Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Canidate?

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zab said:
If there were a candidate that best reflected the teachings of Jesus, would you vote for him?
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If he was a viable candidate, “yes.” However, it is a foolish question. Many, many opposing political views can “reflect the teachings of Jesus.” Jesus primarily taught us how to live our individual lives, not how to govern our countries. I would never be so proud as to believe that I would know how Jesus would run our country or vote. I can’t even imagine Jesus as a politician.
 
rlg94086 said:
If he was a viable candidate, “yes.” However, it is a foolish question. Many, many opposing political views can “reflect the teachings of Jesus.” Jesus primarily taught us how to live our individual lives, not how to govern our countries. I would never be so proud as to believe that I would know how Jesus would run our country or vote. I can’t even imagine Jesus as a politician.
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Let me point out that Jesus did not seek public office. He did not seek to become a Priest (which was the governing class under Roman rule), nor was he a “scribe” – a bureaucrat or lawyer.
 
vern_humphrey said:
Let me point out that Jesus did not seek public office. He did not seek to become a Priest (which was the governing class under Roman rule), nor was he a “scribe” – a bureaucrat or lawyer.
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Thanks be to God. If He had done any of those things, He wouldn’t have fulfilled God’s plan.
 
rlg94086 said:
Thanks be to God. If He had done any of those things, He wouldn’t have fulfilled God’s plan.
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Exactly. There is no reason He could not have been the Chief Priest, if that was what He wanted. Indeed, He could have been born to be the Roman Emperor.

But He chose to be a humble teacher, converting and teaching people one-on-one.
 
To answer the original question A catholic would vote for a pro-abortion canidate because they have been decieved in beliveing politcs should form their faith. in reality our faith should form our politics.
 
Addressing the original Question: Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Candidate?

Before I make my next comment, Let me assure everyone that I am not voting for a ProChoice Candidate this election because, I fortunately, have an option.

But, we must keep in mind that Hitler opposed abortion.

I would vote for a ProChoice if I were faced with someone who was insane.
 
HelenRose said:
Addressing the original Question: Why Would A Catholic Vote For A ProChoice Candidate?

Before I make my next comment, Let me assure everyone that I am not voting for a ProChoice Candidate this election because, I fortunately, have an option.

But, we must keep in mind that Hitler opposed abortion.

I would vote for a ProChoice if I were faced with someone who was insane.
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The better option would be not to vote. No one is saying you should vote for someone just becuase they oppose abortion. but those who support abortion are not fit to lead in any circumstances.
 
Pope Benedict XVI, stated: “Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.” For this reason, abortion and euthanasia are threshold issues. A “threshold issue” is one which does not allow more than one moral outcome. Threshold issues are fundamental and the Church’s position is morally binding.
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 The principles of voting Catholic are expressed in the following fundamental concepts:
• Life begins at conception. Therefore, a person’s right to exist begins at conception.

• Society’s duty is to protect innocent life from the moment of conception to natural death.

• The Catholic Church recognizes and teaches that protection of life is the paramount issue.

• The deliberate destruction of an innocent human being is a violation of the person’s rights and therefore always intrinsically wrong.

• Social issues such as hunger, adequate housing and health care, while worthy, are irrelevant if the human being is not first afforded the fundamental right to exist.

• Voting for a candidate based on his/her stand on social issues is unjustified if the candidate does not understand or support the person’s right to exist.
 
rlg94086 said:
If he was a viable candidate, “yes.” However, it is a foolish question. Many, many opposing political views can “reflect the teachings of Jesus.” Jesus primarily taught us how to live our individual lives, not how to govern our countries. I would never be so proud as to believe that I would know how Jesus would run our country or vote. I can’t even imagine Jesus as a politician.
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yeah, right:rolleyes:
 
vern_humphrey said:
Let me point out that Jesus did not seek public office. He did not seek to become a Priest (which was the governing class under Roman rule), nor was he a “scribe” – a bureaucrat or lawyer.
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Well, if Jesus was incarnated in this epoch of history, he probably would have been an excellent scholar or fellow for EPI, CBPP, CAP, or Brookings. Maybe his teachings could be translated into effective public policy.
 
ribozyme said:
Well, if Jesus was incarnated in this epoch of history, he probably would have been an excellent scholar or fellow for EPI, CBPP, CAP, or Brookings. Maybe his teachings could be translated into effective public policy.
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His teachings have been translated into effective public policy. thats something none of the groups you mentioned have ever been able to do.
 
estesbob said:
His teachings have been translated into effective public policy. thats something none of the groups you mentioned have ever been able to do.
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They are just underfunded (with the exception of Brookings Institution) and Bush only paid attention to his friends at the Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute.

Formulating effective public policy is an important way of helping the poor and unfortunate. I think Jesus would help the poor by using his intellect to do that as that will help many people.
 
vern_humphrey said:
So you tell us how you think Jesus would govern.

And while you’re at it, explain why He didn’t choose to be a temporal ruler when He was on earth.😉
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You’ll have to ask Jesus. But I don’t think that supporting a woman’s “right to choose” to abort her baby, among other things reflect the teachings of Jesus
 
zab said:
You’ll have to ask Jesus. But I don’t think that supporting a woman’s “right to choose” to abort her baby, among other things reflect the teachings of Jesus
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Who has said that? …No need to answer, as it is a rhetorical question, because no one has said it.
 
rlg94086 said:
Who has said that? …No need to answer, as it is a rhetorical question, because no one has said it.
You’ll have to ask Jesus. But I don’t think that supporting a woman’s “right to choose” to abort her baby, among other things reflect the teachings of Jesus
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Well, we liberals do support*** choice***.
Conservatives have a knack for taking good ideas–say, patriotism or faith–to the sort of ideologized extreme that brands the ideas as theirs and leads liberals to abandon them. **We’re seeing that now with the issue of choice and individual empowerment. Those very concepts used to be associated with liberal causes like abortion and voting rights. ** But over the last couple of decades, conservative intellectuals have roped them to a larger agenda to revolutionize government.
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You can begin to see a pattern here. Americans love the idea of choice–in the abstract. But when faced with the actual choices conservatives present, they aren’t buying. The reason is that conservatives have constructed choices that fail to take human nature into account. People like to have choices but feel quickly overwhelmed when they lack the information or expertise to decide confidently, and they turn downright negative when the choices themselves seem to put what they already have at risk. Conservatives were bound to make these mistakes because their very aim has been to transfer more risks from government to individuals so that government’s size and expenditures can be cut. That’s not a bargain most Americans will accept. They like choice just fine, but they won’t trade security to get it.
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washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0512.glastris.html
Unlike conservatives, liberals embrace true choice. And thus we are pro-choice and support the right to choose. You can expect liberals to support the pro-choice agenda, although in order to attract some religious people, it should not done so vociferously.
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ribozyme said:
They are just underfunded (with the exception of Brookings Institution) and Bush only paid attention to his friends at the Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute.

Formulating effective public policy is an important way of helping the poor and unfortunate. I think Jesus would help the poor by using his intellect to do that as that will help many people.
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They shouldnt get any govt funds. I wish that we would see much less"intellect" and much more common snese when formulating public policy.
 
estesbob said:
They shouldnt get any govt funds. I wish that we would see much less"intellect" and much more common snese when formulating public policy.
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Well, they don’t… private donors and foundations provide them with funds.
 
ribozyme said:
Well, we liberals do support*** choice***.

washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0512.glastris.html
Unlike conservatives, liberals embrace true choice. And thus we are pro-choice. You can expect liberals to support the pro-choice agenda, although in order to attract some religious people, it should not do so vociferously.
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The only choice the left supports is the choice to kill your child. The idea that they can fool the truly religious into supporting their agenda of promiscuity, abortion, eunthanasia , sexual perversion, income redistribution, isolationism, closed markets, etc is utter nonsense
 
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