Why would a Roman Catholic become Orthodox?

[chrisb]

I guees you don’t appreicate Vatican II then.

I don’t appreciate triumphalist grand-standing as if the Roman Catholic Church has never stumbled. Our history is rife with evidence that we do, indeed, stumble and some might argue have fallen…

2Ti 4:3 For there shall be a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers having itching ears:

I guess your proof-texting proves my point…

Its no presumption to know that you do not know me or my cultural background.

Then the presumption should be reciprocal shouldn’t it?

So Vatican II is our enemy then? Its incumbent upon all Catholics to know what the Church teaches.

No, I would say the spirit of the Age which inflamed the hearts and minds of those who fell into ignorance and drew the West into an embracing humanism at the expense of Holy Tradition.

Eph 4:3 Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Again with the proof-texting. Do you honestly thing ripping these sacred passages out of Holy Writ is doing them justice or is it more important to prostitute them for your own gain? Very Sad.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine.

To whom was this written? You? Or the Shepherds of the flock? Remember what James warned…

 

[bobzills]

It comes back to obedience to the irreversible dogma of the True Church.

I don’t see where the Catholic Church is all that much in favor of union with the E Orthodox Church. Let me give you an example of why I think that way. I read that the previous Pope said that he wanted both Churches to have the same date for Easter. Well, it would be very easy for the Catholic Church to have the same date for Easter as the E Orthodox Church. All you would need to do is to simply go with the calculation used by the E Orthodox Church and instantly, both Churches would have the same date for Easter.

 

[bogoljub]

I think this is paranoia. Do you deny Peter was primary even though he sinned?

1Ti 5:17 Let the priests that rule well be esteemed worthy of double honour: especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Tit 2:10 Not defrauding, but in all things shewing good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

Thats right, and I apply it with the mind of the Church in the same way the Fathers did to you as well as them who also depart even more sharply.

It comes back to obedience to the irreversible dogma of the True Church.

There will be. Or are you to believe Christs prayer will not be answered?

And in that sense as I understand it I only see seperate interpretations that say the same things. Though I am saddened that they are seperate in the first place. They shouldn’t be, we should be united for Christs sake.

There is a fine line there on both sides I think my friend. I am not anti-EO either. I am pro-Christ. His will comes before any tradition of men.

Let us always remember:

Eph 4:3 Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

God bless u !

If u want that the discussion continues stop to call the Holy and Apostolic Tradition the Tradition of man - we have shown enough that it fundamental to keep it otherwise u will be under anathema.

Because I thought u were rcc and not a prostestant !

In CHRIST

 

[bogoljub]

I think this is paranoia. Do you deny Peter was primary even though he sinned?

1Ti 5:17 Let the priests that rule well be esteemed worthy of double honour: especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Tit 2:10 Not defrauding, but in all things shewing good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

Thats right, and I apply it with the mind of the Church in the same way the Fathers did to you as well as them who also depart even more sharply.

It comes back to obedience to the irreversible dogma of the True Church.

There will be. Or are you to believe Christs prayer will not be answered?

And in that sense as I understand it I only see seperate interpretations that say the same things. Though I am saddened that they are seperate in the first place. They shouldn’t be, we should be united for Christs sake.

There is a fine line there on both sides I think my friend. I am not anti-EO either. I am pro-Christ. His will comes before any tradition of men.

Let us always remember:

Eph 4:3 Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

God bless !

It is not paranoia it is truth !

There is a difference between a personal sin and preaching heresy and be under anathema. The Popes are under anathema and innovated much things so for us there is no Bishop of Rome !
What u call Pope is not the ´canonical orthodox Bishop of Rome- but perhaps in future we will have an orthodox Patriarch of Rome again.
BTW did the orthodox go to Rome and persecuted the catholics or was it contrary the catholics went to Konstantinopel and persecuted orthodox and destroyed orthodox Temples and Churches, did your forfathers not destroy holy icons and other sacred vessels, should I tell u what they have done in the Hagia Sophia ? Where are the reliquies…?? Why are the horses of Konstantinopel in Venice in the St. Marks Cathedral, or the icons of the Theotkos like the Nikopia ? What happended in Serbia during the Dynastie of the Nemanjic ? They always tried to occopy Serbia and make it catholic - did we the same ? What was with the conversion of Bulgaria when St. Kyrill and St. Methodius were missionaries ? and so on …

In CHRIST

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

This thread is now closed. Thank you to all who have participated.

God bless!

Rachel