In the very early days of the Church, the Council of Jerusalem ruled that Gentile Christians are exempted from the Jewish dietary laws. You can read all about it in Acts 15. Yes, it’s in the Bible!
Agree. Especially since the number of posts on unclean meat suggests agenda posting, which is against the rules of the forum.I think it’s better to lock this thread rather than convincing this person…urgh
If no dead animals are involved, it’s not “pizza.”
Yeah, you are off on that one. If you want to say that cannibalism is an acceptable practice, barring “immoral means” (which could be avoided easily enough), we could have a chat about it. Principally, it is opposed to the resurrection (not unlike scattering ashes), while eating a nice steak is not - no resurrection for animals and plants, and in general is abhorrent to the order of nature by strong intuition. (And now you see the logic of the Eucharist, “flipping” this desire of the nations to eat flesh, which is now efficacious for the resurrection in the Eucharistic Flesh of Our Lord.) The Old Law existed for more precise reasons. Specifically, the “cleanliness” laws related at least in part to the “gap” between worlds, the world of the living and the world of the dead/beyond… So that is why menstruation and leprosy are also “unclean” - there is a kind of lack of clarity of which world one is “in.” (Now it is spiritualized - so the lepers are those in mortal sin… in between spiritual life and full spiritual death. It’s also why we say we “purify” sacred vessels after their use… it is not that the Eucharist is impure - it is that the lack of clarity is impure. And the spiritualization of the Old Law is where we find the logic of Christ “fulfilling” the meaning of the earlier laws by effectively abolishing them materially and centering them in Himself.) For dietary laws, the significance may not be as clear, and it may include other elements as well. It’s always worth reading Thomas on such things as well…
Yaaaaahhh! Pizza started out vegetarian, and meat is a relatively recent innovation. My thing these days is cauliflower-crust pizza, which is not at all nasty, as one would expect it to be. I get them frozen and produced by this “pizza kitchen” place that originated somewhere to the west of Nevada…EugeneCharles:
If no dead animals are involved, it’s not “pizza.”
Rather, it would be "a roundish california foo-foo thing with (maybe) cheese and tomato sauce . . .
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It isn’t. My point was that the reason it’s immoral is not because it’s ritually unclean like some foods in the Old Testament, but for other reasons.