Why is the Catholic Church hated so much?

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Roy5 said:
I doubt if many people hate the Catholic Church.

…It’s important, however, to remember that anti-Catholicism today usually means disagreement with the religion and not prejudice against Catholic people. That may not always have been true but is today.

… But again, few people hate Catholicism. .
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You make these statements as if you have data to back up your claim. There are probably millions of people who just don’t care.

But there are also millions, I would venture to say by now, who hate the Church. They were taught to. They have been systematically “brainwashed” is the only word that seems appropriate.

They have been told we inserted passages into the Bible to corrupt the teaching of Jesus Christ. They have been told that there were early groups of “true Christians” that the Church murdered to keep the Word from us and that modern Christians with the Truth have survived and now are coming out protected by the Holy Spirit to finally bring Jesus Truth to the world because the 2nd Coming is immanent. The have been told that the Church seeks world domination and to be the world government. They have been told that the Church comprises a secret brotherhood of men who attack and corrupt innocent children.

Don’t kid yourself. They hate us. And some of them would be happy to kill us. This isn’t a philosophical/theological disagreement. This is organized, widespread and dangerous.
 
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I doubt if many people hate the Catholic Church.

…It’s important, however, to remember that anti-Catholicism today usually means disagreement with the religion and not prejudice against Catholic people. That may not always have been true but is today.

… But again, few people hate Catholicism. . **

They probably fear more than they hate. this fear turns into hate though. They hate what the Church stands for, the Truth. darkness hate the Truth. the world loves darkness and do not want to see the Truth, Jesus HImself says this.

that is why so many continuously fight against the Church and try to shut her up. they find arrogant that the Church could actually say that she can give man the Truth.

protestantism is doing a great diservice to God. they dont hold the Truth and tells the world that the CC doesnt have the Truth. So, if no one knows the Truth, why would the world believe in God?
 
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. “If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. “Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. “But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me." John 13:18-21

“A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. “It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household " Matthew 10:24-25

“These things I have spoken to you so that you may be kept from stumbling. “They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God. “These things they will do because they have not known the Father or Me. “But these things I have spoken to you, so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you of them. These things I did not say to you at the beginning, because I was with you". John 16:1-4

I believe the reason is that the Catholic church is the single greatest representative of Jesus Christ in the world today and so inspires hatred among those who either do not know the Lord or who refuse to learn the fullness of truth. Once upon a time I was one of both of those groups and I am truly thankful the Lord led me to my heavenly home on earth.
 
Roy5 said:
I doubt if many people hate the Catholic Church.
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One small example that happened to me recently:
My beloved long-time neighbor was on her death bed in the hospital and I visited her everyday. Her sister and I got along great and I would bring along my KJV Bible and read it to my neighbor (KJV because she was a member of the Baptist church to which I used to belong). All went well until the day I mentioned I had to hurry to get to church (around 8 in the morning on a weekday). The sister looked puzzled and asked “What does (my old church) had going on this early?”. I replied I was no longer a member there but had converted and become a Catholic. She visibly froze and I bid her farewell and left. I went to visit my neighbor the next day and was told I was no longer allowed to see her by order of her sister and the sister told my neighbor’s neice it was because I am a Catholic and “you know how those people are”.

And just try walking around in a Walmart down here with a visible crucifix, you will get comments and/or hostile stares. One woman was smiling at me and the antics of my sweet little two year old right up until she looked down and saw my crucifix, then she glared and turned away. I could go on but I won’t.
 
that saddens me greatly course i get how you feel just started going to rcia myself posted it on facebook didnt expect people to react the way they did i had thought a lot of them as friends
 
GreggAlvarez said:
Hey Bohm,

I think you would agree that “many” and “most” are different words that have different functions, the former having to do with number and the latter with percentage compared to the whole.

With that said, nobody is arguing that most people are anti-Catholic. To my recollection, nobody even said that here (I could be wrong). If they are, shame on them, for that is certainly not true. That you think we think that on here is itself a myth.

What we do know is that many people are anti-Catholics. Even if the number is almost negligible compared to the population. If only 500 people, that is still many. If only 50 people, that is still many. But I would venture to say that there are more than 500 anti-Catholics in this world.

What may have confused you (rightly so) is that someone may have said “most people are anti-Catholics because…” I think what they are trying to say is “most anti-Catholics are that way because…” There is a fine line there in the former statement that can be easily and unknowingly distorted by the unsuspecting person.

Thanks for giving us the chance to clarify though. Many people are anti-Catholic, but certainly not “most” people.
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I would also like add. As Scott & Kimberly Hahn so eloquently put it in thier great book “Rome Sweet Home” Many people that are anti-catholic, are actually opposed to something that realy isnt even true…Many people have been taught that the Catholic church is either this or that, but do not ACTUALLY know the truth. Forgive me for paraphrasing.

By the way, I would reccomend this book to anyone. It is fantastic!👍
 
** I come from a mixed Catholic-Protestant heritage** and hope that helps me understand both camps. It certainly makes me ecumenical. This Tuesday, for example, the Thanksgiving community service will be held at a local Catholic church when Protestant, Jewish, Muslim and others will help lead the service. I strongly approve. Religion should be a bridge rather than a barrier.

** Let me try to explain why at least some Protestants are skeptical of the Catholic Church** by noting two ancestral experiences among my Protestant forebearers. One family was about to be tried for heresy in Ghent, Belgium. They had become Calvinists. They fled that very night and ended up in Britain, then in colonial New England. Another family of ancestors became Protestant in a small Quebec town, were totally ostracized by the larger community and finally immigrated to the USA. These families (and others) carried these scars with them. They became resentful of the Catholic Church - and fearful as well.
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My avid Protestant (Baptist) grandmother used to voice her feelings occasionally** - when I would ask her opinion. She was ready to explain why she was suspicious of Catholicism. She would cite the “Syllabus of Errors” issued by Pius IX which sharply condemned democracy, including the separation of church and state. She was old enough to be quite familiar with it. She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics. She actually feared a Catholic majority and a Quebec-like theocracy. This sort of sentiment can go from generation to generation. As most readers know, over the past 20-30 years Quebec has gone from one of the most religious regions of the world to one of the least. The Catholic Church in a town where my grandmother once has lived is up for sale.
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Now, in reading CAF postings, I find what seems to be considerable hatred of Protestantism.** Is that any less wrong than hatred of Catholicism? Strong disagreement is one thing. Hatred is quite another. I find that most Protestants I know - and Catholics, too - are ready to set aside the pettiness of the past and join in their mutual service to Christ. Alleluia!
God bless Catholics, Protestants, and people of every creed, culture, color and country.
 
Roy5 said:
** I come from a mixed Catholic-Protestant heritage** and hope that helps me understand both camps. It certainly makes me ecumenical. This Tuesday, for example, the Thanksgiving community service will be held at a local Catholic church when Protestant, Jewish, Muslim and others will help lead the service. I strongly approve. Religion should be a bridge rather than a barrier.

** Let me try to explain why at least some Protestants are skeptical of the Catholic Church** by noting two ancestral experiences among my Protestant forebearers. One family was about to be tried for heresy in Ghent, Belgium. They had become Calvinists. They fled that very night and ended up in Britain, then in colonial New England. Another family of ancestors became Protestant in a small Quebec town, were totally ostracized by the larger community and finally immigrated to the USA. These families (and others) carried these scars with them. They became resentful of the Catholic Church - and fearful as well.
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My avid Protestant (Baptist) grandmother used to voice her feelings occasionally** - when I would ask her opinion. She was ready to explain why she was suspicious of Catholicism. She would cite the “Syllabus of Errors” issued by Pius IX which sharply condemned democracy, including the separation of church and state. She was old enough to be quite familiar with it. She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics. She actually feared a Catholic majority and a Quebec-like theocracy. This sort of sentiment can go from generation to generation. As most readers know, over the past 20-30 years Quebec has gone from one of the most religious regions of the world to one of the least. The Catholic Church in a town where my grandmother once has lived is up for sale.
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Now, in reading CAF postings, I find what seems to be considerable hatred of Protestantism.** Is that any less wrong than hatred of Catholicism? Strong disagreement is one thing. Hatred is quite another. I find that most Protestants I know - and Catholics, too - are ready to set aside the pettiness of the past and join in their mutual service to Christ. Alleluia!
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  God bless Catholics, Protestants, and people of every creed, culture, color and country.
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hate for protestants i don’t hate them but the more i talk to them the more sadness wells up inside me so many of my former "friends have turned on me for joining the catholic church they act like im taking the bible and twisting it to fit catholisim when in fact if anyone is bible based i would say its Catholics

working with protestants is good but i feel that we should try to bring them in to Gods church
i look at it like this if you want a glimpse of Christianity go to protestant churches when you ready for the full thing you’ll end up coming to the catholic church

i don’t hate protestants i feel sorry for them and pray that God will lift the veil from their eyes
 
Roy5 said:
** She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics. .**
I would not agree with burning people at the stake because they were Protestant.
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** She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics.

hummm… heretics needs to be stopped before they spread heresies and lose many souls. Jesus HImself said that if they dont listen to the Church that the Church should treat them as a tax collector an anathem. this is God’s command and we should obey.**
 
wisdomseeker said:
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** She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics.

hummm… heretics needs to be stopped before they spread heresies and lose many souls. Jesus HImself said that if they dont listen to the Church that the Church should treat them as a tax collector an anathem. this is God’s command and we should obey.**

Yey! Sooo we can burn the tax collectors then? 😃
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Andromedus said:
Yey! Sooo we can burn the tax collectors then? 😃
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“But if the Church recognizes the freedom of conscience of the individual in his innermost heart, if the individual is free, at the risk of his salvation, to refuse the faith, it does not follow that he can propagate his errors and thus lead other souls to hell. So, the Church respects the freedom of conscience of individuals, but not the freedom of expression of false doctrines.”

from the article
 
from just the little bit i have red about Pius V seems like he saved the church and he was a grand inquisitor seems to me like the Inquisition might have saved the church but ill finish reading before i give a definite answer on my feelings
 
wisdomseeker said:
“But if the Church recognizes the freedom of conscience of the individual in his innermost heart, if the individual is free, at the risk of his salvation, to refuse the faith, it does not follow that he can propagate his errors and thus lead other souls to hell. So, the Church respects the freedom of conscience of individuals, but not the freedom of expression of false doctrines.”

from the article
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So an Eastern Orthodox priest is not free to preach in his Church that the creed should be said without the filioque?
 
Roy5 said:
** I come from a mixed Catholic-Protestant heritage** and hope that helps me understand both camps. It certainly makes me ecumenical. This Tuesday, for example, the Thanksgiving community service will be held at a local Catholic church when Protestant, Jewish, Muslim and others will help lead the service. I strongly approve. Religion should be a bridge rather than a barrier.

** Let me try to explain why at least some Protestants are skeptical of the Catholic Church** by noting two ancestral experiences among my Protestant forebearers. One family was about to be tried for heresy in Ghent, Belgium. They had become Calvinists. They fled that very night and ended up in Britain, then in colonial New England. Another family of ancestors became Protestant in a small Quebec town, were totally ostracized by the larger community and finally immigrated to the USA. These families (and others) carried these scars with them. They became resentful of the Catholic Church - and fearful as well.
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My avid Protestant (Baptist) grandmother used to voice her feelings occasionally** - when I would ask her opinion. She was ready to explain why she was suspicious of Catholicism. She would cite the “Syllabus of Errors” issued by Pius IX which sharply condemned democracy, including the separation of church and state. She was old enough to be quite familiar with it. She also was enough of a student of religion to know, for example, that St. Thomas Aquinas, while a great mind, also called for the execution of heretics. She actually feared a Catholic majority and a Quebec-like theocracy. This sort of sentiment can go from generation to generation. As most readers know, over the past 20-30 years Quebec has gone from one of the most religious regions of the world to one of the least. The Catholic Church in a town where my grandmother once has lived is up for sale.
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Now, in reading CAF postings, I find what seems to be considerable hatred of Protestantism.** Is that any less wrong than hatred of Catholicism? Strong disagreement is one thing. Hatred is quite another. I find that most Protestants I know - and Catholics, too - are ready to set aside the pettiness of the past and join in their mutual service to Christ. Alleluia!
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  God bless Catholics, Protestants, and people of every creed, culture, color and country.
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Of course the heretics want to propagate their erros and wants the right to do without any punishment. But the worst punishment is the loss of the soul but heretics dont understand this. the enemy of God uses people to do his will instead of God’s ways.
 
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