Why the negativity?

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I love that article!

It was discussing subjective versus objective faith.

Subjective versus objective truth is a different consideration.

All forms of faith are subjective truth. They are a subject’s response to an objective truth.

At least in my mind. Which isn’t always objectively detached from the conversation.
 
I actually agree with this. The real scary thing about gay marriage is that the next step will be legislation that makes it illegal for the Church not to perform a gay wedding (i.e. discrimination). That’s a serious issue because at that point the state has taken control of religion, not for the first time in history.

What i describe are the current trends, if Catholics can’t think about things a bit more important than farting then we will see our faith dictated to us but populist politician’s.
 
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The real scary thing about gay marriage is that the next step will be legislation that makes it illegal for the Church not to perform a gay wedding (i.e. discrimination). That’s a serious issue because at that point the state has taken control of religion, not for the first time in history.
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It will certainly be something interesting to watch unfold. We are already getting a taste of it with being forced by our Govt.to pay for birth control, abortions,and illegal wars.

I think forcing business owners to violate their conscience is also a warning sign.

I think we need to work hard to train ourselves not to use the term “gay marriage”. We need to be firm in referring to it using other language.
 
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Wow. This is one of those threads that has covered nearly every topic people like to argue about.

Throw in NFP and now you’ve got somethin! 🤣🤣🤣

Wonder if there’s a patron saint of derailing threads??? 🤔
 
If that happens, it would mean that the Constitution and decades of laws have been overturned.

There is no free nation on earth that has forced a Catholic Church to perform an invalid wedding. Not one.

The very worst, aside from the repeal of the Constitution and overthrow of our government, is that we move to the model of many European Central/South American countries where people get a government wedding first then the Church ceremony after.
 
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