Why is it wrong to love Mary?

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I don’t think the Holy Bible can be considered to be a “tool”. Why are you so defensive about statues? If you like them, fine.
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Protestants think Catholic statues are a distraction from Jesus. When we are in the sanctuary we focus entirely on Jesus and His sacrifice for us, and His promise of the resurrection.
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Isn’t the Bible a distraction from Jesus by those standards then?

It’s just a book? Right? What makes it more special than God talking to our hearts directly?

And…how is it “not” a tool used in worship?

Why am I defensive about sacramentals (statues, holy water, annointing oil, paintings, churches, incense, etc…)?

Because God used them too.

That’s why.

So, if their good enough for God, their good enough for me!

👍

I’m not debating with you directly as you don’t seem to have a problem with our practice, but just verbalizing it for anybody watching who does have an issue with what Christians have been doing for the past 2,000 years.
 
2ndGen said:
Enough with the highbrowing and The Inquisition already!

Tell you what, whoever has “not” sinned,
let him cast the first stone?

Enough with the rats and the tattletails.

Live and let live!

Hey Gaun, what’s a “Jewess?”

To a Jew, that would be considered offensive. :tsktsk:

Should I report you now?

Jew·ess (js)
n. Offensive
A Jewish woman or girl.
Usage Note: Like many other English nouns in which the suffix -ess is added to a gender-neutral word to indicate femaleness, the terms Jewess and Negress are now widely regarded as offensive. It is interesting to note that the objection to words formed with the -ess suffix does not apply to words such as Latina and Chicana, whose contrasting forms Latino and Chicano are not gender-neutral but rather refer even in English primarily to males. See Usage

So stop casting stones!

You violated a forum rule even if you didn’t mean to!

As soon as I read that word in one of your posts, I found it offensive because I know that it is a deragotory comment on an ethnic minority!

You’re luck I’m not like you, that I don’t encourage or support the judgement on others that you do!

Or else, “you’d” be reported!

Is there anybody here who adheres to Jesus’ teaching on “not” passing judgement since you too can be judged by that same standard?
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I think you really need to calm down a little. Just relax a bit.
 
Hello Jimmy

I share with you the feelings about the place that Mother Mary has been raised to by our Lord Jesus himself. For me the perfect example of Mother Mary’s role is found in the description of the Wedding at Cana…She intercedes on behalf of us and Jesus hears and answers!
 
Namesake said:
I think you really need to calm down a little. Just relax a bit.
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Really?

People are all over my mistake…need I remind you of “whom” was banned for a while not too long ago?

Also, here’s the one who has an opinion on my getting moderated:

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guanophore

Re: Could Mary have sinned?
This is not true. She was a good Jewess, and knew the scriptures and the law. She understood why everyone needed a saviour. Have you been saved from your sins? Now that you have, do you no longer have any awareness of why we need a saviour???
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Anyway, we don’t know what she knew, or thought about and her awareness level. Talk about speculaton!
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forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=3230840&postcount=517

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This is what Mary was called!

thefreedictionary.com/Jewess

Jew·ess (js)
n. Offensive
A Jewish woman or girl.
Usage Note: Like many other English nouns in which the suffix -ess is added to a gender-neutral word to indicate femaleness, the terms Jewess and Negress are now widely regarded as offensive.

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Forum Conduct Rules:
3. Do not use character substitutions in proper names, such as “Amerikkkans” or “Demonrats” or “Repubicans” etc.

I’d say that the ethnic slur used by guan “Jewess” definately qualifies as a violation of the forum rules.

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Now, I know I’ve violated rules several times and I see the rules broken here all the time, but when it’s done mistakenly, there really isn’t such a need for tattletales.

Again, let he who has “not” sinned cast the first stone.

I’ve never reported anybody here (especially over something that didn’t have anything to do with me directly), nor have I done anything or forwarded an opinion that anybody should be sanctioned for mistakes.

And I really hate “better than thou’ers”.

I’m just not too fond of them.
 
premartin said:
Hello Jimmy

I share with you the feelings about the place that Mother Mary has been raised to by our Lord Jesus himself. For me the perfect example of Mother Mary’s role is found in the description of the Wedding at Cana…She intercedes on behalf of us and Jesus hears and answers!
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What I love to point out about that is that Mary seemed to know more than Jesus that it “was” His time.

When He said that it wasn’t His time, she didn’t say anything to Him but just turned to the stewards and told them to do what Jesus tells them to do.

And Jesus did it.

He didn’t correct her, He didn’t impose His will over her. He just did it…after all, even Jesus has to obey the commandment of “honor thy mother”.

🙂
 
Namesake said:
I was not banned. I don’t know about your situation. But I have not been banned as far as I know.
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Didn’t you “involuntarily” disappear for a couple of days last week?

Or did I mix you up with someone else?
 
2ndGen said:
Didn’t you “involuntarily” disappear for a couple of days last week?

Or did I mix you up with someone else?
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I did not “involuntarily disappear” any time. I guess you are thinking of someone else.
 
Namesake said:
I did not “involuntarily disappear” any time. I guess you are thinking of someone else.
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Did’nt you tell me that your account was suspended or something like that?

I found it, you told me that you were “warned”.

True?
 
2ndGen said:
Did’nt you tell me that your account was suspended or something like that?

I found it, you told me that you were “warned”.

True?
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Yup, I got some kind of rebuke. It’s none of your business beyond that.
 
guanophore said:
I disagree, ja4. When the Pharisees asked Jesus what was the greatest commandment:

Matt 22:36-40
Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”

This is all about love. The whole teaching of the law and the prophets is about Jesus, and He teaches the law of love. Also, Paul writes

1 Cor 13:12-14:1
13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Notice he does not say faith is the greatest? Ever wonder why not? This “faith only” doctrine is off the mark, that is why. It was not taught by Jesus and His Apostles.

Yes, repentance from sin is important, but believing that Christ died and rose again is not necessarily relevent. Even the demons believe that.
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Demons belive and they were in God’s presence and refused to obey him…we are immortal…this dimension is very important…I was wondering if someone would mention this…but maybe this should e topic for another thread and I’m looking for it…🙂
God bless
 
guanophore;3230872]
Originally Posted by justasking4
No. Your entrance into heaven does not depend on loving me or anyone else for that matter. Doesn’t have anything to do with Mary or the church. What matters is that you have repented of your sins and believed that Christ died for your sins and rose again. See I Corinthians 15:1-4.
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guanophore
I disagree, ja4. When the Pharisees asked Jesus what was the greatest commandment:
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Matt 22:36-40
Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”
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This is all about love. The whole teaching of the law and the prophets is about Jesus, and He teaches the law of love. Also, Paul writes
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1 Cor 13:12-14:1
13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
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Notice he does not say faith is the greatest? Ever wonder why not? This “faith only” doctrine is off the mark, that is why. It was not taught by Jesus and His Apostles.
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Although love is great where do the scriptures say that it is essential to be saved?
Yes, repentance from sin is important, but believing that Christ died and rose again is not necessarily relevent. Even the demons believe that.
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i must misunderstand what you say here. Are you saying that you don’t need to believe that Christ died and rose again are not absolutely essential to getting to heaven?

Not sure what the demons believe about the resurrection though. Scripture doesn’t say. Here is what James 2:19 says about this:
You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
 
Justasking4
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 Do we have to believe in Christ to get to heaven? Hm. I don't think so. When Christ was asked how many times we should forgive, he replied 7 x 70, his way of saying an infinite number of times.

  Now if we are expected to keep forgiving like that, can you imagine a merciful God condemning Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Unitarians or even atheists to eternal hell? That contradicts everything I believe about God. That turns Christianity into a harsh and judgemental religion - one that I could not embrace.

   I feel privileged to be a Christian - by birth and family upbringing. But how can we sit in judgement upon the billions who were raised in non-Christian faiths or no faith at all? That sort of pride and condemnation of others is contrary to the gospel of Christ. It certainly contradicts I Cor 13 - 'and the greatest of these is love.'!
 
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