Why do you hate Islam?

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i thought the christians do as well??? :confused:
UNLESS! That was a joke 👍

wasalam
may be the series of Omen movies confused us 😃 , but i was really think hardly that according to christians , christ supposed to kill the antichrist
 
** slyboots, you are partially right. You can hate Islam and be praying for those who have joined Islam. But can your hatred go along with your prayers?? I am sure Jesus never preached or taught such a bad thing which you are adopting.

The Muslims also feel that church teachings are absolutely wrong. So they should also hate the christians… That is not good. Why not “Love for all and Hatred for none.” That could be the best formula to bring peace and happiness to this world? Not all muslims are jihadis. They seem to come to realise now that their practice of killing non-muslims was wrong. They will learn more.**
Lets get off of this hate topic and start tell people how to find peace with God through faith alone in Christ alone.
 
Lets get off of this hate topic and start tell people how to find peace with God through faith alone in Christ alone.
OR we can get off this hate topic and start telling people how to find peace with God through faith alone in God alone.

wasalam
 
how will he defeat him ?
I don’t know. does it matter?
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elwill:
may be the series of Omen movies confused us , but i was really think hardly that according to christians , christ supposed to kill the antichrist
As i remember Christ didn’t kill Damien the woman did. And thouse movies arnt based souly on Christian teaching about the Apocalypse.
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ZAKI:
OR we can get off this hate topic and start telling people how to find peace with God through faith alone in God alone.
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OR we can all go and start praying that people can stop hateing.
HickmanJosh
 
I don’t know. does it matter?
no actually , but i thought that defeating someone as antichrist supposed to means finish his life or by other words , killing him
anyway , i believe that jesus (pbuh) will kill him and i thought we have common beliefs about that
 
Did you know that religion is the smallest part of Islamic foundational texts?
Have you come to the place in your spiritual life where you know for sure that when you die that you will be in heaven with God?
 
i will not use my beliefs in the coruuption of the bible as to be proof for you that i’m reight , i know that it will be useless way because simply you arn’t muslim

i will discuss it with you by logic

first of all , i have to admit that my knowledge in hebrew is zero , but i read some articles about the true meaning of this vrese in hebrew language . and i want to see your comments about it

anyway , you said to me that i don’t know how to work with Scripture because my eyes are yet sealed. 🙂
well , open it for me 😃 i’m all yours , my only condition is not to ask me to believe anything blindly 😛 . i need all my questions to be answerd

peace
You havent asked any questions… so what do you mean?
All you did was quote an unidentified source that you cannot verify as you also said. What kind of argument is that? is this a joke?
And where is your linguistic explanation for “Father of eternity”?

Why don’t you just admit that you have never studied Old Testament messianic prophesies… neither have you read Isaiah 53… Did you know the OT talks about a person who will die for our sins, being pierced through… Did you know that God says in the OT: “They sold me for 30 pieces of gold, thats how much I was worth to them”. Did you know that its said how Christ would suffer, die and how he would get buried? Are you aware that Jesus died on Mount Moriah where Abraham wanted to sacrifice his only son in order to obey God and where God blessed him and his seed (Isac and Jacob/Israel … the chosen people, Jesus being a Jew…)?
I don’t think you know anything about our Scripture… If you did you would never in your deep ignorance say that they were corrupted, which is both historically and scientifically a ridiculous claim.

I know you want us to think Muhammad wrote the Koran in it’s current form. But let me give you the name Uthman. Try to look him up… that is if you want your faith to be in harmony with reason and not just blind adherence.

I asked you to tell me by what criteria you say which verses in the OT and NT have been currupted. You cannot say that some are and some are not, and then be unable to give me the clear criteria for how this happens. So I am waiting…

Lastly I want to post to anyone interested, the interview with a Muslim terrorist who tried to prove the Bible wrong and who came out as a Christian. His name is Walid Shoebat (Jordanian). He wrote a book called “Why I left Jihad”. He knows both the Bible and the Quran by heart (the latter in Arabic of course): moodyradio.org/brd_programarchive.aspx?id=11640 (choose dec 13) In this program you also hear Walid being confronted by two Muslim callers to the program.

Peace 🙂
 
OR we can get off this hate topic and start telling people how to find peace with God through faith alone in God alone.

wasalam
First of all, the thread was started and named by a Muslim. A Christian knows to hate the sin and love the sinner.

As far as the anti-Christ, Jesus doesn’t kill anyone. The Devil and his minions condemn themselves to eternal life in Hell.

Muslims think Christians abuse Christ because we believe Jesus was crucified and died on the Cross. This is not shameful to Christians. As Christians, we are called to participated in Jesus’ suffering (Col 1:24). We Catholics have a saying whenever somebody whines about something, “Offer it up.”

If you honestly study history and what the early Church believed and lived, you will see it is the Catholic Church. Read the Early Church Fathers.

**Here is what St Ireneaus in 180 AD said in Against Heresies Bk3:Ch3: ***
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known **Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul ; *as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its pre- eminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere.

Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110)**. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." *

These are verifiable historical documents.🙂
 
First of all, the thread was started and named by a Muslim. A Christian knows to hate the sin and love the sinner.

As far as the anti-Christ, Jesus doesn’t kill anyone. The Devil and his minions condemn themselves to eternal life in Hell.

Muslims think Christians abuse Christ because we believe Jesus was crucified and died on the Cross. This is not shameful to Christians. As Christians, we are called to participated in Jesus’ suffering (Col 1:24). We Catholics have a saying whenever somebody whines about something, “Offer it up.”

If you honestly study history and what the early Church believed and lived, you will see it is the Catholic Church. Read the Early Church Fathers.

**Here is what St Ireneaus in 180 AD **said in Against Heresies Bk3:Ch3: *
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known **Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul ; ***as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its pre- eminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere.

Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110)***. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."

These are verifiable historical documents.🙂
Excellent post Christine, 👍
 
Have you come to the place in your spiritual life where you know for sure that when you die that you will be in heaven with God?
You are on the wrong thread for that conversation. Please stay on topic.
Perhaps you have not read what answers there are for this question about hating Islam. We tend not to hate the people who practice it. In fact many of us are praying for their conversions.
However, God hates wrong. islam teaches wrong teachings. Therefore…
And far be it from me to not hate what God hates.
But Zaki, Elwill, Planten and the rest are good fellows, but led by wrong teachings. I do not hate them in the least. So far they appear to be gentlemen.
PS. A lot of us are converts to Catholicism here. By the urging of the Holy Spirit and obedience to God we waded the Tiber. Perhaps you would like to join us?
 
But Zaki, Elwill, Planten and the rest are good fellows, but led by wrong teachings. I do not hate them in the least. So far they appear to be gentlemen.
PS. A lot of us are converts to Catholicism here. By the urging of the Holy Spirit and obedience to God we waded the Tiber. Perhaps you would like to join us?
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You are on the wrong thread for that conversation. Please stay on topic.
Perhaps you have not read what answers there are for this question about hating Islam. We tend not to hate the people who practice it. In fact many of us are praying for their conversions.
However, God hates wrong. islam teaches wrong teachings. Therefore…
And far be it from me to not hate what God hates.
But Zaki, Elwill, Planten and the rest are good fellows, but led by wrong teachings. I do not hate them in the least. So far they appear to be gentlemen.
PS. A lot of us are converts to Catholicism here. By the urging of the Holy Spirit and obedience to God we waded the Tiber. Perhaps you would like to join us?
And we do the same (for your conversion to islam bcz just as you think catholicism is the truth we believe islam to be the truth).
P.S: I am a convert to islam and if you go on www.7cgen.com (a muslim website which is very good to learn more about islam and I go on) you will see some more converts. By the urging of God and obedience we waded (err what is the Tiber? some sort of river im guessing?) Anyway! Perhaps you would like to join us? 😉

wasalam
 
And we do the same (for your conversion to islam bcz just as you think catholicism is the truth we believe islam to be the truth).
P.S: I am a convert to islam and if you go on www.7cgen.com (a muslim website which is very good to learn more about islam and I go on) you will see some more converts. By the urging of God and obedience we waded (err what is the Tiber? some sort of river im guessing?)

wasalam
Yes, I have seen stories of these converts; for example, the Catholic priests who have converted to Islam:
youtube.com/watch?v=pn0iPlWQNlI
islamreligion.com/articles/586/
islamreligion.com/articles/852/
 
Have you come to the place in your spiritual life where you know for sure that when you die that you will be in heaven with God?
Is there a rule in this forum that requires one to be sure of his salvation before making a comment?
 
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