Why do some (not all) Protestants ignore these verses?

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This is base off why do Catholic ignore these verses but its asking Protestants why do they ignore the following verses:
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
  2. Gospel of St. Matthew 25:31-45.
  3. Gospel of John 20:21-25
  4. James 2:1-26.
I know there are other Scriptural verses that are ignore. I’m sure my fellow Catholics will find them. Note I did put some (not all)…
 
This is base off why do Catholic ignore these verses but its asking Protestants why do they ignore the following verses:
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
protestants ignore the beatitudes? what gave you that idea? you both look the same to me in following these things.
 
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
  2. Gospel of St. Matthew 25:31-45.
These two passages talk about taking care of the poor and caring for those in need. The majority of churches I have had contact with, both Protestant and Catholic, do some sort of charity work or ministry (i.e., food baskets, clothing drives, soup kitchens, paying utility bills for elderly members).
 
protestants ignore the beatitudes? what gave you that idea? you both look the same to me in following these things.
Now I know that you aren’t accusing us of ignoring the Beatitudes. 😊 Just because all of us don’t follow them doesn’t mean the church ignores them. Let me rephrase, just becuase most of us don’t even try…

I am surprised that Manny included them as well. The rest I would like an answer on.
 
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
  2. "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
  3. For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
  4. 4 Blessed are those who mourn,
  5. For they shall be comforted.
  6. 5 Blessed are the meek,
  7. For they shall inherit the earth.
  8. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
  9. For they shall be filled.
  10. 7 Blessed are the merciful,
  11. For they shall obtain mercy.
  12. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
  13. For they shall see God.
  14. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
  15. For they shall be called sons of God.
  16. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
  17. For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
  18. Gospel of St. Matthew 25:31-45
    . 31 "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [fn2] holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
    37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
    41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
    44 "Then they also will answer [fn3] Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
 
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
  2. Gospel of St. Matthew 25:31-45.
These two passages talk about taking care of the poor and caring for those in need. The majority of churches I have had contact with, both Protestant and Catholic, do some sort of charity work or ministry (i.e., food baskets, clothing drives, soup kitchens, paying utility bills for elderly members).
I think he is talking about being judged by your works. Good luck to LSU against Ohio State. SEC folks got to stick together.
 
  1. Gospel of John 20:21-25
    He spoke to them again and said, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” 22 Then he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, they are forgiven. If you refuse to forgive them, they are unforgiven.”
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 One of the disciples, Thomas (nicknamed the Twin [fn3] ), was not with the others when Jesus came. 25 They told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he replied, “I won’t believe it unless I see the nail wounds in his hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound in his side.”
  1. James 2:1-26.
    My dear brothers and sisters, [fn1] how can you claim that you have faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ if you favor some people more than others?
    2 For instance, suppose someone comes into your meeting [fn2] dressed in fancy clothes and expensive jewelry, and another comes in who is poor and dressed in shabby clothes. 3 If you give special attention and a good seat to the rich person, but you say to the poor one, “You can stand over there, or else sit on the floor”-well, 4 doesn’t this discrimination show that you are guided by wrong motives?
    5 Listen to me, dear brothers and sisters. Hasn’t God chosen the poor in this world to be rich in faith? Aren’t they the ones who will inherit the Kingdom he promised to those who love him? 6 And yet, you insult the poor man! Isn’t it the rich who oppress you and drag you into court? 7 Aren’t they the ones who slander Jesus Christ, whose noble name you bear?
    8 Yes indeed, it is good when you truly obey our Lord’s royal command found in the Scriptures: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” [fn3] 9 But if you pay special attention to the rich, you are committing a sin, for you are guilty of breaking that law.
    10 And the person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as the person who has broken all of God’s laws. 11 For the same God who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” [fn4] So if you murder someone, you have broken the entire law, even if you do not commit adultery.
    12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. 13 For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God’s mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.
Faith without Good Deeds Is Dead
14 Dear brothers and sisters, what’s the use of saying you have faith if you don’t prove it by your actions? That kind of faith can’t save anyone. 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who needs food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Well, good-bye and God bless you; stay warm and eat well”-but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
17 So you see, it isn’t enough just to have faith. Faith that doesn’t show itself by good deeds is no faith at all-it is dead and useless.
18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” I say, “I can’t see your faith if you don’t have good deeds, but I will show you my faith through my good deeds.”
19 Do you still think it’s enough just to believe that there is one God? Well, even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror! 20 Fool! When will you ever learn that faith that does not result in good deeds is useless?
21 Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was declared right with God because of what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see, he was trusting God so much that he was willing to do whatever God told him to do. His faith was made complete by what he did-by his actions. 23 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, so God declared him to be righteous.” [fn5] He was even called “the friend of God.” [fn6] 24 So you see, we are made right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
25 Rahab the prostitute is another example of this. She was made right with God by her actions-when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road.
 
This is a stunning and unwarranted accusation.
I would not know where to begin to respond. I do not think any Christian would know where to begin, no matter what kind of Christian whether they be Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic.
 
This is base off why do Catholic ignore these verses but its asking Protestants why do they ignore the following verses:
  1. Gospel of St. Matthew (5:3-10)
  2. Gospel of St. Matthew 25:31-45.
  3. Gospel of John 20:21-25
  4. James 2:1-26.
I know there are other Scriptural verses that are ignore. I’m sure my fellow Catholics will find them. Note I did put some (not all)…
I think Protestants do OK with Matt 5:3-10 (beatitudes). I’m not sure what they do with John 20:21-25 (apostolic forgiveness of sins) but I think some say that was limited to the Apostles themselves. They differ widely on James 2.

The one that is interesting to me is Matt 25:31-45, which I think many Christians, inlcuding most Catholics, ignore. It seems an unambiguous recital of what is necessary for salvation but it is too “social justice” for many Catholics to accept.
 
I think he is talking about being judged by your works. Good luck to LSU against Ohio State. SEC folks got to stick together.
Thanks! I was not a huge football fan, but my brother made a convert out of me. 😃
 
I had a Lutherin minsiter (Missouri Synod) tell me that Matt 25 meant that people who do them do them for Christ and the others did it for earthly rewards. I do not see that. It seems like the ones who did it did not KNOW that they were doing it for Christ and the goats did not KNOW that they were ignoring Christ.
 
This is a stunning and unwarranted accusation.
I would not know where to begin to respond. I do not think any Christian would know where to begin, no matter what kind of Christian whether they be Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic.
BrianH,

I did note some not all Protestants. I brought this up because some Protestants in here have insist we are not save by works and we are save by faith. The verse I show you are those deeds required of us by our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
I had a Lutherin minsiter (Missouri Synod) tell me that Matt 25 meant that people who do them do them for Christ and the others did it for earthly rewards. I do not see that. It seems like the ones who did it did not KNOW that they were doing it for Christ and the goats did not KNOW that they were ignoring Christ.
This is how I read it and I’m think to read it differently twists Christ’s word around. I shouldn’t have said Catholics ignore this passage, but I don’t think they pay much attention to it. Many times in conversations with Catholics over how judgment will take place or what it takes to be saved I point out that Christ described the process explictly, and they don’t know what I’m talking about.

This is a difficult passage for some because 1) it says that “all nations” would recieve this judgment, and 2) its clear that many of the sheep did not know that what they did was done for Christ. Taken together this sounds like it supports salvation outside the Church, doesn’t it? Some Catholics assert that there was a previous screening before the scene Christ describes so that only Catholics are even up there. Matthew seems to have omitted that part.
 
This is how I read it and I’m think to read it differently twists Christ’s word around. I shouldn’t have said Catholics ignore this passage, but I don’t think they pay much attention to it. Many times in conversations with Catholics over how judgment will take place or what it takes to be saved I point out that Christ described the process explictly, and they don’t know what I’m talking about.

This is a difficult passage for some because 1) it says that “all nations” would recieve this judgment, and 2) its clear that many of the sheep did not know that they what they did was done for Christ. Taken together this sounds like it supports salvation outside the Church, doesn’t it? Some Catholics assert that there was a previous screening before the scene Christ describes so that only Catholics are even up there. Matthew seems to have omitted that part.
I see your point about salvation outside the church. We must remember that that applies to those who with full knowledge and consent of will leave the Church even though they know it to be the true Church of Christ. I think that Catholics ignore the verse for the reason you mentioned earlier: it is clear that we must get off our collective behind and do stuff. And that is why some Protestants ignore it. I also think many Catholics ignore it because they do not know the Bible.
 
For Friends our spiritual life is intricately tied to our temporal lives. Friends relief organizations are known around the world…American Friends Service Committee perhaps the most well know. Also each Meeting has a Metting for Suffering committee which addresses the needs of our community. Many Friends don’t “celebrate” Christmas in the same way other Christians do…some of us spend our Christmas down at the local food bank or chow line serving the homeless or our local Rescue Mission.

A person’s religious affiliation really isn’t of importantce to most Friends…serving the “least of these” and answering the Voice of “that of God in each human” is true service and true religion.

Friends have addressed the issue of peace and seek to live “in that virtue of life which takes away the occasion of war…” for our testimony is “we know from whom war arises…” as people of God we are called to “be at peace with all men…” Friends have sought to engage those bent on war to consider peaceful means…how can we “love our neighbor as ourselves” and yet seek to end their life because of a domestic dispute? We may be called to suffering for our beliefs…and many Friends through the last few centuries are very acquainted with the inside of prisons.
 
BrianH,

I did note some not all Protestants. I brought this up because some Protestants in here have insist we are not save by works and we are save by faith. The verse I show you are those deeds required of us by our Lord Jesus Christ.
I have to question, respectfully Manny, your interpretation of these verses as directly talking about salvation.
Every church talks about works or deeds. They may not always relate it to salvation but they certainly talk about it.
I must also say I have probably been to quite a few more Protestant sermons than yourself and can speak from experience. There is not a branch of Protestantism that I have not visited with friends or read about.
It you believe all these verses are tied to a concept of salvation, you should approach it from that angle.
 
BrianH,

I did note some not all Protestants. I brought this up because some Protestants in here have insist we are not save by works and we are save by faith. The verse I show you are those deeds required of us by our Lord Jesus Christ.
Well, technically, we are saved by faith. But it is dynamic, faith-in-action (of which works are proof) and not the passive easy-believism faith of Sola Fide.
 
Well, technically, we are saved by faith. But it is dynamic, faith-in-action (of which works are proof) and not the passive easy-believism faith of Sola Fide.
But those who believe in Sola Fide do put their faiths in action, do they not?
 
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