Jews also pick and choose.But for some reason that I do not understand, Christians pick and choose parts of the 613 to follow and at the same time treat the Aseret ha-D’varim (see Ex. 34:28, Deut. 4:13 and Deut. 10:4) as mitzvot when they are not.
Catholics are required to observe many of the 613 Mitzvot:. Here are the ones which in my opinion are binding on Catholics. Some of the others, being open to interpretation could be interpreted in such a way that Catholics may be obligated to follow them But others, Catholics would not be obligated to follow them, according to our priests.I don’t think that non-Jews should be required to follow any of the 613. By the text of the Tanakh they are only required to follow the Seven Laws of Moses.
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Why do Christians (including Catholics) care so much about the 10 commandments? Why should non-Jews care about any of the 613 Mitzvot? Shouldn’t the concern for non-Jews, according to the Tanakh, be the Seven Laws of Noah? If Catholics are not going to follow all of God’s Mitzvot, should they be picking and choosing in a manner not given by God?
Those only apply to loans between Jews. Most observant Jews will seek out loans that do not involve other Jews. There are also interpretations of these mitzvot that allow for something that is close to interest, but is not considered interest.Jews also pick and choose.
For another example, consider #171 or #172. Any Jew who has a mortgage on his house will have to pay interest, even if the head of the bank is Jewish. Jews regularly violate #171, and #172. And also Jewish ladies are wearing pants all the time.
Suppose that a woman were to find herself in a foreign country and she did not know the language. Now suppose that she had to use the restroom and she was directed to an area that had two doors. On one door was an icon of a figure with pants, and on the other door was an icon of a figure with a dress. Now if pants were female apparel, the lady would choose that door. But she will not. She will always choose the door with the icon of the skirt. This proves conclusively that pants are male apparel. Since Jewish women regularly are seen wearing pants, this means that they are not really observing this rule against men’s clothing.And again, while there are some Jews that see wearing (woman’s) pants as a violation most do not.
This is not possible in many cases, since the officials of many banks are Jewish.Most observant Jews will seek out loans that do not involve other Jews.
Well, then there is also a similar answer as to why Catholics obey some of the 613 but not all. Catholics are bound by the Natural Law, sometimes called the Divine Law, similar in some sense perhaps to the 7 Laws of Noah but not exactly so. And in addition, there is the Tradition of the Church together with the Bible. Catholics see some of the 613 as a simple logical conclusion from the Natural Law and so they must be obeyed. Others are not so much that way and are seen to apply to Jews only, and Catholics see themselves as being released from some of the 613 by Jesus.
- In Rabbinical Judaism the power to interpret the Torah rests with Rabbis. Their interpretation even trumps anything God might say about the matter. As the Talmud says “The Torah is not in Heaven.”
That is just not the interpretation that the most Jews follow.Suppose that a woman were to find herself in a foreign country and she did not know the language. Now suppose that she had to use the restroom and she was directed to an area that had two doors. On one door was an icon of a figure with pants, and on the other door was an icon of a figure with a dress. Now if pants were female apparel, the lady would choose that door. But she will not. She will always choose the door with the icon of the skirt. This proves conclusively that pants are male apparel. Since Jewish women regularly are seen wearing pants, this means that they are not really observing this rule against men’s clothing.
Wow. I guess the stereotyping of Jews is alive and well here.This is not possible in many cases, since the officials of many banks are Jewish.
Which brings me back to original question. Why do Catholics make such a big deal about the 10 Commandments? Especially considering that, at least according to Neil_Anthony, Catholics do not even follow the Ten Commandments.Well, then there is also a similar answer as to why Catholics obey some of the 613 but not all. Catholics are bound by the Natural Law, sometimes called the Divine Law, similar in some sense perhaps to the 7 Laws of Noah but not exactly so. And in addition, there is the Tradition of the Church together with the Bible. Catholics see some of the 613 as a simple logical conclusion from the Natural Law and so they must be obeyed. Others are not so much that way and are seen to apply to Jews only, and Catholics see themselves as being released from some of the 613 by Jesus.
Also, there are a few of the 613 which I think are controversial among Catholics and they may not agree with themselves within Catholicism on some of the Mitzvot.
I am sorry about this, but I think you are overreacting. I thought it was the case that there are banks that have Jewish officials working there? But i could be wrong on this. Take for example, in Israel. Do you mean to say that the banks are all headed by gentiles? I don;t think so.Wow. I guess the stereotyping of Jews is alive and well here.
No, it only proves conclusively that this woman understands restroom signage.…This proves conclusively that pants are male apparel…
Neil_Anthony is wrong. Catholics have to follow the Ten Commandments. These are seen as part of the Divine Law and part of the Natural Law which is binding for everyone, similar to what you think about the 7 Laws of Noah.Which brings me back to original question. Why do Catholics make such a big deal about the 10 Commandments? Especially considering that, at least according to Neil_Anthony, Catholics do not even follow the Ten Commandments.
It is not what I think. It is what YHWH said in Genesis.Neil_Anthony is wrong. Catholics have to follow the Ten Commandments. These are seen as part of the Divine Law and part of the Natural Law which is binding for everyone, similar to what you think about the 7 Laws of Noah.
The 3rd says to keep the Sabbath holy. The Sabbath is from Sunday on Friday until sundown on Saturday. Sunday is just not the Sabbath.Catholics have to keep the Lord’s Day holy. It is just that the Lord’s Day for Catholics is Sunday, not Saturday - so he sees a technical violation.
It is not that hard to find a bank that is not Jewish.I am sorry about this, but I think you are overreacting. I thought it was the case that there are banks that have Jewish officials working there?
Most banks in Israel use something called a Shtar Iska that allows for money to be loaned without interest while still allowing for the bank to make money.Take for example, in Israel. Do you mean to say that the banks are all headed by gentiles? I don;t think so.
Well, which is it? Are Catholics obsessed with following the ten Commandments or is it that they don’t really follow the ten Commandments after all. Which way are you arguing?It is not what I think. It is what YHWH said in Genesis.
The 3rd says to keep the Sabbath holy. The Sabbath is from Sunday on Friday until sundown on Saturday. Sunday is just not the Sabbath.
Is it required for a Jew in the USA to make sure that the bank where he has the mortgage for his house has no Jewish officials working at the bank? I don’t think so.It is not that hard to find a bank that is not Jewish.
Most banks in Israel use something called a Shtar Iska that allows for money to be loaned without interest while still allowing for the bank to make money.
The 3rd commandment says nothing about “The Lord’s Day.” It says the “Sabbath.” I don’t care if Catholics follow the Ten Commandments or not. But the Sabbath is from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday.Well, which is it? Are Catholics obsessed with following the ten Commandments or is it that they don’t really follow the ten Commandments after all. Which way are you arguing?
Catholics have reinterpreted these commandments to fit in with Church tradition. Catholics follow the ten Commandments according to their interpretation of them.
For a Catholic, the Lord’s Day has been moved to Sunday and we do not follow the observance of Saturday as the Lord’s Day. This is because of the Resurrection of Our Lord, Jesus Christ from the dead on Sunday.
Whether or not a single Jew worked at the bank would not make a difference whether he was an official or a janitor.Is it required for a Jew in the USA to make sure that the bank where he has the mortgage for his house has no Jewish officials working at the bank?
The use of a Shtar Iska does not violate the mitzvah. You may not like the interpretation that Jews (obviously there are different interpretations) have given this particular mitzvah or some other mitzvot, but that does not mean that they do not follow the 613. Observant Jews try to follow all the mitzvot that are possible to follow under the proper interpretation.And as for Israel, I don’t know the bank rules there. But does Israel have mortgage loans on houses or developments? And when the money is paid back in installments, is only the principle amount paid back, or is there added on some extra charges which you don;t call interest, but would be called interest in any other country in the world? Is this method you have referred to, simply a way of circumventing the law against interest, so that in the end you are really paying interest after all ? All you are doing is calling it selling a loan at a discount which is mathematically equivalent to charging interest on a loan.