Why so many gay couples in tv shows?

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But, witho the exception of the actual exchanging of vows, how do you know the two couples in your scenario didn’t do all of the steps you listed? The point is, you don’t. You don’t know, because they don’t tell you because it isn’t any of your business.

You made my point. Don’t assume you understand what is missing from the relationships of other couples. It is a private thing.
 
No. Privacy is gone. And us guys, and the girls, were taught the same thing. So when I met an attractive stranger, we started dating. I knew what to do as did she. These things were common knowledge until radicals said, “Hold the marriage, just have lots of sex.” So no, there are wrong relationships out there. Like a couple I know who are cohabitating. He talks about her side of the family like they’re married. They’re not. it’s a bad alternative. A distortion of true marriage. This distortion is not a valid way to live but something manmade.

“Don’t listen to the Church, listen to us.” Sadly, too many did. And things have not gotten better because of these experiments.
 
QwertyGirl said:
rather than stating Church rules that don’t exist.
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I didn’t state any non-existant Church rules. As a matter of fact, I didn’t say anything about any Church rules, though, the Church does teach, through Scripture and Tradition, that the husband is the head of his family and has God-given authority over his wife and children. This doesn’t mean he is greater or has more dignity, both are equal members of the marital covenant. Woman was created from his side, indicating they walk side by side. This family dynamic reflects the divine order between God, Christ and man.
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We either compromise or take turns deciding when we can’t agree. Sometimes we just table a decision for later.
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Not all, but a lot of men follow the motto, “happy wife, happy life” and so even though it may go against their better judgement and it isn’t that important to them, they will give in. This definitely doesn’t take away their bearing the responsibility for the decision.
 
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Very well said. I asked my mother about marriage and she said it was like “Two people pulling the same cart.”
 
MagdalenaRita said:
and what if your husband is convinced he is right?

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Since I have more financial acumen, he’d yield to my decision. In areas where he knows more about a topic, I’d yield to his decision.
 
JulianN said:
Since I have more financial acumen, he’d yield to my decision. In areas where he knows more about a topic, I’d yield to his decision.
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I don’t see anything wrong with that. It would work that way for us too. My point would be, though, that despite a person’s expertise in a particular area, one spouse may still feel their decision is best and someone has to decide and in the end the responsibility for the final decision would be the husband.

Not too long some close friends of mine, completely disintigrated their family over a school decision. They were a very good large Christian family but neither one would give an inch because they both completely believed their choice was best. Looking back now they are seeing what a mistake that was. That is where my point is, someone has to be responsible for the final decisions in the family and the other person has to yield to that.
 
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MagdalenaRita said:
Not all, but a lot of men follow the motto, “happy wife, happy life” and so even though it may go against their better judgement and it isn’t that important to them, they will give in. This definitely doesn’t take away their bearing the responsibility for the decision.
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What you perceive as “giving in”, we perceive as compromise and collaboration. Perhaps just semantics. Perhaps not.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
I don’t see anything wrong with that. It would work that way for us too. My point would be, though, that despite a person’s expertise in a particular area, one spouse may still feel their decision is best and someone has to decide and in the end the responsibility for the final decision would be the husband.
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My spouse and I have been happily married over thirty years. Many, many life changing decisions were made during that time. Not once did my husband take (or was given) the responsibility of making a final decision on anything.

Again, if you feel this is Church teaching, I would have to say the evidence isn’t there that it is a requirement for a sound marriage.
 
QwertyGirl said:
What you perceive as “giving in”, we perceive as compromise and collaboration. Perhaps just semantics. Perhaps not.
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It is hard to say, yes. I would say it would depend. I know quite a few women who absolutely refuse to allow their husbands to make a decision.
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My spouse and I have been happily married over thirty years. Many, many life changing decisions were made during that time. Not once did my husband take (or was given) the responsibility of making a final decision on anything.
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Not sure but I think you are seeing this as a husband stating something like, “okay, this is the decision we will make and I take responsibility for it and this is how it is going to be”. I think this is one of the biggest fears women have, that the husband will be some mean authoritative man.

but in reality, it works more like I suspect the way you and your husband work things out, through love and discussion and respect for each others opinions. As I said earlier both are equal in the marriage covenant and they walk side by side, but in the end, the husband shoulders the responsibility before God for whatever decision is made.
 
Well I am agnostic and he is atheist, so we don’t believe in the part of shouldering responsibility before God.

For either of us to believe my husband has the ultimate responsibility for whatever decisions are made, we take me out of the equation on that level. That wouldn’t be acceptable to either of us. It would be me giving less than my whole self to the marriage in that regard.

Again, I believe each couple needs to figure out what works for them and go with that. Their world view will play a lot into how they learn to negotiate these things with each other.
 
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Well I am agnostic and he is atheist, so we don’t believe in the part of shouldering responsibility before God.
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Yes, I suppose if you do not believe in God, you also would not take into consideration that one day we stand before Him in judgement.
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For either of us to believe my husband has the ultimate responsibility for whatever decisions are made, we take me out of the equation on that level. That wouldn’t be acceptable to either of us
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You never take yourself out of the equation, if you are walking together. When respecting your husband and recognizing him as head of the family and one who shoulders a great responsibility, you are giving your whole self to him and your marriage.

“The husband is the chief of the family, and the head of the wife. The woman, because she flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone, must be subject to her husband and obey him; not indeed as a servant, but as a companion, so that her obedience shall be wanting neither honor nor dignity. Pope Leo XIII

I think this so beautifully says it best.
 
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The person with the expertise. Or the person who cares the most. Or however a couple works it out. If you want it to be the husband who gets the final say, that’s fine. But it’s not fine for everyone—certainly not for my husband and me.
 
Depends which country you are personally living in.
I live in Australia and here much of the population are either non religious or cultural Christians.
Religion is kept more personal and isn’t really talked about openly in a day to day basis.
 
The problem is that “Hollywood” also has all the big money so many Christians etc would not be able to do big productions and only small budget films that might not reach many people.
If there was a method of funding towards Christians for their projects, that would be the ideal.
 
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If this is the case about the husband having ultimate authority over the family, then women should be very, very careful of who they marry. If a woman chooses to be a traditional stay at home who will be economically dependent on her husband, she will be in a very vulnerable position.
 
Sarcelle said:
If this is the case about the husband having ultimate authority over the family, then women should be very, very careful of who they marry. If a woman chooses to be a traditional stay at home who will be economically dependent on her husband, she will be in a very vulnerable position.
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And why a correct understanding of vows is so important. Perhaps the tax laws should favor this and protect women from this situation. No fault divorce should be repealed. Marriage is licensed by the state to protect the children. It sets forth the responsibilities of the parents to their children. Strengthen and encourage the family.

A republic depends on a healthy family.
 
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