Why not despise our bodies?

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How can anyone say the human body is a thing of beauty? To say that God would create something so filthy and disgusting contradicts the idea of Divine perfection. This is precisely the problem with modern culture.

So, tell me why I’m wrong!
 
Sol_Invictus said:
How can anyone say the human body is a thing of beauty? To say that God would create something so filthy and disgusting contradicts the idea of Divine perfection. This is precisely the problem with modern culture.

So, tell me why I’m wrong!
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Um, maybe I’m just tired and full of turkey, but don’t your first two sentences contradict each other? Can you explain what you’re asking a bit more?
 
mommyof4 said:
Um, maybe I’m just tired and full of turkey, but don’t your first two sentences contradict each other? Can you explain what you’re asking a bit more?
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What I’m saying is that are bodies are flawed and that the sooner we stop worshiping them the better.
 
mommyof4 said:
Yes, but they’re also the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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Well that seems contradictory God dwells in unclean places? If the “Holy Spirit” dwells in a person in the state of “mortal sin” why can’t anyone regardless of her state receive communion.
 
God created our bodies, so they are good. To worship the body is a sin, but to despise it is also a sin (isn’t that one of the great heresies too?). The body is capable of bringing life into the world, it becomes a tabernacle for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The body must be respected and has it’s own dignity because God has created it, and His only begotten son took human form with a human body.
 
Kevin42 said:
God created our bodies, so they are good. To worship the body is a sin, but to despise it is also a sin (isn’t that one of the great heresies too?). The body is capable of bringing life into the world, it becomes a tabernacle for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The body must be respected and has it’s own dignity because God has created it, and His only begotten son took human form with a human body.
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Well said. Much better than I could have done.

I’m tired and signing off for the night.
 
Kevin42 said:
God created our bodies, so they are good. To worship the body is a sin, but to despise it is also a sin (isn’t that one of the great heresies too?). The body is capable of bringing life into the world, it becomes a tabernacle for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The body must be respected and has it’s own dignity because God has created it, and His only begotten son took human form with a human body.
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Whats so holy about bringing another soul into this world of suffering? Naw God could’nt make such a thing.
 
mommyof4 said:
Well said. Much better than I could have done.

I’m tired and signing off for the night.
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I appreciate the kind words, but I certainly have not done the topic justice. I am confident though that someone smarter than me will address this though, which is why I too am about to go to bed:D .
 
How can anyone say the human body is a thing of beauty? To say that God would create something so filthy and disgusting contradicts the idea of Divine perfection. This is precisely the problem with modern culture.
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So, tell me why I’m wrong!
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Hee…hee…hee…

If you actually have these thoughts, become a transhumanist!!

Hopefully* Homo sapiens *will be extinct by the end of the century as they would have become cybernetic.

However, if we want to see this event, we have to respect our feeble bodies by taking care of ourselves. We should all plan to “live long enough to live forever”. (in the words of Ray Kurzweil).
 
Sol_Invictus said:
How can anyone say the human body is a thing of beauty? To say that God would create something so filthy and disgusting contradicts the idea of Divine perfection. This is precisely the problem with modern culture.

So, tell me why I’m wrong!
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You haven’t given us any reason to think that you are right. You apparently find your body filthy and disgusting. That is your problem.

Real flaws with our bodies are the result of the Fall. However, our fastidious dislike of our bodies may itself be the result of the Fall.

Edwin
 
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

God doesn’t despise matter. He made it, He likes it. He made us, in our physical forms, and He likes those. Also, He was incarnate, which means He had a physical body. God cannot dwell, as you say, in unclean places. So the Incarnation disproves the idea that the human form is innately evil.
 
I like my body and it’s been very, very good to me. And I’m a cancer patient for the third time! 🙂

Even things that are apparently gross, like feces, are really an awesome thing if you understand nutrition and anatomy and physiology. I took a nutrition class last year with lots of science in it…and it really is awesome.

Better get used to having a body because you’ll have one for eternity. You get a body back at the Last Day.

(It will be perfected so hope you’re happy with it. I wouldn’t recommend complaining about the resurrection body at the Last Day to your Maker, He might think you’re an ungrateful little cad and throw you in with the goats.)
 
Please note further that God deems creation very good only after man and woman have been created. Until then, creation was just “good.” So in some sense the human body itself makes creation very good.
If you persist in believing that the body is evil or impure or intrinsically bad, then you are a heretic.

Matthew
 
Sol_Invictus said:
Well that seems contradictory God dwells in unclean places? If the “Holy Spirit” dwells in a person in the state of “mortal sin” why can’t anyone regardless of her state receive communion.
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Sol Invictus,

This is a serious misunderstanding on your part. The Holy Spirit does NOT dwell in a person who is in a state of mortal sin. This is the crux of Catholic doctrine on grace.

When we are baptized, we receive sanctifying grace in our soul. Our soul becomes a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.

HOWEVER, when we commit a mortal sin, that grace leaves our soul. God can never be in the presence of sin. This is why we must confess all mortal sin. When we are truly sorry for our sin, and we confess it, we are forgiven! And sanctifying grace comes into our soul once again.

This is why we should not receive the Eucharist while in a state of mortal sin. We are receiving the Body and Blood of Christ, and to receive Him while in a state of mortal sin is sacrilege.

On the other hand, to receive the Eucharist worthily is to strengthen that grace that is already present within us and puts us in communion with God. As He becomes a part of us, we become transformed to become more like Him.

Sol Invictus, remember that God is nothing but love and goodness, and all that He created is good. That includes the human body. We may sin with our body at times, but the body itself is a beautiful creation and is remarkable in all that it can do: our five senses, our beating heart, our blood, nerves, and organs…how do they do what they do??? The way a body can move and balance, from dancing to gymnastics to running to stretching, it’s all so amazing. We think and have emotions. All these things and more are a testament to the power, beauty, and goodness of God.
 
Sol_Invictus said:
How can anyone say the human body is a thing of beauty? To say that God would create something so filthy and disgusting contradicts the idea of Divine perfection. This is precisely the problem with modern culture.

So, tell me why I’m wrong!
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I was just curious. Your profile list N/A under your religion. I don’t know of any religion that teaches that your body is a filthy, disgusting work. What is your religious background?:confused:
 
jpjd said:
Sol Invictus,

This is a serious misunderstanding on your part. The Holy Spirit does NOT dwell in a person who is in a state of mortal sin. This is the crux of Catholic doctrine on grace.

When we are baptized, we receive sanctifying grace in our soul. Our soul becomes a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.

HOWEVER, when we commit a mortal sin, that grace leaves our soul. God can never be in the presence of sin. This is why we must confess all mortal sin. When we are truly sorry for our sin, and we confess it, we are forgiven! And sanctifying grace comes into our soul once again.

This is why we should not receive the Eucharist while in a state of mortal sin. We are receiving the Body and Blood of Christ, and to receive Him while in a state of mortal sin is sacrilege.

On the other hand, to receive the Eucharist worthily is to strengthen that grace that is already present within us and puts us in communion with God. As He becomes a part of us, we become transformed to become more like Him.

Sol Invictus, remember that God is nothing but love and goodness, and all that He created is good. That includes the human body. We may sin with our body at times, but the body itself is a beautiful creation and is remarkable in all that it can do: our five senses, our beating heart, our blood, nerves, and organs…how do they do what they do??? The way a body can move and balance, from dancing to gymnastics to running to stretching, it’s all so amazing. We think and have emotions. All these things and more are a testament to the power, beauty, and goodness of God.
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This is a good answer and written very well.🙂
 
deb1 said:
I don’t know of any religion that teaches that your body is a filthy, disgusting work.
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Manicheanism did, modern paganism both worships and despises the body…I don’t know about Sol’s religion but this attitude has existed. Ancient Greeks also saw the noble immaterial soul trapped in a nasty body.
 
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