Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Canidate?

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ribozyme said:
Besides that, I do not know any other way one can meaningfully and significantly contribute to the welfare of humanity. I do not know how I can contribute without having significant assets.
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That is a strange thing to say…we can all contribute. Do you think contributions are meaningless unless they are large? Thankfully, that is not what we believe, as Catholics.

Why would you want to rely on Billionaires? :confused:

Besides, you don’t have to just contribute money. You can offer your particular talents to others. In your case, I guess you could teach really big words to some of the poor living on the streets. 😉 😃
 
rlg94086 said:
That is a strange thing to say…we can all contribute. Do you think contributions are meaningless unless they are large? Thankfully, that is not what we believe, as Catholics.

Why would you want to rely on Billionaires? :confused:

Besides, you don’t have to just contribute money. You can offer your particular talents to others. In your case, I guess you could teach really big words to some of the poor living on the streets. 😉 😃
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I just feel disappointed because I cannot imitate someone I admire who has help people combat oppression and poverty.
 
deb1 said:
I am curious, why would a Catholic vote for a prochoice canidate?:confused: Do they not see abortion as evil?

Abortion is a type of genocide, so isn’t voting prochoice a method of giving approval to genocide of the most innocent, helpless of victims?

Some on this forum have said that they don’t want to use only one issue to vote for a candidate. But would you think the same if instead of killing unborn babies, we were talking about the killing of minority adults?

Imagine this: two candidates are up for office, one is a worthless human being but against killing the members of a minority group. The second candidate stands for everything that the voter believes in but thinks that killing adult minorities should be allowed, would you still vote for the second candidate?

I don’t see how killing unborn babies is different then killing adult minorities of any race or religion.:confused:
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Hello ALL. I have always considered myself anti-abortion, have tried to vote for Pro-Life candidates in the government as far as I could understand and individual’s politics. BUT what is one to do when all three candidates are Pro-Choice. I am really concerned about the up and coming Presidential election. We have no choices.:confused:
 
elt1956 said:
Hello ALL. I have always considered myself anti-abortion, have tried to vote for Pro-Life candidates in the government as far as I could understand and individual’s politics. BUT what is one to do when all three candidates are Pro-Choice. I am really concerned about the up and coming Presidential election. We have no choices.:confused:
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1 is anti abortion, 2 are pro abortion
 
I am not RC, but always vote anti-abortion.

Success in changing the country will come from voting for the best of the viable candidates. Throwing your vote away on a third party or staying home enables more liberal judges.

The last years have not ended abortion, but have seen progress:
George W. Bush’s War on Women: A Pernicious Web
A Planned Parenthood Report on the Administration and Congress
A Chronology of Attacks on Reproductive Rights
ppswo.org/issues-action/birth-control/bush-war-6069.htm

Everyone here needs to read it and thank God for the 2000 and 2004 elections.

Thanks,
Tim
 
rlg94086 said:
I’ll PM you a link to an annual ranking, since opening it would reveal the name of candidates and that is not allowed.
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Please send me a link too PM. I am having a real struggle with this candidate business. I voted conservative last Presidential election and look what happened. A war I don’t believe in. Sorry folks, but I don’t. Please don’t tell me bacause of my attitude I don’t support our boys and girls over therre in Hells way, because I pray for them every day. 🙂 Peace.
 
elt1956 said:
Please send me a link too PM. I am having a real struggle with this candidate business. I voted conservative last Presidential election and look what happened. A war I don’t believe in. Sorry folks, but I don’t. Please don’t tell me bacause of my attitude I don’t support our boys and girls over therre in Hells way, because I pray for them every day. 🙂 Peace.
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I take it you have never yourself served in combat.
 
elt1956 said:
Please send me a link too PM. I am having a real struggle with this candidate business. I voted conservative last Presidential election and look what happened. A war I don’t believe in. Sorry folks, but I don’t. Please don’t tell me bacause of my attitude I don’t support our boys and girls over therre in Hells way, because I pray for them every day. 🙂 Peace.
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What 2 new supreme court justices do you think would be there if the other party would have been in power?
 
aurora77 said:
It is. For some reason, the pro-life position is expected to give in when it comes to voting. We’re supposed to set aside a respect for life and worry about health care, the war on terror, taxes, etc. These issues are very, very important, don’t get me wrong, but if the most basic rights aren’t protected, who cares about anything else? Call me a one issue voter, but I firmly believe a person’s stance on the life issue colors the way they view all other issues.
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Thank You , I’m new to this forum,
You just answered my main question, How does a Catholic Vote in the up comming Election? All we hear is change ,change and more Change.
I will not change - I’ll stick with my Catholic upbringing and according to who is more Pro-Life be they a Rep or a Dem.
 
I read many of the responses.
There are many who struggle with this decision.
We should ask, “What would Jesus do?”
He gave His life so each of us could have ours, with our free will to choose to either follow His teachings or not.
I believe we must each do what we can to preserve life and to meet the enormous spiritual and social needs of so many others in this world. We cannot rely on our elected officials, through the medium of government to make these improvements.
Prayer and dedication to the Catholic principles of life will lead each of us to “Do what Jesus would do.”
 
Both of you is post 646 have hit the nail directly on the head. Way to go!!!
Deacon Ed B
 
ribozyme said:
Besides that, I do not know any other way one can meaningfully and significantly contribute to the welfare of humanity. I do not know how I can contribute without having significant assets.
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Ah, Contrare’. There are many ways to contribute without giving money. And sometimes those things help the most. Volunteerism is a great way to help. You will never know how many lives you will touch, and the lives that will touch you, in the process. There are so many ways to help. I bet there are organizations that would love to have your help.
 
mary_bobo said:
Ah, Contrare’. There are many ways to contribute without giving money. And sometimes those things help the most. Volunteerism is a great way to help. You will never know how many lives you will touch, and the lives that will touch you, in the process. There are so many ways to help. I bet there are organizations that would love to have your help.
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If we had fewer people saying, “I can’t do anything that will make a difference,” we’d have fewer problems.

Giveupitis is our worst disease.
 
It’s really this simple:

A. You’re a Catholic.
B. You follow the rules.
C. The rules (Ten Commandments) say, “Thou shalt not kill.” (Voting for someone who promotes abortion is like condoning it.)
Any questions? If so, here’s some help.

Free will but is not a free pass to excuse ourselves for excusing others doing wrong. Often, we think we’re voting for someone calling them the lesser of two evils, etc. But how often do we think of the following, Biblical passages (roughly quoted) before deciding on a candidate?
"Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of God."

And very timely for Holy Week - Our Lord’s message to the women of Jerusalem on His way to the Cross:
"For behold, days are coming in which men will say, ‘Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore, and breasts that never nursed.’ Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall upon us,’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us!’"

God forgive me if I may be taking this out of context but we’ve reached a point where Society - (even in TV commercials) - cites anything that’s convenient to prevent life and supposedly make your life easier.

Do we need a mountain to fall on us to get the message? As Catholics, despite our free will, we are bound not to promote Pro-Choice or support candidates who do. The choice, sadly, is to speak by not voting and telling them why. The choice is to stand up - en masse - and make a fuss. It’s a choice - between doing your civic duty or saving your soul.
End of story.
 
bcause they do not know what the Church teaches regarding the matter.
 
Let’s try this analysis. They think they know their faith, but also have imbued in them separation of Church and state. Accordingly, they seem to think that the Church’s stand on moral issues should not enter into our application of the law. Some may think that they are bound to keep them separate because of our system. All the while forgetting that man’s law, does not precede the law of God. I have heard so many who seem to think that what they are doing is so right and correct, when nothing could be further than the truth. It boils down to ignorance of one’s own faith and its teaching and the consequence of going against that teaching.
Deacon Ed B
 
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