Why is the mantilla (specifically) so popular among US traditional Catholics?

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Ah! The baby wouldn’t go for that. But I have been thinking of popping a little crocheted cap on her. It has a pink rose on the front… 🤔:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
It is much easier on an adult that doesn’t squirm.
 
I think it is really great to see veiled women, because it shows their deep respect for Our Lord. When one considers that the Orthodox Christian women still veil, it makes sense that Catholic women—who belong to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, should as well.
 
So, are you saying that women that don’t wear a veil do not show “deep respect for God?”
 
The Catholic Church does not require covering one’s head at Mass. It was abrogated in the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which is what faithful Catholic’s follow. If one chooses to cover her head with a veil, a hat, a scarf, or a piece of Kleenex, that’s fine, but it does not make one lack a deep respect for Our Lord if one does not.
You are quite right, nor do I have issue with women who do not cover their heads—I know no women, none at my parish who do so and yet they are very pious.
 
So, are you saying that women that don’t wear a veil do not show “deep respect for God?”
No, I am not. I simply think it is a sign that they do show deep respect. I have got no problem with non-veiled women, especially as the revised Code of Canon Law notes that women need not cover at Mass.
 
Well, you can’t have it both ways.
I think it is really great to see veiled women, because it shows their deep respect for Our Lord.
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So, are you saying that women that don’t wear a veil do not show “deep respect for God?”
No, I am not. I simply think it is a sign that they do show deep respect.
🤔 If wearing one shows deep respect, how does not wearing one show deep respect as well?
 
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🤔 If wearing one shows deep respect, how does not wearing one show deep respect as well?
One can have deep respect for something without necessarily showing it. I can have deep respect for my parish priest without kissing his hand before Mass, but on the other hand kissing his hand would be a sign of the deep respect I have.
 
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Hmm maybe the right sentence should be

Wearing a veil is a sufficient but not necessary condition of holiness.

It’s like being a father is a sufficient but not necessary condition of being male.
 
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If you really want to confuse people, ask how to keep a mantilla on a shaved head. I’ve kept my hair buzzed down flat for like 3 years now.
Oh, that’s simple. I know a Rabbi who’s as bald as a billiard ball; he keeps his yarmulke on with double-stick tape and it looks like he’s defying gravity.
 
I know, it’s kind of a tricky situation.

Yes, wearing a mantilla is a visible sign of respect for God.
So is praying a rosary with rosary beads.
So are statues and stained glass windows.
So is venerating a crucifix.
And a whole bunch of other things.

BUT a person who doesn’t wear a head covering, doesn’t use rosary beads while praying, has a church which doesn’t have statues or stained glass, etc can be equally respectful of God.

Of course we all know that some people are just about ‘the outward appearance’ for their own personal satisfaction.

BUT we also know that sometimes actually the ‘outward appearance’ is not for personal satisfaction but for showing that ‘respect’.

And we really cannot, and should not, be determining the heart of another person based on ‘appearance’.

I’ll give an example. Suppose you’re a young woman attending an outdoor wedding of a not particularly religious friend (and let’s make it outside COVID times). You’re Catholic, and you choose to wear to the wedding a crucifix necklace and a small ‘choose life’ pin (like the ‘precious feet’). You wear them because you always wear them, as to you nothing is more important than your Catholic faith and your devotion to the pro-life movement.

You could, of course, have those very same feelings without wearing a visible crucifix or the pins, but the fact is, that those visible signs ‘show’ what is otherwise hidden. And they can provoke not only ‘good’ attention but ‘bad’ attention. Perhaps another woman at the wedding had an abortion and sees the precious feet pin and starts haranguing you about how ‘hateful’ the anti choice people are. Perhaps you get sneers and jeers sent your way about ‘genocidal cults’ from militant atheists. You would have avoided the ‘bad attention’ had you not chosen to put a visible sign of your belief out there. In this world, that can be dangerous. But it could also lead the young women who had an abortion into talking with you about Rachel’s Vineyard and lead to her healing. It could make the older man who had left the church 40 years ago start remembering the prayers of his youth and return to confession. Again, these ‘good reactions’ would not have occurred without the visible sign.

So it seems sometimes God can call us to be a more visible sign. . .and sometimes we don’t know what the reactions could be. It might seem as if we’re constantly misinterpreted or if the reactions are all bad. . .but we don’t know the whole picture. We can trust God and hope. . .and again, not ‘assume the worst’ of others.
 
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I have an alligator clip sewn into mine. It should work with all but the shortest of hair.
Also useful if you need to connect an extra battery!

😱 🤣 :roll_eyes:
If your hair is too short or fine to work with a pin, comb or clip, then the best option
I dunno. Duct tape is always the top option!

🤣 🤯
A chapel cap won’t stay in place unless I secure it on my head with a bobby pin
there’s a part of me that wants to say this is why only women cover this way in church . . . the natural guy solution would involve a rivet gun, which would be wrong in oh-so-many ways . . .
I love it! So how do you keep it on?! I use wig clips but I have hair. I’m intrigued by your situation & want to know what you’re doing so I can put a teeny mantilla on my bald baby. 😄
Since you probably won’t go the rivet route, there’s always velcro . . . they used it when my first born was premature with jaundice and was kept under heat lamps. A spot on each temple, and the visor to protect the eyes attached.[btw, I asked for a sharpy, and the confused nurse handed me one. I drew sunglasses on hers. A few years later, they all have sunglasses, and noone ever paid me a royalty!]

Or, only half tongue in cheek, a touch of syrup should be sticky enough and easily wash off . . .
 
That and I have yet to figure out how a polyester mantilla actually stays on your head and not the floor. I tend to keep very short hair so I can’t pin them either.
Normally I use 1 bobby pin but use 2 occasionally. 1 on my crown like this ( - ) and 1 on my forehead like this ( | ). Lmk if that works for you.
 
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Bravo! 👏👏❤️❤️❤️

15+ years ago, I was invited to an Orthodox Baptism/Chrismation/First Communion. The lady who invited me plus many of the other ladies wore veils, hats or head scarves.
 
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This is what the TLM in our area has posted:

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@Sarcelle, the retreat house I used to attend has this as well.
 
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Normally I use 1 bobby pin but use 2 occasionally. 1 on my crown like this ( - ) and 1 on my forehead like this ( | ). Lmk if that works for you.
I think we have different definitions of “very short” here. I’m talking at most a half inch of hair if it’s been a while.
Is it forbidden to wear a mantilla with slacks? Are mantillas only mean to be worn with skirts or dresses?

I heard of women being accosted by church busybodies because they were wearing a mantilla but not wearing a skirt or dress.
I wore my new mantilla with actual men’s slacks tonight. Given how quarantine is going, I’m just glad I found something clean to wear, nevermind pants versus skirt! It’s a TLM in the evenings, quite well attended, and it’s very common to see women with pants and a mantilla.
 
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Very informative.

I will not go to this mass since I do not own or wear skirts or dresses.
 
Admittedly it’s a bit much. To attend the TLM, I have to drive for an hour. I live in a rural area and am unmarried. If I get into a car accident, I don’t want to be getting out of my car and dealing with everything while wearing a dress and dress shoes. So I wear (nice) jeans and closed shoes. Unless these guys are going to drive out to my car accident and scoop me out of the wreckage, I don’t want to hear how my clothes are not respectful to God. That just tells me, “We don’t care how far you came here or where you came from, you’re not dressed well enough for our Mass”.
 
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