Why the Catholic Church Is Wise to Ban Condoms

[mlchance]

Nohome:

Only according to your Pope and about 10% of Catholics.

Ignoring your made up statistics, appeals to popularity are fallacious.

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Nohome]

Ignoring your made up statistics, appeals to popularity are fallacious.

– Mark L. Chance.
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Who’s making anything up?

Here are the percentages of people who think the following practices are “acceptable.” The first figure is for Catholics, the second for Americans in general.
Birth control using the pill or condoms: 88 percent, 94 percent

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1037545/posts

You do realize that by referencing the Nizkor project you are comparing me to Hitler. According to Godwin’s Law you have just ended this debate. I’ll see you in the next thread.

Nohome

 

[BlindSheep]

Nohome, if every single person on Earth commited the same sin, that wouldn’t make it right.

 

[mlchance]

Nohome:

Who’s making anything up?

You are. You reference one poll regarding American Catholics and then attempt to generalize from that about the 1.1 billion Catholic worldwide as part of an intellectually fallacious argument from popularity.

And then you make this up:

Nohome:

You do realize that by referencing the Nizkor project you are comparing me to Hitler.

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Rosalinda]

Sorry to hear Nohome that you think anyone here was accusing you of being a Nazi. Nevertheless, the scandal of the AIDS epidemic in Africa which is decimating populations on scale with the black plague remains. It is a scandal because there seems to be strong undercurrents of eugenics at play.

As for your point about Catholics and contraceptives we all agree, it too, is a scandal. Even so, Christ did say the righteous have no need of him; He came for sinners. The Church is full of hypocrites and sinners. There is always room for one more. Personally, I’m quite comfortable sitting in the pew with sinners because I know that is where I belong. :yup:

One of the greatest comeback lines in history was uttered two hundred years ago. As his armies were swallowing up the countries of Europe, French emperor Napoleon is reported to have said to Church officials, “Je détruirai votre église” (“I will destroy your Church”)." When informed of the emperor’s words, Ercole Cardinal Consalvi, one of the great statesmen of the papal court, replied, “He will never succeed. We have not managed to do it ourselves!” If bad popes, immoral priests, and countless sinners in the Church hadn’t succeeded in destroying the Church from within, Cardinal Consalvi was saying, how did Napoleon think he was going to do it from without?

The Cardinal was pointing to a crucial truth: Christ will never allow his Church to fail. He promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church (Matt. 16:18); that the barque of Peter, the Church sailing through time to its eternal port in heaven, will never capsize- not because those in the boat won’t do everything sinfully possible to overturn it but because Christ, who is captain of the boat, will never allow it to happen.

catholic.com/library/A_Crisis_of_Saints.asp

 

[Rosalinda]

Here’s an interesting story about an American doctor Mulcaire Jones who has been volunteering three times a year in Africa; changed his mind about the condom solution to the AIDS crisis after his encounter with the Irish Mother Teresa, Sister Miriam Duggan an ob/gyn.

When I first started doing this, I went over to Africa as a Catholic who believed strongly in virtues of NFP [Natural Family Planning]," said Mulcaire-Jones, a resident of Butte, Mont. “But it was my belief that AIDS was so bad in Africa — that it had reached such a critical state — that we needed to forget about teaching NFP and focus on condoms. What I learned is that NFP and AIDS prevention are the same thing. The only proven way to prevent the spread of AIDS is through abstinence before marriage and faithfulness in marriage. What I found is that AIDS prevention, in fact, leads to NFP.”

catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/se0079.html