Why no restrictions on drinking?

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It’s permissible to do either. I don’t receive the Precious Blood cause I ain’t drinking from something that 30 people touched 😖
 
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Alcohol has basically only one purpose…So the purpose is just to get intoxicated and to have a feeling of merry and happiness.
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I have heard of alcoholics anonymous but I have not heard of meat-eaters anonymous or of vegetarians anonymous or of milk drinkers anonymous, or of tea drinkers anonymous, etc. Alcohol is a dangerous drug and alcoholism is a dangerous disease. According to the CDC : Excessive alcohol consumption cost the U.S. $223.5 billion in 2006 alone.

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Heavy Drinking Costs the U.S. $223.5 Billion Annually: CDC | TIME.com

Excessive alcohol consumption cost the U.S. $223.5 billion in 2006 alone, and nearly half of that burden was borne by the government, according to a new study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
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Yes, I think you are absolutely right and the others here are wrong. If we are asked to abstain from meat during Lent, then there is no reason why we should not be asked to refrain from drinking most alcoholic beverages such as beer, whisky and vodka during periods of fasting. Perhaps there could be an exception for a small and limited amount of wine at restricted occasions such as meals, etc., since Jesus did drink wine at these occasions.
 
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AlNg said:
I have heard of alcoholics anonymous but I have not heard of meat-eaters anonymous
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But you’ve heard of Weight Watchers. That’s the more accurate corollary—of course alcohol can be a problem. So can anything not used in moderation.
 

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by [Hilaire Belloc

Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine,
There’s laughter and dancing and good red wine.
At least I’ve always found it so.
Benedicamus Domino!
 
A good Belgian Tripel explains how Belgian Trappists manage to survive Lent in that cold, damp country.
 
Fasting or limitation of food intake has long been something done by Catholics during the Lenten season and at other times.
We all eat food. Many do not partake in alcoholic beverages.
 
JulianN said:
But you’ve heard of Weight Watchers. That’s the more accurate corollary
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Why do you suppose that you have to be over 18 years old to buy vodka, but there is no such age restriction on buying carrots, apples or cupcakes?
 
So a bit of history may help you understand better. In antiquity water was not potable like we have now flowing from our taps today. Most water was down right unhealthy to drink and many died of dysentery. One way of rendering water safe for drinking was to add some alcohol to it to sterilize it. People knew this and did not know that boiling it would also sterilize it.
So if you prohibit the use of alcohol for any reason you probably condemn some people to death.
Now drunkenness is a sin so no point there. Hope this helps you.
 
joseie said:
Thanks-AlbMagno; Susanna &AINg for saving my face. Alcohol(including beer ) drinkers:Pl.continue your habits if you really do not feel any guilty conscience but don’t try to sell the idea that it is for some thing other than getting an intoxication feeling or get intoxicated.The hollowness of the argument of the drinkers that it is good for health is exposed by the simple fact that no doctor ever recommend it for non drinkers.If at all there is any benifit it is more than compensated by its ill effects.
In Bible you can see that drinks/wine is always associated with getting intoxicated and enjoyment.In the first miracle of Jesus listen to the words said by the chief steward after tasting.The purpose for which the wine is used not only there but everywhere is clear from those words.
Any way, even if the church has not stipulated so ,it is only appropriate to keep away from alcohol at least during lent.If not possible ok,but don’t justify citing some invalid reasons.
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Wrong - there are numerous studies showing that red wine especially is rich in antioxidants and that moderate drinkers do better (at least in relation to cardiovascular disease and complications of Alzheimers) than non-drinkers. Possibly doctors should recommend it if they don’t.

And we see St Paul in scripture recommending that Timothy take a little wine for his health, as well as Jesus and the Apostles who drink on a number of occasions with zero issues of intoxication.

And since WHEN is enjoyment wrong? Jesus specifically said that He came so that our joy may increase.
 
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You have almost come to my side!Enjoy,no harm,no prohibition.But is it not better to enjoy less during lent? That is only my point.
 
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A Baptist friend once told me, with a very straight face, that Christ actually turned water into grape juice without a trace of that pesky sinful alcohol… it all came down to translation issues…
 
No.It was a strong wine capable of intoxication.Read the miracle fully.
 
I know. Pasteurized grape juice didn’t exist yet either- so all grape juice would naturally ferment. I was simply reporting what this Baptist believed.
 
joseie said:
You have almost come to my side!Enjoy,no harm,no prohibition.But is it not better to enjoy less during lent? That is only my point.
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No harm? You called it Satan’s drink!

We are called on to do some form of penitential act in Lent. Apart from the few acts that are specified such as abstaining from meat and fasting (restricting our eating) on certain days only, what that penance is is entirely up to the individual.

Now I am a big coffee drinker - to give that up for Lent would certainly be a bigger hardship for me than alcohol, which I do not drink regularly.

Or to make a point to spend time with some of my family members who, although they are not bad people, I find difficult to interact with for different reasons. That truly would be more in the spirit of Lenten sacrifice for me.
 
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