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PJM
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Anyone who has read more than a dozen post on ***CA Forum ***is aware of the intensity of “Catholic Bashing.”
Why do you think this is?
God bless,
PJM m.c.
Why do you think this is?
God bless,
PJM m.c.
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thessalonian
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We are the salt of the earth. The truth shines more brightly when the darkness is the deepest.
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PJM
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So are you saying that we are being bashed just to support there errant position?
God bless, PJM m.c.
God bless, PJM m.c.
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yellowbicycle
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- Cuz it’s EASY. As a former Catholic basher, I can say with all conviction that Catholics are EASY targets. I can say, really, whatever degrading awful things I want to say to you (and I HAVE said them) and you can’t say boo back to me because then you aren’t being ‘christ-like’. See how easy? It’s like kicking a puppy.
- It’s fun. I’ll be having a conversation with some ill-informed catholic and I can run circles around them philosophically. It’s not that I’m smarter than them, that’s not it at all, they just don’t know their faith. it’s like kicking a dumb puppy.
- Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. If everyone is bashing catholics, surely I can, too.
- (And this is one that Catholics need to take a good listen to) They’re weak. They shouldn’t be, mind you. They’ve got truth on their side, and in the end, what else matters besides that, right, but Catholics have NO IDEA what they’ve got, and they WASTE it, absolutely waste it. They lack conviction. They lack a SPINE. They lack unity. A house divided and all…
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PJM
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Awesome Post Thanks!
I’m not sure if I was prepared for this truth?
Any other ideas out there?
God bless, PJM m.c.
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juliasmith
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I like the former poster’s theory as to why there is so much bashing. I will make a note to make sure I learn my faith thoroughly.
Funny, I spent 20 years as a pagan (we were told ‘keep it secret, you have to hide’) and was quite open about it. Everybody knew. Not one person dared make fun of my religion to my face. Now that I have renounced that, people openly mock my religion without any thought as to whether or not I will be offended (I think some hope I will be offended). But then, Christ said it will be like this. He told us the world would hate us for His sake…and they do. Maybe that’s why Catholics don’t answer a lot of the mockery and bashing.
Funny, I spent 20 years as a pagan (we were told ‘keep it secret, you have to hide’) and was quite open about it. Everybody knew. Not one person dared make fun of my religion to my face. Now that I have renounced that, people openly mock my religion without any thought as to whether or not I will be offended (I think some hope I will be offended). But then, Christ said it will be like this. He told us the world would hate us for His sake…and they do. Maybe that’s why Catholics don’t answer a lot of the mockery and bashing.
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Kat876
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Because we are funny, funny people. I’m not sure how, but we are.
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happymommy
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Ignorance is the problem. People mock what they don’t understand. Most people don’t bother to learn more out of fear that they might agree with a Catholic 
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bilop
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Very simple, because the Catholic Church is one of the last major institutions in the world supporting traditional morality (particularly sexual morality) in this secular and relativistic age.
People want to engage in fornication, homosexuality, adultery, contraception, abortion, pornography, etc., and they want everyone else to approve of their “lifestyle choice”.
The Church refuses to do this, so She is attacked. She calls sin sin, and the relativists can’t stand it, b/c deep down in their souls, they know the Church is right.
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PJM
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GREAT POST
I’m thinking along similar lines.
Might it be that they MUST disprove Catholism in order to have a platform on which to “build” there own church? Or i9s it more synister than this?
God bless,
PJM m.c.
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littletherese3
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I completely agree with you.
I think that people know deep down that the Catholic Church is the one and only true religion, but because they are so uncomfortable with the teachings (morality etc) they chose to ignore it. They can’t face the reality of hell and sin, and so what is easier than telling/convincing yourself that THERE IS NO HELL OR SIN?
It’s sad
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erinelf88
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[disclaimer: this is based on personal experience only, and isn’t meant to reflect the majority.]
I don’t even think it’s necessarily sinister in a lot of cases. Sure, there are those who will go out of their way to attack Catholics in a hateful manner- like the man who stole and desecrated a Eucharist, and others like him.
When I was in high school, and was still an Evangelical, I dated a Catholic boy. I could never understand why he worshiped Mary, or why he bowed to statues, or why he couldn’t tell me he was “saved.” He could never understand why I insisted on pushing the issue, or why I thought he was going to hell.
Quite honestly, it’s a matter of education. Protestants in my area tended to be educated on the Bible, with little to no education on their church’s history or other religions. The Catholics tended to be educated on the Bible and the Sacraments, with little to no education about other religions, particularly Protestant traditions. So when we talked with each other, it was like we were speaking different languages.
Think of it this way: you are a church goer who is told repeatedly that praying to anyone but God is bad. Walking home, you hear someone praying the rosary. For every prayer to God, there are TEN to Mary! How could those idolaters focus all their time on someone other than Christ?! They do this, of course, without realizing that while those Hail Marys are being prayed… the one doing the praying is meditating upon the life of Christ.
I do think we, the religious people of the world(regardless of religion) need to do a better job of educating our children about other religions. Bring in guest speakers from other faiths, instead of just having the pastor stand up in front and yell about how “those Mary-worshiping idolaters are burning in hell.” There is a way to believe what you believe while learning about and respecting others’ views, IMO.
I don’t even think it’s necessarily sinister in a lot of cases. Sure, there are those who will go out of their way to attack Catholics in a hateful manner- like the man who stole and desecrated a Eucharist, and others like him.
When I was in high school, and was still an Evangelical, I dated a Catholic boy. I could never understand why he worshiped Mary, or why he bowed to statues, or why he couldn’t tell me he was “saved.” He could never understand why I insisted on pushing the issue, or why I thought he was going to hell.
Quite honestly, it’s a matter of education. Protestants in my area tended to be educated on the Bible, with little to no education on their church’s history or other religions. The Catholics tended to be educated on the Bible and the Sacraments, with little to no education about other religions, particularly Protestant traditions. So when we talked with each other, it was like we were speaking different languages.
Think of it this way: you are a church goer who is told repeatedly that praying to anyone but God is bad. Walking home, you hear someone praying the rosary. For every prayer to God, there are TEN to Mary! How could those idolaters focus all their time on someone other than Christ?! They do this, of course, without realizing that while those Hail Marys are being prayed… the one doing the praying is meditating upon the life of Christ.
I do think we, the religious people of the world(regardless of religion) need to do a better job of educating our children about other religions. Bring in guest speakers from other faiths, instead of just having the pastor stand up in front and yell about how “those Mary-worshiping idolaters are burning in hell.” There is a way to believe what you believe while learning about and respecting others’ views, IMO.
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damooster
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I am currently going through the RCIA and since I started, I have been getting grief from all sides about why I should not continue. A few months ago, when I was making my final decision to enroll, I dropped some hints to my father (he lives in Maryland, I live in Virginia) of my intentions (without telling him outright). He started going off on this tirade about the Catholic church and I haven’t told him that I am now in RCIA (side note: any advice on this one?).
The same goes for all of my friends and co-workers. Not one person, outside of the church, has shown the least bit of support. They all have reasons for their dissent, but when I investigate their claims, I find out that they are all untrue. Last night, a former Catholic told me that the church doesn’t allow interracial relationships, yet there is a couple in my RCIA class that is interracial. Another told me that Catholics don’t read the Bible, yet you can download the whole Bible on the Vatican website.
All of this makes me want to convert that much more. One of the previous posters was right; you tell anyone that you’re a pagan or Buddhist or whatever and no one says anything. Tell them you’re a Catholic (or converting) and their insults don’t stop.
The same goes for all of my friends and co-workers. Not one person, outside of the church, has shown the least bit of support. They all have reasons for their dissent, but when I investigate their claims, I find out that they are all untrue. Last night, a former Catholic told me that the church doesn’t allow interracial relationships, yet there is a couple in my RCIA class that is interracial. Another told me that Catholics don’t read the Bible, yet you can download the whole Bible on the Vatican website.
All of this makes me want to convert that much more. One of the previous posters was right; you tell anyone that you’re a pagan or Buddhist or whatever and no one says anything. Tell them you’re a Catholic (or converting) and their insults don’t stop.
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AlwaysAsking
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I’m an evangelical and that’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot lately…I completely agree with you.
I think that people know deep down that the Catholic Church is the one and only true religion, but because they are so uncomfortable with the teachings (morality etc) they chose to ignore it. They can’t face the reality of hell and sin, and so what is easier than telling/convincing yourself that THERE IS NO HELL OR SIN?
It’s sad
Here are evangelicals, who believe that you are saved by faith alone, essentially bigoted against catholics, who believe (as I understand it) that even with faith in Christ, salvation is earned.
so okay, it seems like CATHOLICS would be taking the initiative to confront evangelicals, right? Because if evangelicals are wrong, they may have some explaining to do.
but no, it’s evangelicals who are all proud of being right and wanting to tell catholics they’re wrong. By our own definition, catholics are saved because they’re relying on christ, they’re just doing harmless, unnecessary extra works. It’s not the catholics who are really at risk, right? I realize that I’m stretching here, but I find myself asking, what’s the motivation for being anti-catholic? Why would anybody who feels saved feel threatened by catholics?
…on another tangent completely, have you considered HOLLYWOOD?? I mean, most people learn everything they know about catholicism from the totally over-the-top stuff they see in movies. Compare how many negative or creepy portrayals of some element of catholicism you see, to the positive images. Who wouldn’t be leery of catholicism??
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Souldrifter
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Simply because we where the first Christian movement and the Pope our spiritual leader here in the mortal world. Is why others feels that because we are on the top of the pile they feel the need to have ago… It is called envy!
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Michael_David
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Do Catholic’s pose some sort of threat to the one bashing?
Natural inquiries coming from being curious are more low-key, but when one gets deep enough into morals and faith, it becomes simple belief based on faith… and that is not logical, sensical or sometimes reasonable (depending on who is doing the reasoning).
Other (man made) faiths are trackable through all the layers of us humans, even their faith… while ours is left to Christ, who does not answer the tormenters in this world (knowing their intentions).
We can say why we believe (faith), but the proof will come at the next stage of our existence. No one has been there and came back (except Christ) to lead us to the same place… and look what happened to Him? And His followers… even to this day…
The only one He told would be in heaven “this day” was the thief hanging next to Him. This may say something about crime and punishment?! He never even told the first apostles that they would meet in heaven like it was a sure thing, only the thief. So, what ARE we suppose to believe?
The already saved can do anything crowd? The preachers that want you to do while they do not? The charismatic sweet talkers out for your money? The bashers doing what satan wants and what Christ foretold would happen? (As they done to Him)
Natural inquiries coming from being curious are more low-key, but when one gets deep enough into morals and faith, it becomes simple belief based on faith… and that is not logical, sensical or sometimes reasonable (depending on who is doing the reasoning).
Other (man made) faiths are trackable through all the layers of us humans, even their faith… while ours is left to Christ, who does not answer the tormenters in this world (knowing their intentions).
We can say why we believe (faith), but the proof will come at the next stage of our existence. No one has been there and came back (except Christ) to lead us to the same place… and look what happened to Him? And His followers… even to this day…
The only one He told would be in heaven “this day” was the thief hanging next to Him. This may say something about crime and punishment?! He never even told the first apostles that they would meet in heaven like it was a sure thing, only the thief. So, what ARE we suppose to believe?
The already saved can do anything crowd? The preachers that want you to do while they do not? The charismatic sweet talkers out for your money? The bashers doing what satan wants and what Christ foretold would happen? (As they done to Him)
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Roza
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If it’s true that catechectics in the 80’s was lacking I can claim that as my excuse however I know I’m one that just didn’t get it the first time. I seriously never intended to bash but I guess I had. I was repeating a lot of things I had read that I thought were pointing out all the errors in Catholicism and I had my qualms. I basically had my own night of battling it out I guess you can say. It was a lot of tears and having to admit I was wrong about this, this and this etc. I need to not keep bopping myself over the head for it too. I had my beefs, I didn’t get it the first time. Now I’m a revert trying to learn my faith.
I know ex-Catholics locally. When I was working w/two Catholics say 2 years ago (or 3?) I made it clear I was (at that time) an ex-Catholic. Now I realize all my qualms were wrong.
I pray to make Catholic friends locally and of course to get a job. The ex-Catholics I know all thought I would never get over my anger with Catholicism… well, guess what? I realized my anger was unfounded and I’m not an ex anymore.
I know ex-Catholics locally. When I was working w/two Catholics say 2 years ago (or 3?) I made it clear I was (at that time) an ex-Catholic. Now I realize all my qualms were wrong.
I pray to make Catholic friends locally and of course to get a job. The ex-Catholics I know all thought I would never get over my anger with Catholicism… well, guess what? I realized my anger was unfounded and I’m not an ex anymore.
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adelore
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I just love this answer!
Just as in the days of Noah, people were living their lives anyway they wanted. Getting married, having children, living in sin, ect. Yet what did Jesus say? They hated me and they will hate you.
Is it any wonder why so many people bash Catholics?
The truth be told on why they bash us, is because they are **Itimidated ** by the Catholic Church and the fact that she has stood with the Truth for thousands of years.
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