Why do some Protestants think

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Ok…I’ve heard the same towards non-Catholic Chrisrians from my wife’s parish. Who’s right and who’s wrong? I’ve heard a ton of hate towards my faith background. Why is that right?
 
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If you’re talking to me I can only read it on my bible app so technically I have the Douay Rheims Bible
 
Im not saying it is right either way. And people from all churches will say bad things against others. And we are supposed to be brother and sisters in Christ. Sad, very sad.
 
We shouldn’t though. Should we correct them? I think yes. But being a Christian we should be better then that.
 
Plus writings of Saints from Pre-Schism era too…

It is alright to hate the sin, not the sinner… and Saints were always ready to admonish false religions while still being loving for people misled by them. And since Saints are our role models… 🙂
 
TC3033 said:
It’s interesting that one would say that Catholic boys will be the ones to respect you (but leaving out that non-Catholics can…and probably will as well) and then making the statement that the “others” won’t (without mentioning that Catholic boys will as well, remember only takes 2) seems…IDK, misleading,
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Yes perhaps but mathematically speaking it doesn’t say what you think it does. It might lead people into some meaning but that is up to people… and those people understand contexts obviously which erases that problem.

Either you go by logic alone and you are wrong or you include people actually thinking objectively and reading in between lines and you are wrong…
 
Which Bible do you have? The Catholic Church hasn’t looked good w those scandals. But, we have a constant thread of truth & God in our teachings & the Mass. Google:Eucharistic miracles. Our communion is Jesus.
The OT, refers to not worshipping idols often. THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME., Our images are like photographs. Something to focus on in prayer. We don’t worship the statues. Some churches have no images at all.
God bless
 
That’s true that the scandals haven’t helped and who are you talking to about the Bible? @tweedlealice
 
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David_Catholic said:
There is nothing wrong with Catholics talking badly about false religions.
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No kidding? Me thinks it would be a bit more difficult to comply with the following, no?

“43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”

Seems difficult to love those of other religions if you’re “talking badly” about them?

But wait - there’s more! From 1 Peter:

“ But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,”

Hard to be gentle and respectful when you’re “talking badly” about someone else’s faith, no?
 
Living streams ministry! I had the chance to correspond with a small group of them . They are anti clergy and anti asceticism. I wonder what they would say to St john the baptist upon seeing him in heaven .
 
I’ll take a stab at the OP’s original question. Those “some Protestants” who say these things tend to only get their information about catholic church from others who agree with them. Too few will seek to discover what the Catholic church actually says about itself, in it’s own words (but more do, since the advent of the Internet).

Also, Google “straw man”. Far too often, they will first misrepresent the true Catholic position, and then they will proceed to vigorously disprove not the true Catholic position, but their misrepresentation of it. And it sounds convincing, because their disproval itself is often quite sound.
 
OrbisNonSufficit said:
Yes perhaps but mathematically speaking it doesn’t say what you think it does. It might lead people into some meaning but that is up to people… and those people understand contexts obviously which erases that problem.

Either you go by logic alone and you are wrong or you include people actually thinking objectively and reading in between lines and you are wrong…
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I admire your willingness to defend the words, I do. Mathmatecally speaking, when i lay out an equation I can just willy-nilly erase variable on either side to make it say what I want to.

As far as your whole reading between the lines deal and saying I’m wrong…whatever. He said what he said, either he meant it or he didn’t. His message was pretty clear to those of us in attendance. It’s his position to own.

Point of the matter was, not just one priest or person speaks for a whole.

When the “false religion”, so it’s okay card comes out that’s usually where I need to step away before the dumpster fire ensues (especially in the non-Catholic board).

I’m always available via PM do discuss further.
 
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That Catholics are worshipping idols and that they are apostates? In my version of the New Testament in Revelation the writer of the footnotes think that the Roman Catholic Church is straying away from God.
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A practice is to make a symbolic representation of a god or an object that (one believes) contains a god and it may be worshipped. If it was for a god that is not the Holy Trinity, it would be a false god. Now some thought that images should not be used as symbolic representations of the true God. The seventh council of the Church in 787, the second council of Nicaea addressed that issue, allowing it. Some Christians do not accept all the councils and specifically the seventh.
 
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David_Catholic said:
We are called to love the people IN those religions, but if we love the actual religions THEMSELVES, that is a grave sin that must be repented of.
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Agreed. The subject though was “talking badly” about other religions. Imagine the following conversation:

Bill: Hi Joe. I want to introduce you to someone very important to me. His name is Jesus and he’s changed my life.

Joe: That’s great Bill. I’m a practicing Hindu, but I’d love to visit with you about who this Jesus is.

Bill: Excellent. But first, I must tell you that Hinduism is a pagan, hedonistic, multi-theistic religion that, among other things is satanic, vile and will ultimately sentence you to eternal damnation. Now with that out of the way, let’s dive into Christianity 101…

In sum, I think it’s quite difficult to carry out the great commission effectively whilst “talking badly” about other religions, no? Come to think of it, I’m not sure how one approaches anything or anyone with humility and kindness when “talking badly”?

In fairness, perhaps I’m misinterpreting what you mean by “talking badly” about other religions. If so, apologies. I just think when we talk badly about anything to anyone, they stop listening to us. Obviously we need to always speak truth - but we have to do it with love.
 
I was just reading through an older thread where Martin Luther was called a deranged lunatic for writing an anti-jewish polemic…

I understand the post-reformation and even post-schism saints said things that maybe lacked nuance. That doesn’t degrade their saintly lives. They had good reasons to say what they said at the time. I am thankful that the Catholic hierarchy today knows that dialogue is more productive than threats. Frankly, I am extremely tired of all the polemics going back and forth from both sides.
 
I mean it’s probably the Catholic predilection for statuary in churches and for praying in a manner that can be mistaken for praying to the statue rather than to what the statue represents. Saintly devotion/intercession also has something to do with it as they see Catholics as praying to the saint, not for saintly intercession. Many branches of Protestantism don’t hold with either for that reason, that at the very least it’s putting something between yourself and God, and at worse that you’re praying to something that’s not God.
 
David_Catholic said:
Obviously you don’t understand the concept of veneration.
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What I personally understand is beside the point. The OP asked “Why do some Protestants think that Catholics are worshiping idols . . . ?” One reason might be because they look like they are worshiping statues. Not sure why that observation provokes a defensive response. Catholics know why they do things, but most Protestants aren’t going to have that knowledge or if they do they might still think the Catholic concept of veneration is flawed, unbiblical or even idolatry.

One man’s medicine is another man’s poison.
 
thelovelyone said:
That Catholics are worshipping idols and that they are apostates? In my version
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The KJV is written in beautiful prose. Psalm 23, is comforting in KJV. I left the Catholic Church for 4 yrs. I had foster kids of different faiths. Vatican II wasn’t Modernism to me. IT WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT! In the Catholic Church or in a Protestant Church. Different denominations have some beautiful worship services of praise. God is in Praise. Most think Communion is a Symbol but some are right w us. A female visiting minister to Assemblies of God, called the congregation to personally repenting w God & NOT RECEIVING COMMUNION till they felt clean. She was fasting & God showed her “this thing was Baptist & this part was Catholic.” She told them Jesus was the communion. It was exhilarating to hear. The scripture from the Last Supper was read. That is where the HS makes the change w the power of the scripture. Debate as you will but the scripture is Jesus (the Word) The priests have anointed fingers. True. They’re dedicated lives for Jesus/God. God is not dead. He lives & calls ppl to serve Him. They answer. IDK! God was glorified. God will clarify when I see Him. Fundamental Baptist’s are anti-Catholic. Literature was in the front of the church. I talked to the Pastor. The Gospel is about a loving Savior. Preach the Gospel. God is not anti-Catholic. Only way to end prejudice is w Love…
 
Now I’m curious about what they argued against Catholicism
 
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