Why the negativity?

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TrBe21 said:
(I have used up to 4 different names at a time
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What for?
What is the benefit of using four usernames and at a time for you?
Would you even dialogue with yourself or give each other of your " personalities" support ,likes ,or perhaps argue with one another?
Bizarre experiment …🤨
Why not be yourself and that is it?
 
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stupidisasstupiddoes said:
No that’s just fundamentalism. The truth has a context and we / the Church need to constantly interpret faith because it does not exist in a vacuum.
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Is that your opinion being presented as fact? Please substantiate your claims! We have Dogma. There are truths that cannot be reinterpreted.
 
You can make a word salad arguement to try and pretend the Church never changes its position on anything. It clearly does. Nothing is more boring than semantic arguements.
 
Word salad nonsense. I’ve had this debate on here before, it goes nowhere except semantic silliness. If you can’t think of anything the church has changed its mind about then you don’t know church history well or are just using sophistry. That’s all i have to say on the subject.
 
Any number of corrupt politicians embody sin. Also War would be a perfect example of the evil of sin.
 
stupidisasstupiddoes said:
@Cruciferi: “If you cannot utilize the Catechism then there’s no point in being Catholic! We are not striving for secular standards. The truth is the truth, take it or leave it.”

No that’s just fundamentalism. The truth has a context and we / the Church need to constantly interpret faith because it does not exist in a vacuum.
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Depends on which kind of truth you mean.

Objective truth is true no matter who or where you are. And “whether you know it, like it, or believe it,” as Father Michael Schmitz says.

Subjective truth is about how you see objective truth. It is relative to the person observing the objective truth. It can be different for you and for me.

Objective truth is unchanged by whether you “take it or leave it,” as @Cruciferi mentioned. It does exist in a vacuum. Objective truth cannot be wrong. If you say it can change, I object. Ha ha. Objective truth is what actually is.

Interpreting truth is subjective. It is subject to change. Ha ha ha.

Anyway, I think you are both right, but possibly referring to different forms of the truth.

I believe that the substance of the faith is objectively true. Divine law—the natural law. This is built in and unchanging. How we are to live according to those laws in different times and places is subjectively true. However, it is true only if it is consistent with and does not violate the unchanging objective truth.

Mushrooms are a fungus. Objective.
My son hates them. Subjective.
I love them. Subjective.
I hated them when I was a kid. Objective (a fact that happened—trick question.).
Certain mushrooms are poisonous and should never be eaten. Objective.
Psilocybin mushrooms are hallucinogenic. Objective.
Psilocybin mushrooms should not be eaten. Subjective. (Arguable medicinal applications)
You are weird if you like mushrooms. False.
You are picky if you don’t like mushrooms. False.
I could go on all day about objective/subjective truth. Objective.
 
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Morality: Objective or Subjective? Philosophy
I will argue that morality is subjective. We humans must develop our cultural moralities such that we can progress and live lives with freedoms that we choose, such that it does not hinder someone else’s freedoms. We rationally debate and discuss what would be a good moral law within our societies. Generally, in America for instance, we have good baseline (federal) laws, yet states still have differences for what fits within that local area. Simply stealing or killing someone because you fee…
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This subject was discussed long ago…
 
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To the OP… While the current statistics that you cite in you opening post are good news, the “negativity” that you perceive is because the underlying trends in our society are paving the way for terrible statistics of the future. For instance, the idea of so-called same-sex “marriage” might not seem to harm anyone today. But you and I should meet back here in 50 years to discuss its impact on society – it ain’t gonna be good.

So what you think are minor things are actually little nicks in the foundation of a happy society: a foundation based on love of God and love of neighbor. What looks like a healthy society today (based on your statistics of health, poverty, etc.) may only be masking a sick society in moral terms.
 
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It is an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.

It is an act regarded as a serious or regrettable fault, offense, or omission.

It offends against (God, a person, or a principle).

Dictionary described sin in three different ways but we use for example… St. Thomas Aquinas to guide us on theological definition of SIN.
 
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We have Dogma. There are truths that cannot be reinterpreted.
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It is more a matter of interpreting how the dogma and doctrines of the faith are applied in the current culture. For example, we did not get the Marian doctrines for centuries, and ultimately, they were developed in response to heresies about Christ.

The development of the canon is a good example. The books that belonged in the Bible were proclaimed in 382 AD. This does not mean the books were not scripture when they were written, but the canon was formally proclaimed and closed to respond to disputes about which books belonged, and which did not!
 
And Abortion is a silent war on humanity which has taken more lives in the past few decades than all the wars combined. Sorry but we are not in as peaceful times as it may seem.
 
True.

For some reason, though, the minute you try to assert the dramatic reality of abortion, you get written off as if you have become irrelevant. You are one of “those.” You don’t get treated this way by all, but it happens very frequently.

Well, is it untrue?! If so, bring on the counter-arguments. Not the insults and accusations.
 
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