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Bonnie
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Amen! And I’m with you on the coffee - black & strong & no sugar! Just going to get my 2nd cup right now.
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Monkey1976
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These statistics are vastly inflated and misinterpreted: thepubscout.com/2013/06/wacky-tobacky-the-lies-of-anti-smoking/ I’m not saying that everyone should go out and grab a pack of Marlboro Reds, but I - as a smoker - am getting a little sick of the constant bashing on something that I enjoy. I’ve been standing on a sidewalk next to heavy traffic only to have someone walk up to me and cough in my face. As if my cigarette was somehow worse than the 200 cars behind them. Rant over. Time for a smoke.
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Robert_Sock
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You’re subjecting your body to potentially great harm. You really ought to quit.These statistics are vastly inflated and misinterpreted: thepubscout.com/2013/06/wacky-tobacky-the-lies-of-anti-smoking/ I’m not saying that everyone should go out and grab a pack of Marlboro Reds, but I - as a smoker - am getting a little sick of the constant bashing on something that I enjoy. I’ve been standing on a sidewalk next to heavy traffic only to have someone walk up to me and cough in my face. As if my cigarette was somehow worse than the 200 cars behind them. Rant over. Time for a smoke.
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Monkey1976
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The fastest way to get a smoker to dig in their heels and want to light up immediately is to tell them “You really ought to quit”.
I’m “subjecting my body to potentially great harm” when driving, riding a roller coaster, eating fish, even simply getting out of bed. I roll my own cigarettes using unprocessed pipe tobacco, so I don’t have to worry about preservatives or the carpet glue used in factory-rolled smokes to meet the “fire safe” requirement. Saves me a great deal of money, too. When I have to buy a pack at the store, they make me physically ill and give me headaches. I really think that the danger isn’t so much the tobacco itself, but all of the other chemicals that are added to the cigarettes.
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fred_conty
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Monkey you said,
The fastest way to get a smoker to dig in their heels and want to light up immediately is to tell them “You really ought to quit”.
I agree and I empathize. But if noone tends the fire, it goes out.
May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.
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Monkey1976
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True. I know that I should quit, but I just don’t like how much misinformation is out there regarding smoking.
Since going to self-rolling, my health has actually improved considerably. One of the biggest poisons in store-bought cigarettes is formaldehyde. As formaldehyde doesn’t naturally occur in tobacco, where does it come from? The brown dye and paper used as filler in factory-produced cigarettes. The tube paper isn’t processed with formaldehyde (as far as I know), but almost all cigarette companies pad their products with some amount of dyed paper that looks and burns like dried tobacco. For low-end cigarettes, the paper content can be 50% or more. Even the “premium” brands have a paper content between 15% and 25%. By using natural, unflavored pipe tobacco, there is no filler - all I’m getting is the actual content of tobacco.
There’s also the issue of how the statistics for anti-smoking arguments are padded. If someone has ever - at any point in their life - either smoked a single cigarette or been around even one person who was smoking, any respiratory diseases are forever after marked as “smoking-related”.
West Virginia coal miner who retired after working for 40 years, smoked one cigarette when he was 16 and decided he didn’t like it gets lung cancer? Smoking related.
Nuclear fuel fabrication technician who limited himself to one cigarette per day, but was exposed to uranium particulates in an accident at work? The lung cancers are smoking-related.
Dockworker whose friend enjoyed a cigar when they went out for a drink after putting in 10 hours each day installing or removing asbestos? Smoking-related.
That the American Lung Association keeps using this “research” puts me in a position that even if/when I do choose to quit smoking, I will never support them, and do my best to educate those who do. I’m not saying that Marlboro, Winston-Salem, et. al. are innocent - far from it. I believe that they took the picture painted by the anti-smoking crusaders and realized they they could save money by making cigarettes be as unhealthy as they are claimed to be.
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Fairwinds
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exactly. I like my coffee the way I like my women. -]cold and bitter/-] hot, sweet and blonde.Amen! And I’m with you on the coffee - black & strong & no sugar! Just going to get my 2nd cup right now.
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Nikkey
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The Bible never directly mentions smoking. There are principles, however, that definitely apply to smoking. First, the Bible commands us not to allow our bodies to become “mastered” by anything. “Everything is permissible for me—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me—but I will not be mastered by anything” (1 Corinthians 6:12). Smoking is undeniably strongly addictive. Later in the same passage we are told, “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). Smoking is undoubtedly very bad for your health. Smoking has been proven to damage the lungs and the heart.
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Robert_Sock
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Sounds like you’re on the verge of falling into sin! Not something I want to read on CAF!
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Bonnie
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There is a similar connection between liver diseases and drinking alcohol. My mother took the pledge when she was in high school, so didn’t drink at all for years. In her 50s she had a glass of wine and found out she liked it. I think she may have had a dozen or so glasses of wine in her entire life. But she died of liver cancer, so people assumed she drank.
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Fairwinds
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why would you think that? Panasonic PT AX200U?
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Fairwinds
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if you can’t control a -]world of warcraft TV fishing/-] smoking habit, then don’t indulge. just don’t lecture me about it.
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fred_conty
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That was a nice response. But I still am concerned for all who have this habit. Not only from a health standpoint, but from a spiritual one as well.
When I smoked (I started at 5), I always had a guilty conscience even long before all the bad news about smoking came out. I just knew that what I was doing was wrong. But I justified it by telling myself that everyone was doing it. In fact, one year there were 51% of adults who smoked in the USA .
Anyway, I had a brother who died of lung cancer and he smoked a lot. He carried a coffee can in his car full of sand and used this as an ashtray because he got tired of empting out the little ashtray in the car.
I really wish you the best, and hope that someday Our dear Lord will bless you in a special way.
May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.
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mexolic
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A little off the topic, but does anyone remember candy cigarettes? I remember as a kid 40-45 years ago, I would buy candy cigarettes from the neighborhood store. The box was just like a real cigarette box. And inside candy shaped like cigarettes. It sure seemed cool then.
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Robert_Sock
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Why are you posting on this thread if you cannot take some constructive criticism based on the bible? What’s being said is quite germane to the topic being discussed.
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Lasting_faith
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There is a very good reason why The Bible do not mention smoking. I think smoking was “invented” around 1650 by Sir W.Raleigh, if my memory serves me right. I would be utterly surprised if I would read in The Bible that “thou shall not smoke”, it would lead to the question: “when was The BIble written?”
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Lasting_faith
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Yes, I remember them. Reckon you can’t find them anymore.
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