Why no restrictions on drinking?

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meltzerboy2 said:
Did not Christ also give up his blood, more than symbolized by wine in the Mass? If so, why not also refrain from wine on Good Friday, or is this already the case?
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Christ gave up his flesh for the life of the world (John 6:51) on the Cross. We abstain from flesh meat in commemoration of this sacrifice on the cross.

Yes, sacramentally he gives us his Body and Blood under the form of bread and wine. However, we aren’t called to give up bread and wine. We are called to receive them in the Eucharist.
meltzerboy2 said:
If so, why not also refrain from wine on Good Friday, or is this already the case?
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The Triduum is one continuous liturgy. There is no Mass on Good Friday. Therefore, the communion we receive on Good Friday are hosts reserved in the tabernacle from Holy Thursday. There is no consecration, no wine that becomes the blood of Christ.

But it isn’t because we are abstaining from wine.
 
Lots of reasons. For unmarried women it puts them at a lot moral risk and for married women it is potentially dangerous for pregnancy.
 
Pregnant women should not drink. Unmarried women have to keep their eye on any drink, alcoholic or otherwise. Married women who are not pregnant can drink.
 
Mi_Rose said:
Pregnant women should not drink. Unmarried women have to keep their eye on any drink, alcoholic or otherwise. Married women who are not pregnant can drink.
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Yup - you can spike a coke just as easily. The smarter thing is to not go out with people you don’t trust. Generally my drinking has been either in my own home, or out with a group of friends that I trust to keep an eye on my drink as well.
 
Wine, not alcohol in general. Beer wasn’t generally considered as such, they’d probably never heard of fermented mare’s milk, and mead had been dropped ages ago, as there’s no reason for it once wine and beer have been developed. Distilling was a millennium away.
 
Three different doctors have told me a glass of red wine is good for my heart.
 
Mi_Rose said:
Three different doctors have told me a glass of red wine is good for my heart.
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Not to mention numerous peer reviewed medical studies . . .

Modern beer is a small net positive; unfiltered beer would probably be a larger positive. (What idiot got the3 idea to filter the good stuff out just to avoid the haze, anyway???)
 
SusanneT said:
For unmarried women it puts them at a lot moral risk
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Wow.
SusanneT said:
for married women it is potentially dangerous for pregnancy.
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As stated as a historical and geographic fact, in some times and parts of the world the only thing safe to drink is alcoholic beverages. Other cultures do not consider wine or beer dangerous to pregnancy.

This is pretty much an American belief.
 
How big is the glass is a question every time.
@dochawk where does a glass of porter land on the scale of good effects. I am a woman torn between that and wine.
 
TheLittleLady said:
As stated as a historical and geographic fact, in some times and parts of the world the only thing safe to drink is alcoholic beverages. Other cultures do not consider wine or beer dangerous to pregnancy.

This is pretty much an American belief.
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American culture tends to have a higher association in general between drinking and drunkenness. It’s pretty well established by now that heavy drinking is dangerous to pregnancy. But it’s also pretty well known that a lot of american doctors tend to be skeptical of moderate drinkers, or assume people are drinking more than they report.
 
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Like a Doppelbock, a meal in itself. Bless those German monks of 700 years ago.
 
I’m with you on that. Never trust a beer you can see through . . . (although to admit it, it’s really the hops I’m addicted to, not the heavy body . . . mmm, hops . . . when I return to brewing, I’m going to take a stab at something with less grain, calories, and alcohol than APB, but with the haploid of an IPA. I’ll use heroic amounts of cara pils to stiffen the body ,. . .)
Mi_Rose said:
How big is the glass is a question every time.
@dochawk where does a glass of porter land on the scale of good effects. I am a woman torn between that and wine.
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Most beer, 12oz.
Normal wines, 5oz
Port and other fortified wine, about 3.5oz (assuming 18% instead of 12% for regular).

Porter is a moderately heavy dark beer, named for being intended to provide porters with the energy they needed to go about their tasks, is similar in alcohol but with more dark/burnt grains, so still about 12oz.

“Stout” comes from “Guinness extra stout”, almost certainly meaning extra stout porter–and note that it has less calories than APB, less calories than many american light beers (125 calories in 12oz). It’s not heavy; it’s just that the roast barley makes it feel heavy to the mouth.
Cruciferi said:
I got the boxed wine! 📦 🍷
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Hmm, yours actually uses the w-word on the box. Many don’t, because they have little to no grape 😱🤮😡 . . . always check before buying, or you may come home with fermented pear juice (the most common).
 
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I’ll just ferment this!
 
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