Why is the Catholic Church hated so much?

[JustaServant]

As a former Catholic - born in 1963, Catholic gradeschool, high school and nursing school (2 years) - I can tell you that due to the church’s defiance of the word of Jesus is the ultimate reason for the ‘hatred’. God calls us to love our enemy, which includes those who teach another gospel other than that of the 4 Gospels and all of the epistles, and unfortunately there are many examples of false teachings in the Catholic church. Following are a few examples :
(1) anyone who believes and follows Jesus Christ is a saint, we don’t have to ‘perform miracles’; (No one has to be ‘‘canonized’’)
(2) God’s grace (unmeritted, unearned favor) is sufficient, just ask Paul;
(3) pergatory is an unbiblical lie;
(4) the term “Holy Father” is reserved for God the Father ONLY;
(5) Christ died ONCE…FOR ALL;(NOT every at Mass)
(6) What part of ''It is finished" don’t you understand?;
(7) Galatians 3:16 - 29;
(8) Mary bore other children AFTER Jesus (see Mark 6: 1 - 3…PLEASE!!);
(9) The Bible, the inerrant, infallible Word of God Himself, is NOT the final authority of the Catholic church…?? (That’s one I cannot wrap my head around)…PLEASE read
2 Timothy 3:16 - 18…I cannot over-emphasize this;
(10) the 2nd Commandment in both Exodus 20 & Deuteronomy 5 is “”'You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them…",
but in the New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism that commandment is REMOVED…this is messing with the Word of GOD!!!
So, that is why Christians HATE the teachings of the Catholic church…NOT the people who follow it…we want them to come to see Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and to be part of His church!!
For His Glory!!!

Wow.
I imagine How to Win Friends and Influence people is not in your library?

 

[benedictus2]

I believe that you are right in concluding that a variety of reasons exist…I also wouldn’t use “hated”. It is too strong.

Bingo. To help the OPoster understand, an analogy might help. To non-Catholic Christians, the CC comes across like the fellow at the neighbourhood party who just can’t admit that he is wrong. Let’s call him Bob. Everyone else thinks that it is blatantly obvious that Bob is wrong. His wife Joy, (those Catholics who are lovingly dismissed as cafeteria Catholics b/c they don’t accept everything the CC teaches), has even whispered in his ear, “Honey, you are wrong.” Bob, however, refuses to admit that he could possibly have made any mistake. Some Catholics themselves come across a little like Bob’s 10 year old son Joey, who idealizes the Bob. Joey runs around telling the other neighbours how Bob is so incredible and how he is always right. If a neighbour dares to disagree with Joey and say that Bob erred, Joey calls that neighbour arrogant (for thinking that he could possibly know more than Bob) and perhaps even tells that neighbour that he is in league with Satan b/c he disagrees with Bob. Bob’s 12 year old daughter Mary wonders why the neighbours get a little tired of Bob and Joey.

The analogy does not apply.

The correct analogy goes like this:

Bob is right but everyone else wants to do wrong and Bob insists that they do right so they think that Bob is a stick in the mud.

Bob says you can’t do that it is against God - and he can prove it too - but everyone else just wants a happy go lucky life and just wants to do what they please even if it is contradictory to God’s will so they hate Bob. Bob is like the conscience they want to silence and so long as Bob speaks then their conscience keeps nagging at them.

Bob says we should enter through the narrow door, but everyone says to blast the narrow door.

But Christ said, blessed are you when people revile you for my sake. Your reward will be great in heaven.

 

[GreggAlvarez]

As a former Catholic - born in 1963, Catholic gradeschool, high school and nursing school (2 years) - I can tell you that due to the church’s defiance of the word of Jesus is the ultimate reason for the ‘hatred’. God calls us to love our enemy, which includes those who teach another gospel other than that of the 4 Gospels and all of the epistles, and unfortunately there are many examples of false teachings in the Catholic church. Following are a few examples :

1. Catholics are not your enemies.
2. While God does command us to love our enemies, even if we were your enemies, loving us is far from what you are actually doing. Falsifying our doctrine is not an act of love. We do not believe some of the stuff you put down.
3. There are no false teachings in the CC. Just thought I would fight extreme bias with miniscule bias.

(1) anyone who believes and follows Jesus Christ is a saint, we don’t have to ‘perform miracles’; (No one has to be ‘‘canonized’’)

Being canonized is not prerequisite to being considered a saint in Catholic theology. Read a Catholic book, like Knox, Hahn, or the Bible.

(2) God’s grace (unmeritted, unearned favor) is sufficient, just ask Paul;

Sufficient for what?

(3) pergatory is an unbiblical lie;

For starters, all lies are unbiblical. There is no such thing as “pergatory”. You want to be unreasonably literal. I can do that too.

(4) the term “Holy Father” is reserved for God the Father ONLY;

Now, where in the Bible does it say that? Nowhere. So much for Sola Scriptura.

(5) Christ died ONCE…FOR ALL;(NOT every at Mass)

Agreed.

(6) What part of ''It is finished" don’t you understand?;

What part of “we do understand” don’t you understand?

(7) Galatians 3:16 - 29;

Agreed. But my guess is that I probably do not agree with your interpretation, whatever it is.

(8) Mary bore other children AFTER Jesus (see Mark 6: 1 - 3…PLEASE!!);

No, she didn’t. No more pretexts allowed from now on.

(9) The Bible, the inerrant, infallible Word of God Himself, is NOT the final authority of the Catholic church…??

Could you please rephrase in a more cogent way?

(10) the 2nd Commandment in both Exodus 20 & Deuteronomy 5 is “”'You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them…",
but in the New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism that commandment is REMOVED…this is messing with the Word of GOD!!!

Well, not only are YOU deliberately disobeying the 2nd Commandment, but you are being a hypocrite. I will let you ponder on why that is the truth in accordance with your interpretation. So, for you to consider us as doing what you accuse us of doing, you must set those standards for yourself also. So, in order to accuse of this, you must first consider yourself a hypocrite.

So, that is why Christians HATE the teachings of the Catholic church…NOT the people who follow it…we want them to come to see Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and to be part of His church!!
For His Glory!!!

I do not hate her teachings, yet I am Christian. I do see Jesus as my Lord and Savior, even though I am the crappiest of His followers, I still do.
Therefore, your completely in the wrong here. Seems to be the trend you take in debating with Catholics; that is, to be wrong with what we think and believe.

 

[wisdomseeker]

The analogy does not apply.

The correct analogy goes like this:

Bob is right but everyone else wants to do wrong and Bob insists that they do right so they think that Bob is a stick in the mud.

Bob says you can’t do that it is against God - and he can prove it too - but everyone else just wants a happy go lucky life and just wants to do what they please even if it is contradictory to God’s will so they hate Bob. Bob is like the conscience they want to silence and so long as Bob speaks then their conscience keeps nagging at them.

Bob says we should enter through the narrow door, but everyone says to blast the narrow door.

But Christ said, blessed are you when people revile you for my sake. Your reward will be great in heaven.

What wonderfull post. thank you. that is exactly it. the lies want to silent the Truth and they use terms like arrogant and so forth. those who love the Truth would at least investigate those claims since only One Church makes such a claim.

 

[Radical]

The analogy does not apply.

The correct analogy goes like this:

Bob is right but everyone else wants to do wrong and Bob insists that they do right so they think that Bob is a stick in the mud.

…

see how it works Marybeloved? Bob’s daughter Mary asked the neighbours why they were tired of Bob and Joey. One neighbour gave his answer, but unfortunately little Joey was within earshot. Little Joey simply cannot help himself. If he overhears anyone say Bob is wrong, little Joey has to immediately jump in and shout, “My dad is right. He is always right, because…”

So just ask yourself: If you were one of those neighbours, would you be tired of Bob and Joey?

 

[wisdomseeker]

see how it works Marybeloved? Bob’s daughter Mary asked the neighbours why they were tired of Bob and Joey. One neighbour gave his answer, but unfortunately little Joey was within earshot. Little Joey simply cannot help himself. If he overhears anyone say Bob is wrong, little Joey has to immediately jump in and shout, “My dad is right. He is always right, because…”

So just ask yourself: If you were one of those neighbours, would you be tired of Bob and Joey?

I think that is how the pharisees felt about Jesus. that is right, that is why they hated Him so much.

 

[Radical]

There are so many things I could say about this terribly one-side analogy.

terribly one-sided? Actually, I could have made it much more so…I could have actually said that Bob was wrong. I could have mentioned some/all of Bob’s numerous indiscretions

Remember that Radical’s analogy is from the perspective of the neighbors,…

well, of course it is, given the question. You have just given Joey’s perspective.

Radical’s story and the Gospels make it pretty clear that there are those who will not give the Truth the light of day. They want those with the Truth (Jesus and the Catholic Church) to admit they are wrong.

…and this is just little Joey saying that if you don’t agree with Bob, then you are an enemy of the Truth (kinda like the “in league with Satan” thing in my analogy). For such a simple analogy, it actually works very well (IMHO)

 

[Marybeloved]

see how it works Marybeloved? Bob’s daughter Mary asked the neighbours why they were tired of Bob and Joey. One neighbour gave his answer, but unfortunately little Joey was within earshot. Little Joey simply cannot help himself. If he overhears anyone say Bob is wrong, little Joey has to immediately jump in and shout, “My dad is right. He is always right, because…”

So just ask yourself: If you were one of those neighbors, would you be tired of Bob and Joey?

Hello, Radical,

Your analogy is interesting. But Bob seems to be hated by quite a variety of people! Not just by his neighbors (non-Catholic Christians) over their disagreements about the right way to run the neighborhood/ or the correct neighborhood by-laws & traditions about which they think Bob is wrong (though they can’t seem to agree themselves on what exactly is the true/correct position- only that Bob is definitely wrong) while he insists that he’s right; but he’s also particularly hated even by the rival neighborhood who diss all the traditions & customs of the first neighborhood without flinching but appear to single Bob out as the embodiment of the first neighborhood and its ridiculous customs and focus disproportionate hate on him!

I guess my question is, the neighbors think Bob is dead wrong, Bob is convinced he’s right regardless, why is he thoroughly disliked while himself not seeming to dislike the others (whom he is convinced are wrong just as they are of him), but only maintaining that he’s right?

Peace!

 

[Radical]

Hello, Radical,

Your analogy is interesting.

thanks….(I’ll assume interesting is a good thing)

But Bob seems to be hated by quite a variety of people! Not just by his neighbors (non-Catholic Christians) over their disagreements about the right way to run the neighborhood/ or the correct neighborhood by-laws & traditions about which they think Bob is wrong (though they can’t seem to agree themselves on what exactly is the true/correct position- only that Bob is definitely wrong) while he insists that he’s right; but he’s also particularly hated even by the rival neighborhood who diss all the traditions & customs of the first neighborhood without flinching but appear to single Bob out as the embodiment of the first neighborhood and its ridiculous customs and focus disproportionate hate on him!

In the Canadian neighbourhood I don’t think Bob is singled out any more than other conservative Christians…all of which are fair game for criticism. The contrast here is how criticism of conservative Christianity is quite acceptable, but criticism of conservative Islam is often avoided. If you want to understand those outside of the neighbourhood better, I would suggest that you watch this debate from Intelligence Squared where the subject is: The CC is a force for good in the world. When I first came across this, I thought it would be such an easy win for the affirmative b/c of all the good the CC does….but that is not the way it played out with the audience. When you watch it, avoid any desire to try and justify the CC and just try and understand the other side’s point of view….They view homosexuality as being every bit as legitimate as heterosexuality and therefore, the CC is oppressive wrt its position on homosexuality. They view women as being equal in every way with men and therefore, the CC is oppressive wrt its position on women priests. They see nothing wrong with birth control and therefore, they see the CC position WRT birth control as needlessly contributing to disease and poverty.

I guess my question is, the neighbors think Bob is dead wrong, Bob is convinced he’s right regardless, why is he thoroughly disliked while himself not seeming to dislike the others (whom he is convinced are wrong just as they are of him), but only maintaining that he’s right?

A couple of things in response: First, I think you have neglected Bob’s rather recent past. Sure Bob has cleaned up his act lately, but it wasn’t that long ago that he was quite the nasty bully in the neighbourhood (ie burning people at the stake, inquisitions etc.)…Bob clearly disliked his neighbours and went on record that every other neighbour was damned to hell. Recently Bob has “clarified” that statement and has kinda reversed himself. The other thing is that Bob has let little Joey do a lot of his dirty work (ie St Bartholomew’s day massacre), but when the neighbours complain about the damage that Joey has done, Bob merely says, “Well, it wasn’t me. I never told him to do that. I’ll give Joey a stern talking to.” The neighbours think Bob should take more responsibility for Joey’s actions.

Second, (and now I’ll break from the analogy) consider how the CC comes across with its official statements. According to the CC, Protestant Churches aren’t real churches. Instead, they are merely ecclesiastical communities. Further, Protestants are called “separated brethren” b/c they are separated from the one true Church…they are separated doctrinally from the Truth. Compared to where the CC has been in the past, this is a very conciliatory position. Nevertheless, consider how you would feel if a Protestant Church approached your local Catholic Church as with this official statement:

*Hello Catholic Ecclesiastical Community of X. We would like to extend to you our hands in friendship and brotherhood. We treasure the fact that we worship the same Lord, however, we feel obliged to clarify our position so that there can be no misunderstanding and so that truth is proclaimed. You will note that we refer to you as our “unreformed brethren” b/c your doctrine is unreformed and still contains considerable error (and we know that those errors need to be eliminated before you can enjoy the fullness of the truth). We also don’t call your community a “church” b/c your priest and sacraments are not legitimate. Through friendship and interaction with us, we hope that your walk will become closer to the truth. In any event, we rejoice in the fact that, notwithstanding the deficiencies in your Ecclesiastical Community, it is possible for (some of) you to still be saved through a spiritual membership in our Church, the One True Church *

Tell me, what percentage of your congregation would find that arrogant and offensive?..keeping in mind that all I have really done is put the shoe on the other foot and have the Protestant Church saying about the CC what the CC says about Protestant Churches.

Peace.

 

[Ruth_Catherine]

There are so many things I could say about this terribly one-side analogy. (Yet, I still agree with it 100%. There is no reason why Bob should back down because he knows the Truth.)

But the only one that even Radical (the author-in-residence here) would not disagree with is this one. It would be an interesting exercise for everybody to insert Jesus’ name in the place of Bob’s and see how reminiscent of the Gospels it is. Perhaps Joey is loosely John the Baptist. Mary is the faithful disciples and Apostles. Joy is the disciples who left Jesus when they started disagreeing with Him. And the neighbors are those who just downright think He is blasphemous.

Remember that Radical’s analogy is from the perspective of the neighbors, so in this case, the perspective will be of those who disagree with Jesus. Strikingly similar stuff here… Even Radical’s one-sidedness, unfairness, and such…

Radical’s story and the Gospels make it pretty clear that there are those who will not give the Truth the light of day. They want those with the Truth (Jesus and the Catholic Church) to admit they are wrong.

Very good. This is so true.

 

[Marybeloved]

*Hello Catholic Ecclesiastical Community of X. We would like to extend to you our hands in friendship and brotherhood. We treasure the fact that we worship the same Lord, however, we feel obliged to clarify our position so that there can be no misunderstanding and so that truth is proclaimed. You will note that we refer to you as our “unreformed brethren” b/c your doctrine is unreformed and still contains considerable error (and we know that those errors need to be eliminated before you can enjoy the fullness of the truth). We also don’t call your community a “church” b/c your priest and sacraments are not legitimate. Through friendship and interaction with us, we hope that your walk will become closer to the truth. In any event, we rejoice in the fact that, notwithstanding the deficiencies in your Ecclesiastical Community, it is possible for (some of) you to still be saved through a spiritual membership in our Church, the One True Church *

This is quite funny .

Tell me, what percentage of your congregation would find that arrogant and offensive?..keeping in mind that all I have really done is put the shoe on the other foot and have the Protestant Church saying about the CC what the CC says about Protestant Churches.

True…but I still say that the statement is a lot kinder than “whore of Babylon” “anti-Christ” “Babylon mystery religion” “cult” “unsaved” “not Christians at all” “idolaters” etc.

And about the ugly past? Haven’t most people in the neighborhood behaved badly in the past too? (Forgive me, but I’ve gotten too attached to the analogy ) Why is it that everyone seems to only keep a record of Bob’s sins alone and then displays a tendency to inflate them?

Peace!

 

[Radical]

True…but I still say that the statement is a lot kinder than “whore of Babylon” “anti-Christ” “Babylon mystery religion” “cult” “unsaved” “not Christians at all” “idolaters” etc.

Agreed. Those slurs are of a different category altogether.

And about the ugly past? Haven’t most people in the neighborhood behaved badly in the past too?

Indeed they have…though there might be a difference or two. I don’t know that any Protestant group has had a history of tolerating openly corrupt leadership to the same degree as the CC. I believe that there are a few Protestant groups that don’t have any where near the same amount of blood on their hands. That said, as a group that is supposed to enjoy the Holy Spirit to a degree far exceeding that of any one else, it is rather disappointing to see how little Christians (and not just Catholics) have distinguished themselves in the last 2000 years. With God in us and for us, shouldn’t we have done much better ? (myself included)

(Forgive me, but I’ve gotten too attached to the analogy )

I have had some fun with it too.

Why is it that everyone seems to only keep a record of Bob’s sins alone and then displays a tendency to inflate them?

Bob has the biggest house and largest family in the neighbourhood and so draws a lot of attention to himself. Also, not all of the other neighbours claim that they never make a mistake. That characteristic of Bob’s also draws attention. If a church is going to claim that it is the one true Church, then it should be an obvious cut above all of the other contenders (especially when those other contenders are, supposedly, not even true churches). Bob’s superiority in relation to his neighbours should be obvious to all and shouldn’t be something only seen by Bob and Joey.

Peace

 

[benedictus2]

see how it works Marybeloved? Bob’s daughter Mary asked the neighbours why they were tired of Bob and Joey. One neighbour gave his answer, but unfortunately little Joey was within earshot. Little Joey simply cannot help himself. If he overhears anyone say Bob is wrong, little Joey has to immediately jump in and shout, “My dad is right. He is always right, because…”

So just ask yourself: If you were one of those neighbours, would you be tired of Bob and Joey?

Not of one wants the truth. But of course, most prefer the devils lies because it is easy.

We want someone who says that we are doing okay even when we are disobeying God. Which is of course what the devil does. He eggs us on when we are on the path to ruin becuase heaven forbid that we should repent and thus be saved.

Unfortunately, those who hate Bob and Little is exactly in that position. “Don’t tell me I am disobeying God. I want to do what I want and when I want it. To heck with God’s will.” So they hate Bob and Joey.

But deep inside, they know Bob and Joey are right. And if they will take a little bit of time away from the evil one, they will see the truth and they will repent. But what the evil one promises is pleasure right here and now. The devil panders to their ego so they give in. The devil says you have the right to decide what is true. You can make up your own truth. Forget about the Church that my enemy set up. So they think they are fine and don’t repent. Deeper and deeper they sink into the clutches of enemy but the enemy is so crafty when it comes to deception so this state is kept hidden from them. The enemy makes them believe they are okay.

So more and more they hate the Church because she dares to tell it like it is. But they want the illusion of freedom. Not the truth. Truth is uncomfortable so they want to silince the truth. They want to be rid of the last bastion of truth, in a world gone mad with obeisance to the self.

 

[benedictus2]

I think that is how the pharisees felt about Jesus. that is right, that is why they hated Him so much.

Exactly! Those who hated Christ will hate His Church.

 

[benedictus2]

I don’t know that any Protestant group has had a history of tolerating openly corrupt leadership to the same degree as the CC.

No, they are only for tolerating corrupt teaching. Lies.

Christ said I am the Truth. When you opt for the lie, you follow the father of lies. And yes, he does make you feel better. He will agree with every depraved, evil, untrue tendencies. He’ll egg you on. You think this is great so you follow and defend his lies. And you drown own the Truth.

 

[vera_dicere]

I understand it was that wonderful chap, Archbishop Fulton Sheen, who made comment that there aren’t too many people who truly hate teh Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they think is the Church.

I think you will find people who “hate” the Church for a variety of reasons, all based on their misunderstandings, everything from not Her teachings of chastidy, Life, the sancity of marriage.

I also think a lot of people who don’t neccesarily hate teh church, but just don’t want to have anything to do with it, dislike authority. Every non-catholic I know and speak with, eventually ends up ranting about the Pope and obeying him.

 

[GreggAlvarez]

terribly one-sided? Actually, I could have made it much more so…I could have actually said that Bob was wrong. I could have mentioned some/all of Bob’s numerous indiscretions

And therefore increasing the amount of one-sidedness by failing to mention any of the neighbors indiscretions. While they are less public, they should still be put out in the open.

You are just adding salt to your intellectual wounds here, my friend.

well, of course it is, given the question. You have just given Joey’s perspective.

Actually, according to your story, I am not taking 100% of Joey’s perspective. Let me tell you why.

This is what you said about Joey, “If a neighbour dares to disagree with Joey and say that Bob erred, Joey calls that neighbour arrogant (for thinking that he could possibly know more than Bob) and perhaps even tells that neighbour that he is in league with Satan b/c he disagrees with Bob.”

1. I never called you or any other non-Catholic arrogant for disagreeing with the Church. Of course, people disagree. That fact alone does not make them arrogant. Eve outside of religion, disagreement should not be cause for calling someone arrogant.
2. Even if a person thinks another is wrong, that does not mean the other person “knows more”. That is just a contemporary faux pas that is a pet peeve. If my nephew corrected me on football (which he did today, funny story), that does not mean he knows more than me. That just means the person disagrees. Disagreements are not measurements or comparisons of knowledge.
3. You did say perhaps, so this one can slide, but I do not think every person who disagrees with Catholics is in a league with Satan. A true follower of Christ, no matter how flawed his theology, is far from being a league with Satan.

So, there. My perspective only parallels Joey’s in that I am in total agreement with the Catholic Church and rightly so.

Does that clear up some misconceptions?

…and this is just little Joey saying that if you don’t agree with Bob, then you are an enemy of the Truth (kinda like the “in league with Satan” thing in my analogy). For such a simple analogy, it actually works very well (IMHO)

Actually, that was me saying that the neighbors have their own agenda to run, and giving Bob an objective, fair hearing was certainly not on it.

I agree this analogy works pretty well. You fit the neighbors (which you do not deny) and I fit the version of Joey I gave above (certainly not the Joey you wrongly think I am).

 

[GreggAlvarez]

see how it works Marybeloved? Bob’s daughter Mary asked the neighbours why they were tired of Bob and Joey. One neighbour gave his answer, but unfortunately little Joey was within earshot. Little Joey simply cannot help himself. If he overhears anyone say Bob is wrong, little Joey has to immediately jump in and shout, “My dad is right. He is always right, because…”

Well, little did the neighbor notice he/she was in Bob’s house not only saying he is wrong, but also not giving any adequate reasons why they believe that Bob is wrong.

So just ask yourself: If you were one of those neighbours, would you be tired of Bob and Joey?

To whomever you asked this question,

This is what is called a “false dilemma”.

But to answer the question, I would be tired of myself if I were one of the neighbors. Hopefully, nobody will cleverly change my words around to make everybody think I would be tired of Joey.

 

[GreggAlvarez]

Indeed they have…though there might be a difference or two. I don’t know that any Protestant group has had a history of tolerating openly corrupt leadership to the same degree as the CC. I believe that there are a few Protestant groups that don’t have any where near the same amount of blood on their hands. That said, as a group that is supposed to enjoy the Holy Spirit to a degree far exceeding that of any one else, it is rather disappointing to see how little Christians (and not just Catholics) have distinguished themselves in the last 2000 years. With God in us and for us, shouldn’t we have done much better ? (myself included)

Here is something that most Protestants have misconceptions about the Church. They assume that the actions of the people in the Church are actually actions of the Catholic Church. So, they say, “The Catholic Church has committed heinous crimes such as the Inquisition” as if the people are not the problem, but an institution is (not to mention God’s institution, but that is irrelevant to my point here).

I might as well equate Jimmy Swaggart’s crimes as Baptist crimes. Or Jerry Sendusky’s pedophilia to the Penn State institution. It would be ridiculous to say “Penn State has committed sexual offense to teens and pre-teens.”

So, the moral of my story is this: the Catholics are responsible for their sins, not the institution to which they are part of. The bad popes in the past were Catholics. They were the ones who sinned. NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Just like Church of Christ, Baptist Church, Lutheranism, etc… Those do not sin, the people of which they are a part of are the sinners. So, it is unreasonable to say the Catholic Church did those things.

 

[JustaServant]

Many times what people forget is that some people love to ‘hate’. They get a kind of high out of it. So they will look for reasons to hate the object they despise. It doesn’t have to be a Church, it can be a family member, a neighbor, a co-worker.
Hate, if left unchecked and not repented of, will do physical as well as mental and spiritual damage.
I’ve heard people say ‘well God hates’. What God ‘hates’ are things that oppose His holiness. His ‘hate’ is not stained with sin. Human hate, is stained with sin because we are fallen creatures. To invoke God in our hatred is to find a ‘holy’ excuse for our sinful expression. God’s ‘hate’ works toward redemption, not destruction. Human hate only wishes to divide, ridicule and destroy in an attempt to prove Genesis 3 correct: we can be as God.