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Hi All,

Before I get accused I just want to make it clear, I am not a Troll, I’m just trying to understand scripture.

Why in several occurrences does Jesus to God as “my God”? For example:
Revelation 3:12
John 20:17

I read somewhere that it might have to do with translating Elohim, but I can’t quite understand it.

Thanks in advance to all who help.
 
Remember that Jesus is a Divine Person with both Divine and human natures. He could speak from both natures, and some confusion arises when one does not realize which nature He is speaking from.
 
po18guy said:
Remember that Jesus is a Divine Person with both Divine and human natures. He could speak from both natures, and some confusion arises when one does not realize which nature He is speaking from.
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Yes, I figured that as well, but where it confuses me is that In revelation, is he not speaking in his Divine nature? I know there must an explanation for this. Just can’t find it 🙂
 
It would be so cool to be our Lord! When people would say, “Why did you do that? It’s against your nature!”

To which (He) we could reply, “Oh yeah, which nature?”
 
Arthur.k said:
Hi All,

Before I get accused I just want to make it clear, I am not a Troll, I’m just trying to understand scripture.

Why in several occurrences does Jesus to God as “my God”? For example:
Revelation 3:12
John 20:17

I read somewhere that it might have to do with translating Elohim, but I can’t quite understand it.

Thanks in advance to all who help.
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I see, just so I understand what you mean. Jesus can speak from two natures and in both natures he can refer to God as “my God”?
 
po18guy said:
It would be so cool to be our Lord! When people would say, “Why did you do that? It’s against your nature!”

To which (He) we could reply, “Oh yeah, which nature?”
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I see, just so I understand what you mean. Jesus can speak from two natures and in both natures he can refer to God as “my God”?

Correcting my last post
 
Could it make sense that:

Jesus is the God of the Father and the Holy Spirit
The Father is the God of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit is the God of the Father and Jesus.

I don’t know just trying anything.
 

Hebrews 1:5-12 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)​

The Son Is Superior to Angels​

5 For to what angel did God ever say,

“Thou art my Son,
today I have begotten thee”?

Or again,

“I will be to him a father,
and he shall be to me a son”?

6 And again, when he brings the first-born into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.”

7 Of the angels he says,

“Who makes his angels winds,
and his servants flames of fire.”

8 But of the Son he says,

“Thy throne, O God,[a] is for ever and ever,
the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy[b] kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee
with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades.”

10 And,

“Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of thy hands;
11 they will perish, but thou remainest;
they will all grow old like a garment,
12 like a mantle thou wilt roll them up,
and they will be changed.[c]
But thou art the same,
and thy years will never end.”

Footnotes:​

  1. Hebrews 1:8 Or God is thy throne
  2. Hebrews 1:8 Other ancient authorities read his
  3. Hebrews 1:12 Other ancient authorities add like a garment
 
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Hebrews 1:5-12 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)​

The Son Is Superior to Angels​

5 For to what angel did God ever say,

“Thou art my Son,
today I have begotten thee”?

Or again,

“I will be to him a father,
and he shall be to me a son”?

6 And again, when he brings the first-born into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.”

7 Of the angels he says,

“Who makes his angels winds,
and his servants flames of fire.”

8 But of the Son he says,

“Thy throne, O God,[a] is for ever and ever,
the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy[b] kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee
with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades.”

10 And,

“Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of thy hands;
11 they will perish, but thou remainest;
they will all grow old like a garment,
12 like a mantle thou wilt roll them up,
and they will be changed.[c]
But thou art the same,
and thy years will never end.”

Footnotes:​

  1. Hebrews 1:8 Or God is thy throne
  2. Hebrews 1:8 Other ancient authorities read his
  3. Hebrews 1:12 Other ancient authorities add like a garment
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Thanks, I’m very familiar with this text, and no doubt in my mind is written evidence of the Trinity. But I can’t understand where Hebrew’s 1 answers my question?
 
po18guy said:
It would be so cool to be our Lord! When people would say, “Why did you do that? It’s against your nature!”

To which (He) we could reply, “Oh yeah, which nature?”
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…Here, have a LIke. 🙂
 
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Because the Godhead (the Holy Trinity) is three separate “persons” in one. The mystery of the Holy Trinity might be the root of your question.

Scripturally, with the thought of the Holy Trinity in mind, when Christ refers to “God”, he may be referring to God the Father.
 
DIERM said:
Because the Godhead (the Holy Trinity) is three separate “persons” in one. The mystery of the Holy Trinity might be the root of your question.

Scripturally, with the thought of the Holy Trinity in mind, when Christ refers to “God”, he may be referring to God the Father.
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So each God in the Trinity is “a God” to each of the three persons in the trinity?
For example:
Jesus is the God of the Father and the Holy Spirit
The Father is the God of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit is the God of the Father and Jesus.
 
Hi Authur

This thread seems to be a continuation from an open thread you started a couple days ago here…
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Hi All, I’ve read Psalm 110:1 in the Revised New Jerusalem Bible. It’s puzzling right from the start. (Yahweh declared to my Lord, take your seat at my right hand, till I have made your enemies your footstool. I’ve gone through this forum and many other web pages and seriously am having trouble with this. I firmly believe in the trinity, but I don’t know how to explain to speculators who refuse the trinity and use this verse against me. I’m finding it really difficult to explain it to them. A…
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Can you tell us if your OP there was answered? If not what is the difference in this thread that was not answered in the previous thread?

Peace!!!
 
adf417 said:
Hi Authur

This thread seems to be a continuation from an open thread you started a couple days ago here…

Psalm 110:1 please help

Can you tell us if your OP there was answered? If not what is the difference in this thread that was not answered in the previous thread?

Peace!!!
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Hi,
I guess sort of in a way it is a continuation, to be honest in the previous thread the answer to my question was:
" … the logical answer is that the Father was speaking to the Son in his human capacity as the son of David, which is why David “…by the Spirit calls him Lord , saying, ‘The LORD said to my Lord.’”

The Father isn’t calling the Son, ‘my Lord,’ that is David saying that. The Father is speaking to the Son, though, but he isn’t calling him 'my Lord." The Father is saying to the Son, Jesus, that he is to sit “…at my right hand.”

And when I got that it makes sense, I’ve always referred to that and yet somehow couldn’t see it plainly written in Psalm 110:1
But now I’m reading in revelations where Jesus I think is speaking in his divine form and using the words “my God”. I started a new thread on this because I felt this is a different question than the last and didn’t want to start making things more confusing.

I know, I know…Jesus is God, but really I just want to find explanations to these types of situations in scripture.

Thanks
 
Arthur.k said:
So each God in the Trinity is “a God” to each of the three persons in the trinity?
For example:
Jesus is the God of the Father and the Holy Spirit
The Father is the God of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit is the God of the Father and Jesus.
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No.

The Father is God, but the Father is not the Son nor the Holy Spirit
The Son is God, but the Son is not the Father nor the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is God, but the Holy Spirit is not the Father nor the Son.

Three people in one God, not three Gods.
 
DIERM said:
No.

The Father is God, but the Father is not the Son nor the Holy Spirit
The Son is God, but the Son is not the Father nor the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is God, but the Holy Spirit is not the Father nor the Son.

Three people in one God, not three Gods.
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You’re right, my explanation doesn’t make sense because it makes 3 Gods, not One.
 
Arthur.k said:
So each God in the Trinity is “a God” to each of the three persons in the trinity?
For example:
Jesus is the God of the Father and the Holy Spirit
The Father is the God of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Holy Spirit is the God of the Father and Jesus.
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No.

This is not correct.

One God in three persons.
 
Even though it takes one body to comprise a human person, it takes three divine persons to constitute one God. Mystery? Yes! Isn’t that wonderful to ponder?

Christ quotes Psalm 110 to demonstrate two things: That He is the Messias, and his lineage to the house of David (“Son of David”).
 
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