massacre their neighbors to take possession of the Promised Land. I’m sorry, but the Old Testament is the single worst reference one can point to as a spiritual authority capable of reining in the Israelis.… continue to support Israel’s disproportionate attacks on the Palestinian population?
If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. … Exodus 21:23-25
To kill over 600 people so far and maim thousands of others and then dismiss them as being mere “collateral damage” just because their side’s rockets have killed a a few of your own people surely cannot be the teachings of either Judaism or Christianity.
Don’t these people believe that “an eye for an eye” as in the Biblical verses above is a divine command and therefore there is a divine reason why this command was sent down?
Is there anything in the Bible that allows for the killing and maiming of literally thousands of Palestinians in response to the harm done to a few Israelis?
This whole mess is caused by people who love their own creation called Israel more than they love humankind.
Or are the Palestinians considered less than human that they should deserve to be slaughtered in such numbers?
And you are out of your mind! Ever read up on the Muslim slave trade in Africa? I doubt it. Check out what your people did to innocent Africans all for the sake of a dollar. History shows that Muslim slave trading made the trans-Atlantic slave trade look like a walk in the park. At leat when America has dropped its bombs it has been done in the service of other people. We bombed Germany to get rid of facism. We bombed Japan to rid the Pacific of an empire that was lighting innocent people on fire. And we bombed Iraq, for one reason, to get rid of a dictator who raped and murdered the young girls right in front of their fathers. At least when we have killed it has been in the defense of something, not done in the name of God. I tell you what: the next time one of your fellow Muslims cuts the head off of an innocent person and posts it on the internet, YOU stand up and scream about it. Until then, this thread is pointless. You have no desire for dialouge; You only want to attack America and Israel. Stand up and oppose your own militant people and then we will listen to you.I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the United States and it’s allies have fought in more wars, attacked and bombed more countries and killed and maimed a great deal more people in the name of championing “freedom and democracy” throughout it’s 232 years of existence than Muslims have done in the name of Islam over the past 14 centuries since the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
And why does the United States support Israel unconditionally in virtually everything that it does? … From what I read, it is because Israel is supposedly a beacon of freedom and democracy in the Middle-East.
Just where in the Bible does it say that God allows the faithful to kill and maim people and to destroy their homes and towns in the name of “freedom and democracy”?
Not only that, but the scriptures he has quoted were already fullfilled when they Jews were taken into captivity by the Babylonian Empire. He also forgets to quote the scriptures to wit God promised to restore the Jews to their homeland, granted those promises were fullfilled 70 years after the Babylonian captivity, but if he is going to us already fullfilled warnings, prophecies, then he needs to apply all.No offense, but *please…*The Old Testament is full of lurid stories about how God ordered the Israelites to massacre their neighbors to take possession of the Promised Land. I’m sorry, but the Old Testament is the single worst reference one can point to as a spiritual authority capable of reining in the Israelis.
You’re taking something out of context with the eye for an eye quote. First of all if you read Torah (OT bible) it is clearly referring to how things should be governed in Israel and what justice should be set for crimes. Its not relating to people who are not Hebrews with that verse. Nor is it relating to war. Your taking the verse out of Context. There are verses that relates to foriegners which Palistinians are for the Israelis. God also Told Joshua to make war on all the peoples of Canaan and drive them out. Joshua did not do this entirely. But look at what God did tell Joshua to kill everything (including animals) in Jericho. Fortunately for the Palistinians Israel is no longer commanded to do these things. However for christians Jesus refers to this law and says that we must turn the other cheek. Fortunately, for Israel they are not christian or the Palestinians would have put every last one in a grave. Palestinians are the peace loving inocents that they try to make themselves out to be. They are the peoples who like those of old Canaan who sacrificed their children to Baals but now the Baals have been replaced by political expediency and terrorism.Why do you “answer” questions about God’s command in the Bible regarding “an eye for an eye” with totally unrelated questions of your own?
And as for Palestinians hiding in mosques and schools, I think that I have the solution for this i.e. just arm and train them how to use F-I6 fighters and Apache helicopters among other things that they might require, then I am pretty sure that they won’t be “hiding” anymore.
Did I say anything about “reining in the Israelis”??No offense, but *please…*The Old Testament is full of lurid stories about how God ordered the Israelites to massacre their neighbors to take possession of the Promised Land. I’m sorry, but the Old Testament is the single worst reference one can point to as a spiritual authority capable of reining in the Israelis.
FYI, slavery existed long before the arrival of Islam and so why are Muslims being blamed for it?And you are out of your mind! Ever read up on the Muslim slave trade in Africa? I doubt it. Check out what your people did to innocent Africans all for the sake of a dollar. History shows that Muslim slave trading made the trans-Atlantic slave trade look like a walk in the park. At leat when America has dropped its bombs it has been done in the service of other people. We bombed Germany to get rid of facism. We bombed Japan to rid the Pacific of an empire that was lighting innocent people on fire. And we bombed Iraq, for one reason, to get rid of a dictator who raped and murdered the young girls right in front of their fathers. At least when we have killed it has been in the defense of something, not done in the name of God. I tell you what: the next time one of your fellow Muslims cuts the head off of an innocent person and posts it on the internet, YOU stand up and scream about it. Until then, this thread is pointless. You have no desire for dialouge; You only want to attack America and Israel. Stand up and oppose your own militant people and then we will listen to you.
As for your statement – “And we bombed Iraq, for one reason, to get rid of a dictator who raped and murdered the young girls right in front of their fathers.”
No, Muslims did not invent slavery, but they sure did a good job of “improving” it in Africa. The reasons you listed for going into Iraq were all mentioned at the time with WMD reason at the forefront. YOU may be confused but it’s obvious that the Iraqi’s have finally been able to enjoy some fruits of ours and their combined labor.Did I say anything about “reining in the Israelis”??
What I asked was → Why do people who say that they believe in the Bible continue to support Israel’s disproportionate attacks on the Palestinian population?
I doubt that most Israelis believe in the Bible and so my question was not really directed at them.
I mean, can there be such a thing as an “atheist Jew” from a religious perspective?.. From what I read, there are quite a few of them in Israel claiming the land is theirs.
FYI, slavery existed long before the arrival of Islam and so why are Muslims being blamed for it?
As for your statement – “And we bombed Iraq, for one reason, to get rid of a dictator who raped and murdered the young girls right in front of their fathers.”
I have never heard of this before.
At first, I thought that the reason Iraq was invaded was because of the presence of WMD’s in Iraq.
And then, the reason was changed to bringing democracy and freedom to the people of Iraq.
But now apparently, it turns out that the real reason for the invasion was because a dictator was raping and murdering young girls in front of their fathers.
Americans need to sort out the real reason why you are in Iraq because Muslims are really, really confused about this.
And as for your “At least when we have killed it has been in the defense of something, not done in the name of God” explanation, then perhaps Muslims need to remember that it might be more acceptable to non-Muslims that we kill in the name of something else besides God.
Israel wouldn’t do anything to Palestine if they were just being peaceful. Hamas goes and lobs grenades and bombs over to Israel, what do they expect? Why does Palestine keep provoking Israel, then play the victim card?… continue to support Israel’s disproportionate attacks on the Palestinian population?
If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. … Exodus 21:23-25
To kill over 600 people so far and maim thousands of others and then dismiss them as being mere “collateral damage” just because their side’s rockets have killed a a few of your own people surely cannot be the teachings of either Judaism or Christianity.
Don’t these people believe that “an eye for an eye” as in the Biblical verses above is a divine command and therefore there is a divine reason why this command was sent down?
Is there anything in the Bible that allows for the killing and maiming of literally thousands of Palestinians in response to the harm done to a few Israelis?
This whole mess is caused by people who love their own creation called Israel more than they love humankind.
Or are the Palestinians considered less than human that they should deserve to be slaughtered in such numbers?
Israel cannot put the population of Gaza into a big concentration camp and then expect them not to rebel.Israel wouldn’t do anything to Palestine if they were just being peaceful. Hamas goes and lobs grenades and bombs over to Israel, what do they expect? Why does Palestine keep provoking Israel, then play the victim card?
Did the Jews have water pumped into their camps? Did they have elections to form their own governments? Were they allowed to leave the camp with a pass so they could go to work outside of the Strip?Israel cannot put the population of Gaza into a big concentration camp and then expect them not to rebel.
The Palestinians are only doing what the Jews should have done to their oppressors during the 2nd World War but did not do i.e. fight back.
It’s pretty clear. Israel wants peace, hamas doesn’t. benjamin netanyahu was speaking and they just wanted a 3 hour peace. but even like 10 minutes after this, hamas launched rockets at israel. then they go crying like babies saying israel shoudln’t do anything.Did the Jews have water pumped into their camps? Did they have elections to form their own governments? Were they allowed to leave the camp with a pass so they could go to work outside of the Strip?
Have the Pal.'s been stuffed into gas chambers? Have their babies been bashed against railroads? Have they been injected with diseases and exposed to massive amounts of radiation like they were a science project?
Your comparison is disgusting. There is no compromise with you. That is the exact same frame of mind that the militants that lead and oppress Gaza (i.e., their own elected leaders) have today. Peace cannot be attained when their leaders walk out on meetings constantly like your boy Arafat. People need to stop dying; the violence is terrible. If the militant Muslims would stop the terrorism I bet peace may be withing reach. But then again, I am sure you would never admit that. It’s to easy to blame Israel and America, isn’t it?
REPLY: Good post, thanks!… continue to support Israel’s disproportionate attacks on the Palestinian population?
If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. … Exodus 21:23-25
To kill over 600 people so far and maim thousands of others and then dismiss them as being mere “collateral damage” just because their side’s rockets have killed a a few of your own people surely cannot be the teachings of either Judaism or Christianity.
Don’t these people believe that “an eye for an eye” as in the Biblical verses above is a divine command and therefore there is a divine reason why this command was sent down?
Is there anything in the Bible that allows for the killing and maiming of literally thousands of Palestinians in response to the harm done to a few Israelis?
Or are the Palestinians considered less than human that they should deserve to be slaughtered in such numbers?
Some Jews did fight back. Palestinians are doing more. They’re instigating the fight. Palestinians are only down trodden because they’ve made themselves that way. They victimize themselves so they can play on the worlds sympathy. I have none for a violent people.Israel cannot put the population of Gaza into a big concentration camp and then expect them not to rebel.
The Palestinians are only doing what the Jews should have done to their oppressors during the 2nd World War but did not do i.e. fight back.
So your point is that because Israel didn’t let Hamas finish the tunnel it was going to use to kill and kidnap Israeli soldiers, that Israel broke the cease fire in November? That’s what your going with??The following is actually a post from another forum:
It is common spin in the mainstream media to portray the people of Gaza as the ones who initially broke the ceasefire but this is not the case in actuality.
Here is CNN fact checking the Israeli claim that Hamas broke the cease fire first. US News and World Report, The Guardian, and The Economist are also quoted in the fact check report.