Why do you hate Islam?

[bobzills]

The topic is drifting away. It is sure that you all hate Islam. The reason seems to be some wars against the enemies. You have the bibleOT attached as an integral part of your faith. Would you all hate the Jews too for their ruthless killing of innocent men and women and children. Even animals were not spared. Please all look back and hate every fighter.

Please do not generalise like that.
Some of us have good friends and neighbors who are Muslims. I certainly repect their serious and prayerful attitude. On the other hand, some of us have a few questions concerning some of the more militant anti-Christian views that we have heard expressed. For example, is it true in Saudi Arabia that you are subject to the death penalty if you convert to Catholicism?

 

[sedonaman]

((you sure are smart. )) thanks, i like to keep tabs on international news. and by ignorant i was saying i haven’t studied Islam.

You sure fell for that one.

((And so Hezbollah magically went away.)) well, they didn’t just go away but the people of Lebanon have spoken.

And … your point is?

((That violent Jihad against non-Muslims wasn’t waged for centuries?)) What about the crusades? The Spanish inquisition?

Not that you care, but the Crusades were a response to what happened before them:
609-22 AD – Mohammed preaches in Mecca
622 – Meccans kick Mohammed out, he and his followers move to Medina, raid caravans
624 – Battle of Badr
625 – Battle of Uhud
629 – Muhammad conquest of Mecca
632 – Mohammed dies
633 – Mesopotamia falls to Muslim invasion, followed by the entire Persian Empire
635 – Damascus falls
638 – Jerusalem capitulates
643 – Alexandria falls, ending 1,000 years of Hellenic civilization
648-49 – Cyprus falls
653 – Rhodes falls
673 – Constantinople attacked
698 – All of North Africa lost
711 – Spain invaded
717 – Muslims attack Constantinople again; repelled by Emperor Leo the Isaurian
721 – Saragossa falls, Muslims sights on southern France
720 – Narbonne falls.
732 – Bordeaux was stormed and its churches burnt down
732 – Charles Martel and his Frankish army defeat Muslims, turning back the Muslim tide
732 – Attacks on France continued
734 – Avignon captured by an Muslim force
743 – Lyons sacked
759 – Arabs driven out of Narbonne.
838 – Marseilles plundered
800 – Muslims incursions into Italy begin, Islands of Ponza and Ischia plundered
813 – Civitavecchia, the port of Rome sacked
826 – Crete falls to Muslim forces
827 – Muslim forces begin to attack Sicily.
837 – Naples repels a Muslim attack
838 – Marseilles taken
840 – Bari falls
842 – Messina captured and Strait of Messina controlled
846 – Muslims squadrons arrived at Ostia, at the Tiber’s mouth, sack Rome and St. Peter’s Basilica
846 – Taranto in Apulia conquered by Muslim forces
849 – Papal forces repel Muslim fleet at the mouth of the Tiber
853 – 871 – Italian coast from Bari down to Reggio Calabria controlled, Muslims terrorize Southern Italy.
859 – Muslims take control of all Messina
870 – Malta captured by the Muslims.
870 – Bari recaptured from the Muslims by Emperor Louis II
872 – Emperor Louis II defeats a Saracen fleet off Capua
872 – Muslim forces devastate Calabria
878 – Syracuse falls after a nine-month siege
879 – Pope John VIII forced to pay tribute of 25,000 mancuses (AUD$625,000) annually to the Muslims
880 – Byzantine Commanders gain victory over Saracen forces at Naples
881 – Muslims capture fortress near Anzio, plunder surrounding countryside with impunity for forty [40] years.
887 – Muslim armies take Hysela and Amasia, in Asia Minor.
889 – Toulon captured

902 – Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece,
904 – Thessalonica falls to Muslim forces
915 – After three months of blockade, Christian forces victorious against Saracens holed-up in their fortresses north of Naples
921 – English pilgrims to Rome crushed to death under rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the passes of the Alps
934 – Genoa attacked by Muslim forces
935 – Genoa taken
972 – Saracens finally driven from Faxineto
976 – Caliphs of Egypt send fresh Muslim expeditions into southern Italy. Initially the German Emperor Otho II , who had set up his headquarters in Rome, successfully defeated these Saracen forces
977 – Sergius, Archbishop of Damascus, expelled from his See by Muslims
982 – Emperor Otho’s forces ambushed and his army defeated
1003 – Muslims from Spain sack Antibes
1003-09 – Marauding bands of Saracens plunder Italian coast from Pisa to Rome from bases on Sardinia
1005 – Muslims from Spain sack Pisa
1009 – Caliph of Egypt orders destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Tomb of Jesus
1010 – Saracens seize Cosenza in southern Italy.
1015 – All Sardinia falls
1016 – Muslims from Spain again sack Pisa
1017 – Fleets of Pisa and Genoa sail for Sardinia, find Saracens crucifying Christians, drive Saracen leader out. Saracens try to re-take Sardinia until 1050
1020 – Muslims from Spain sack Narbonne
1095 – The First Crusade.

There were 463 years between Mohammed’s death in 632 and the calling of a Crusade to free lands that had been Christian for a thousand years before the Muslim invaders arrived. Any characterization of the Crusades that doesn’t include this perspective is absurd on its face.
Source: “The Crusades In Context” by Dr Paul Stenhouse

The Spanish Inquisition was not waged against Muslims; it was to root out Christian heretics as they saw them at the time.

My point is every religion goes through rough times, Christianity and Islam included.

Any “tough times” Islam went through are its own fault.

But to keep on reminding them of the mistakes of there forefathers isent going to Help the problem.

Do you mean to include mea culpa breast-beaters like you who bring up things like the Crusades and Inquisition and just generally exaggerate the faults of Christianity and excuse those of “The Other” don’t help Christianity?

What do our Muslim Friends think about Agabriel’s comments on the All the violence in Islam?

I can’t speak for them, but I have definite ideas.

 

[Agabriel]

Trust me i didn’t go to a catholic school for nothing, i am saying this because Jesus told us to love our enemies (not saying Islam is our enemy) and if evil is our enemy then …

((Mohammed, on the other hand, essentially says Yes! Right on! and Mohammedans have been grovelling before the Evil One, the Adversary, ever since, selling their souls as slaves of allah, in order to obtain worldly power. ))

This last quote baffles me, your saying Islam is a group of devil worshipers?

Sure Jesus could have been referring to Islam in those scriptures, he could just as easily be referring to Hitler or the Anti-Christ.

((It is too bad that you keep wanting to discuss something you don’t have a clue about. Why do you keep doing that and then telling me that I am wrong? Why don’t you find out for yourself? Unless the answer is that you already know and are indeed a Muslim and just trying to bash me while pretending to be a Christian.))

i know enough about Islam and the world to know that an entire religion can't be based on such a violent man and principles. Even so if Islam where as violent as you claim, would Israel still be in existence?

I have also heard moderate clerics say people of the book ie Judaism and Christianity can still get to heaven and not to harm them or interfere in there affairs, just look at the freedom of religion laws in Iran. i even think they quoted parts of the Quran.

Hickmanjosh

Since your notes are basically to be a lazy way to find out about Islam, and then when you do you have a problem with it, I need to find out what you do know.

Why don’t you explain to me what you think Islam is. I ask this since you are not aware that to be a Muslim one has to not only accept Allah, but to fully accept Muhammed. Muhammed is not a minor ‘player’ in Islam. What do you think Islam is?

And then tell me the difference between Muslims and Islam. (hint: the same difference between Jews, the people, and Judaism, the faith; and Christians, the people, vs Catholics/Protestants, the faiths).

And then what are your goals? To just argue about what you don’t know? Or is there some purpose to your questions?

 

[HickmanJosh]

It seems i am a bit out of my league when it comes to this subject.

((Since your notes are basically to be a lazy way to find out about Islam, and then when you do you have a problem with it, I need to find out what you do know.))

I want to know what you think should be done. i know you told our Muslim friend to start some sort of pacifist/reformist movement but what do you think the RCC should do with respect to such a “danger”?

((Why don’t you explain to me what you think Islam is.))

I think that Islam is a very robust and devout religion, i can’t say much more because i do not know very much more about it,

i am hear because i would like to understand How people can hate an Ideology yet not hate those how profess it.

HickmanJosh

 

[StevieD]

Why do you hate Islam?
Is it because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html
themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

1. Do you deeply believe in the logic of Islam and you can’t say it?
2. Did you visit Islamic sites or read Koran to judge it?
3. Judging can’t be done by quick overview but needs reading and comparing.
4. Do you know Islam respects Jesus and Mary very much and Jewish call them illegitimate and whore?
5. We have all the resources to know and judge. Check the Internet, it’s free.

Beneficial Links for Non-Muslims
muslim-answers.org
islam-guide.com/

Getting back to your original question:

1. No we don’t even study it. Why should we? Our Lord told us that he was the Way, the Truth and the Life and that what was necessary but unknown at the time of His Ascension, would be revealed to His Church by the Holy Spirit. So we do not see the relevance of ANY later revelation not only the Koran but the writings of all the very many self-proclaimed prophets from Jesus down to the present day. It would make just as much sense for us to ask whether you have read e.g the Book of Mormon, written by a man who claimed to be a prophet. You don’t believe he could have been BECAUSE HE CAME LATER than Mahomet so*** you ***don’t study his ‘revelation’, writiings or life. Do you understand the analogy?
2. No (see answer to 1)
3. We see no reason to make comparisons for the same reason you do not compare e.g. the Book of Mormon to the Koran (i.e. the former came after your FINAL revelation)
4. This is just slander on Judaism. Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism although they do not yet accept that Jesus was the Messiah.
5. Why should we bother? We have our Lord’s assurance that His revelations, and those promised by the Holy Spirit to the Church would be complete and that we should ignore those offering a different Gospel.

You are on this site seeking converts, you are going to be disappointed.

 

[Agabriel]

It seems i am a bit out of my league when it comes to this subject.

((Since your notes are basically to be a lazy way to find out about Islam, and then when you do you have a problem with it, I need to find out what you do know.))

I want to know what you think should be done. i know you told our Muslim friend to start some sort of pacifist/reformist movement but what do you think the RCC should do with respect to such a “danger”?

((Why don’t you explain to me what you think Islam is.))

I think that Islam is a very robust and devout religion, i can’t say much more because i do not know very much more about it,

i am hear because i would like to understand How people can hate an Ideology yet not hate those how profess it.

HickmanJosh

I joined Act for America - that is a solution I myself have found to be very gratifying as for making sure it stays ‘at the mosque’ instead of imposed upon us, or for something such as ‘creeping sharia’ to come about.

Just like any totalitarian movement. I am bypassing a lot of the beginnings of Muhammed’s movement, but he promised desert dwellers who lived in a harsh environment: an orgy of virgins and little boys, an abundance of water, wine and food in their heaven; dominance over not only their own women, but anyone not a believer; wealth and slaves; easy divorce and many wives.

Sin was whatever Muhammed said it was, as was ‘good deeds’. A Muslim was not guaranteed a way to heaven and ‘fighting for Allah’s Cause’ was a sure way. He hated ‘hypocrites’ those who did not give of themselves or their wealth for ‘Allah’s Cause’.

Good deeds in Islam:

1. To believe in me (Muhammed) and our doctrine
2. To fight on behalf of our cause or to give of their wealth

surah 23: 101-102 - important part - everything a muslim does - halal, haram, good deeds, desire, act, etc are put on the scale. If the scales are heavy you go to salvation if the scales are light you go to hell. (My link to the Caner brothers who talk about this in one of their videos goes into the ‘scales’)

You can hate the sin and love the sinner. This is one of the reasons why I don’t think you are a Catholic, or a Protestant Christian. This should not even be an issue.

The closest thing we have in our time to how could masses of people could follow such a guy as Muhammed would be Hitler, or Stalin, or Mao. Why would people, say in Mao’s China, be ok with killing their own, even in some cases - eating their own out of hatred? Or in Stalin’s Russia, how could Stalin get so many people to follow him? Kill their own?

One thing they have in common is an ‘us vs them’ mentality. They elevate someone, or something, as an alternative to God. Stalin chose himself, Hitler chose ‘Fate’, I really don’t know what Mao chose - probably himself. And in Islam… Muhammed who used his Allah. If you would crack open the Quran you would find a remarkable Allah overly concerned with Muhammed’s sex life, Muhammed’s wealth, Muhammed being right there judging Muslims, etc. Basically, Allah=Muhammed’s wishes and desires.

And don’t discount ‘eloquent speech’ swaying people. Hitler certainly did that. Here is an interesting hadith that incorporates not only eloquent speech, but also it will answer why Muslims have fooled so many people when they migrated to other’s countries:

Bukhari: V4B52N233 “Allah’s apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying copies of the Quran.” He said : “Unbelievers will never understand our signs and revelations.” And he also said that nothing should be written if it could be spoken. He believed that eloquent speech had been the magic that had enabled his destiny. The Quran was an oral recital and the hadith remains nothing more than an oral report.

2 Corinthians 11 amplified from the original Greek. (this is astounding!!! This is Paul saying that Satan will transform himself into the image of an angel and deceive men using a false prophet. And the messenger will be boastful, yet speak eloquently; he will be deceitful, yet require obedience. He will come with a new message, a new Gospel.

It is no wonder the Muslims really hate Paul. Lucifer known as the angel of light, he masquerades around as the Angel Gabriel. And what can Satan promise anyone? wealth/greed, slaves, lust, deceit (taqiyya - I already gave you a link to that), etc.

 

[HickmanJosh]

i have to admit you make a good point,

((You can hate the sin and love the sinner. This is one of the reasons why I don’t think you are a Catholic, or a Protestant Christian. This should not even be an issue.))

right but i was thinking of it in terms of “if you open your heart to one form of hate then another will come a lot easier.” In my opinion to bear hatred against anything is bad, anger is something different altogether. The Church says that God is angry at humanity for all of the bad things that are happening (abortion, war, etc…) and that our prayers are the only thing stopping him from punishing us; And i think it is right to be angry at things like abortion and Nazism and such but to hate them is wrong, remember one of Satan’s big attributes is his hate and by letting a little bit of it into your life you are bringing a little bit of him in do ya really want to do that? now by anger i mean justified anger, or Righteous anger. Jesus set a good example in the temple by trowing out the scum in a show of fierce disapproval.

There is a big difference between hate and anger.

Now as for all this stuff you say about Corinthians 11, i don’t know how the church has interpreted that so i cant really comment on it in great detail but i think that Islam is hear for a reason, just like you and me, i think somehow it fits into his(God’s) big plan for humanity, that being said i am not sure which side it will be on.

Peace to all:thumbsup:

HickmanJosh

 

[Agabriel]

I can’t speak, or control, the Catholic Church. I don’t see too much coming from them though. I can control myself and just make sure people are aware of what Islam is and to make sure that - even though it is very hard thing to do - to make sure that the Muslims are not disseminating more junk that just isn’t true about Islam.

Their texts tell us everything we need to know about them. And that is what they don’t like about us infidels knowing the Quran. I quoted the surahs that tell them to confuse the Quran to us. They have had 1400 years, and still counting, of not having to answer for the stuff in their Quran, and in Islam - and they don’t like it that we are discovering it.

There have been posts from others, and I might have posted it once or twice, about the Muslims even trying to silence us via the UN. And like I posted previously that no Muslim country has signed a pact to stop slavery, or stop the abuse of women, or anyone who is not a Muslim, since it is against Islam to do so.

You can do your own web searches on the latest with the UN. Here is an article about it:

UN Bans “Defamation of Religion” in Islamic Bid to Curb Free Speech

Here is the latest on the UN resolution (from this article you can link to the original article)

Unfortunately with this sort of a thing we see that so many do not have a clue as to what Islam is really about, OR they do indeed know what it is about and want to silence us to know what it is.

 

[Agabriel]

Wow, I just got this notice in my inbox today.

NY Muslims openly call for attacks

In the past I have posted videos from NY based RevolutionMuslim.com. In the last one Muslim convert Yousef al-Khattab preached for Muslims to understand the terms of engagement in jihad. Now he has stepped up his up rhetoric and stated that Muslims need to use “your limbs, your bodies, their weapons, to promote the religion of Allah” and then finally a straight out call to “attack” the kafir. This man is obviously dangerous and needs to be locked up.

Unfortunately, the basic teachings are in the Quran so even if we put this guy away, or export him, there will be another one behind him because the Quran contains the basic teachings that tell them to do this. Putting this type in jails only give them fertile recruiting grounds for their religion.

There sure are a lot of people there listening to him too. I find it ironic that any black man is a Muslim especially with Slavery still openly practiced in Islam. Slavery in islam

 

[HickmanJosh]

Denieing someone there basic rights isent exactly the Christian thing to do. but because he is putting innocent lives at risk you should contact the Police with a report on conspiracy to commit terrorism if you think they are really going to do something bad.

The FBI and CIA probably already have a file on him anyway.

You still haven’t responded to my last post about anger and hate, what do you think?

HickmanJosh

 

[planten]

You sure fell for that one.

And … your point is?

Not that you care, but the Crusades were a response to what happened before them:

609-22 AD – Mohammed preaches in Mecca
622 – Meccans kick Mohammed out, he and his followers move to Medina, raid caravans
624 – Battle of Badr
625 – Battle of Uhud
629 – Muhammad conquest of Mecca
632 – Mohammed dies
633 – Mesopotamia falls to Muslim invasion, followed by the entire Persian Empire
635 – Damascus falls
638 – Jerusalem capitulates
643 – Alexandria falls, ending 1,000 years of Hellenic civilization
648-49 – Cyprus falls
653 – Rhodes falls
673 – Constantinople attacked
698 – All of North Africa lost
711 – Spain invaded
There were 463 years between Mohammed’s death in 632 and the calling of a Crusade to free lands that had been Christian for a thousand years before the Muslim invaders arrived. Any characterization of the Crusades that doesn’t include this perspective is absurd on its face.
Source: “The Crusades In Context” by Dr Paul Stenhouse
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**Sedonaman, you have created good history for the Muslims. Thanks. You did not mention that there was a Roman Catholic kingdom (Emperor), very powerful. Why they killed the unarmed muslim traders and preachers in their country?? When asked to explain, the Romans were haughty and they brought on a big army of about 100,000 to annihilate the Muslims. Why they did that??
You should start your lessons of history from the right place. There was a battle at Yarmook. The Romans were defeated. That was the downfall or start of downfall of the Roman Catholic empire. After that, since there was no truce, so the battles continued and the result was what you have shown.

The Muslims cannot be blamed for starting the conflagrations. Same thing happened to the Persians. They insulted the Muslims (Arabs). Persian King tore the letter of Friendship that was written by the Prophet to the Persian King. Please read the history correctly or take new lessons in history.

What you have written is true, i.e. about the Muslim conquests. But who was responsible?? Not the Muslims. You asked for it. There is no use blaming Islam for that. The Muslims were fighting against the enemies.**

The Spanish Inquisition was not waged against Muslims; it was to root out Christian heretics as they saw them at the time.

The Spanish inquisition was to convert the Muslims by force and threat of death by Queen Isbella and King Ferdinand(?)… Why they did that? That was a proof that Christianity was all false. It was not for any Peace.

Any “tough times” Islam went through are its own fault

.

Yes, if the Muslims had not been involved in internal politics and misdeeds they would not have suffered at the hands of the christian killers. Please remember the good result and fruits of the Muslim rule in Spain. It benefitted Europe a lot. Europe came out of the dark age due to the Moors in Spain.​

 

[slyboots]

HickmanJosh

**Psalm 97:10 **
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked
Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate
Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good
**Hebrews 1:9 **
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows

Matthew 5:44-48
You have heard it said you shall love your neighbor but hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

And that is why we must LOVE THE SINNER while HATING THE SIN.
Islam denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. It exalts a being called Allah and says we must revere that being’s prophet Mohammed. It encourages physical punishment of a man’s wife for many trivial matters. It allows for the marriage of little girls. It says in a Muslim land we must either be Muslim, pay special taxes to be either Christian or Jew, or die. it encourages the killing of non-Muslims in general. The Suras of the Quran have been quoted all throughout this thread. To believe and practice Islam as Mohammed presented it is practice wrongness. But we are not to hate those who practice it. We are to pray for them and encourage them to see Christ’s redeeming love for them. But we are not at anytime told by Christ or the Apostles to accept, condone, or respect this illict belief.:nope:

 

[BobCatholic]

**“Why do you hate Islam?” **

I don’t hate it, but I do view it as a religion of death. Its fanatics have completely hijacked it, and turned it into a ruthless tyranny. In its predominant form today, Islam is evil.

This is because Islam is relativism.

The fact that my questions earlier in this thread were not answered show that to be true.

 

[Hadi]

This is because Islam is relativism.
.

care to elaborate further

 

[ZAKI]

HickmanJosh

**Psalm 97:10 **
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked
Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate
Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good
**Hebrews 1:9 **
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows

Matthew 5:44-48
You have heard it said you shall love your neighbor but hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

And that is why we must LOVE THE SINNER while HATING THE SIN.
Islam denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. It exalts a being called Allah and says we must revere that being’s prophet Mohammed. It encourages physical punishment of a man’s wife for many trivial matters. It allows for the marriage of little girls. It says in a Muslim land we must either be Muslim, pay special taxes to be either Christian or Jew, or die. it encourages the killing of non-Muslims in general. The Suras of the Quran have been quoted all throughout this thread. To believe and practice Islam as Mohammed presented it is practice wrongness. But we are not to hate those who practice it. We are to pray for them and encourage them to see Christ’s redeeming love for them. But we are not at anytime told by Christ or the Apostles to accept, condone, or respect this illict belief.:nope:

I will pray for you also inshallah.
Allah means god in arabic firstly and secondly-I think you have noticed the quotations of a particular christian who has lied and misquoted verses. See my quotes.
Also you are confusing kuffar (non-believers) and the people from ahle-kitaab (christians and jews).

wasalam

 

[HickmanJosh]

((And that is why we must LOVE THE SINNER while HATING THE SIN.
Islam denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. It exalts a being called Allah and says we must revere that being’s prophet Mohammed. It encourages physical punishment of a man’s wife for many trivial matters. It allows for the marriage of little girls. It says in a Muslim land we must either be Muslim, pay special taxes to be either Christian or Jew, or die. it encourages the killing of non-Muslims in general. The Suras of the Quran have been quoted all throughout this thread. To believe and practice Islam as Mohammed presented it is practice wrongness. But we are not to hate those who practice it. We are to pray for them and encourage them to see Christ’s redeeming love for them. But we are not at anytime told by Christ or the Apostles to accept, condone, or respect this illict belief.))

You still have not directly answered the part i said about Satan being hate. Sorry for being picky but that was a key point of my argument and it has yet to be disproven.

you make a good argument with the bible verses. but there are also parts of the NT that say woman should be silent, are we to fallow them as well ?

oh and my Muslim friends, can i ask for a quote From the Qur’an about The people of the book and how Muslims should treat them ?

Be at peace

HickmanJosh

 

[lid2]

It is one function of Islamic law to protect the privileged status of minorities, and this is why non-Muslim places of worship have flourished all over the Islamic world. History provides many examples of Muslim tolerance towards other faiths: when the caliph Omar entered Jerusalem in the year634 , Islam granted freedom of worship to all religious communities in the city.

Islamic law also permits non-Muslim minorities to set up their own courts, which implement family laws drawn up by the minorities themselves.

The Patriarch invited him to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, but he preferred to pray outside its gates, saying that if he accepted, later generations of Muslims might use his action as an excuse to turn it into a mosque. Above is the mosque built on the spot where Omar did pray.

 

[Tatiana]

I don’t hate Islam. I just think it has been twisted and perverted by the teachings of some fanatics. This sadly has also happened in other religions, including Christianity and Judaism.

I do know that Islam reveres Jesus as a great prophet (altho not the Son of God) and also his mother, the Blessed Virgin.

I admit I do not believe in Islam as a religion (obviously, since I am a Christian!), but while there are things to be criticized IMHO about Islam, there are also many good things about it.

It is never fair to judge an entire religion by the actions of the worst, most extreme of its followers.

Yes, I have said some very negative things about Islam, but on the whole I was criticizing the abuses of the Muslim faith–just as I condemn abuses committed in the name of Christianity or any other religion.

God is the Creator of us all, and He loves us all as His children, regardless of our religion.

 

[sedonaman]

…
It is never fair to judge an entire religion by the actions of the worst, most extreme of its followers.
…

That’s a fair statement, and a similar one was made by lid2,

If I would like to know whether a religion is true or false, I should not depend on my emotions, feelings, or traditions. Rather, I should depend on my reason and intellect.

I provided him this reasoned analysis of Islam which covers these areas:
Evidentiary Religions – Islam Introduction
Koran and Judeo-Christian Apostles
Koran and Judeo-Christian Scriptures
Koran Contradicts Judeo-Christianity (Part 1)
Koran Contradicts Judeo-Christianity (Part 2)
Koran Contradicts Judeo-Christianity (Part 3)
Koran Contradicts Judeo-Christianity (Part 4)
Another Gospel and Explaining the Success of Islam (Part 1)
Explaining the Success of Islam (Part 2)
Explaining the Success of Islam (Part 3)
Islam Conclusions

It seems that people are willing to make lofty statements that appeal to the intellect, but they are not willing to put forth the effort to act accordingly, since he never responded. Perhaps you would like to follow up your statement by reading the analysis and commenting on it.

 

[lid2]

Islam is simple and logical religion a lot of people convert to It CZ they saw terrible thing about Islam in media and when they read Quran they know that what they saw on TV was media play therefore they find the true and convert to Islam.

Everyone sees all the bad media and the smart people who want to know the truth do research before coming to conclusions.