Why would you NOT want to be Anglican?

[kristie_m]

You know, I came back to the Catholic church via the Anglican church. What I discovered was that the Anglican church appealed to me when I was in a really awful place spiritually. I have since found it to be much much to liberal. I realize that there are “sects” that are more conservative than others, but on the whole, I think I much prefer the Catholic faith. Here I have a singular authority based both on scripture and tradition, and I don’t have to wonder what I’m supposed to believe, nor rely on my own limited understanding for moral guidence.

 

[peary]

Well, if that’s fullness, I don’t want it.

Well, you wouldn’t be the first one to deny the fullness of Faith. We live with a McDonald’s consumer mentality when it comes to Faith - “Have it YOUR way” - and certainly not the way which God desires and invites us to embrace.

 

[DJgang]

Granted, I’m a different sort of Anglican than Episcopalians, for whom I make no particular case. But when I went through the catechism class, lasting about 6 weeks, we were lectured out of the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, Spencer’s YE ARE THE BODY, a history of the Church, Tarsitano’s AN OUTLINE OF AN ANGLICAN LIFE, for Anglicanism specifically, and a book on liturgy that I can’t remember. And we got lots of handouts.

But then, I’m not an Episcopalian, granted.

GKC

GKC - just from reading your posts… you have a totally different experience in your Anglician Church, than I have had with the ECUSA…God bless!

 

[GKC]

GKC - just from reading your posts… you have a totally different experience in your Anglician Church, than I have had with the ECUSA…God bless!

I’m guessing my experience was different. But I didn’t experience the Episcopal Church, after about 1968, when I saw it was off the rails, and running wild. I went with the Continuing Anglicans. It was there I went through the catechism class. In 1966-68, when I was first exploring what I thought was a good idea, and checking out ECUSA, I was still Southern Baptist. It was a bad idea, but I didn’t notice it, in the parish I attended, right away.

Glad you made it out.

GKC

posterus traditus Anglicanus

 

[justinthemartyr]

again, a religion built on divorce, and the like by a king.

made Britney a saint…

speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

 

[GKC]

again, a religion built on divorce, and the like by a king.

made Britney a saint…

speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

Again with the Britney thing. Someone has to point me to the origin of this somewhere.

And nonono. Decree of nullity, not divorce. The story is a hobby of mine.

GKC

 

[brotherhrolf]

My ancestors were Scottish-Irish, heavy on the Irish. Which is usually the way I take it, neat.

I thank you for the kind wishes. And suspect I’d like your calligraphy.

Pax tecum, frater

GKC

Gosh, it is a real pleasure to deal with folks who know their history. How different the world might be if Catherine of Aragon had had a son that survived!

 

[bpbasilphx]

Gosh, it is a real pleasure to deal with folks who know their history. How different the world might be if Catherine of Aragon had had a son that survived!

Or Queen Mary Tudor, her daughter.

 

[GKC]

Gosh, it is a real pleasure to deal with folks who know their history. How different the world might be if Catherine of Aragon had had a son that survived!

I agree. I’m a fan of alternate history SF, and I can imagine quite a scenario. Or if the War of the Roses hadn’t been so fresh in memory.Or the Tudor dynasty had longer roots. Or the history of Stephen and Maude not been a supposed object lesson.

Or, even closer to home, if Mary, Henry’s sister, and the Prince of Castile had been matched, as was proposed. Before he became Charles VII. There’s an image.

Nice talking with you.

GKC

 

[CatherineJones]

Abortion! Infrequent celebration of the sacraments. Idiots who don’t even know how to hear confessions. Divorce-culture.

On the other hand, every time i reach out to Rome, I find some integrity stretching pronouncement like: de fide I should believe Anglican orders are invalid even though Anglicans were conditionally reordained with rites and intentions unquestionable in the interests of Roman concerns.

How in tarnation does one explain that to an unchurched pagan seeking truth???

 

[GKC]

Abortion! Infrequent celebration of the sacraments. Idiots who don’t even know how to hear confessions. Divorce-culture.

On the other hand, every time i reach out to Rome, I find some integrity stretching pronouncement like: de fide I should believe Anglican orders are invalid even though Anglicans were conditionally reordained with rites and intentions unquestionable in the interests of Roman concerns.

How in tarnation does one explain that to an unchurched pagan seeking truth???

Anglicans generally celebrate the Eucharist weekly, at least. IOW, it’s offered at every Sunday service and otherwise, as required. In my small parish, that’s twice on Sunday, Wed, Fri, and, at the Chapel, an additional Mass on Wed, and another on Tuesday.

What do you mean by infrequent celebration of the sacraments?

GKC

 

[peary]

Abortion! Infrequent celebration of the sacraments. Idiots who don’t even know how to hear confessions. Divorce-culture.

On the other hand, every time i reach out to Rome, I find some integrity stretching pronouncement like: de fide I should believe Anglican orders are invalid even though Anglicans were conditionally reordained with rites and intentions unquestionable in the interests of Roman concerns.

How in tarnation does one explain that to an unchurched pagan seeking truth???

Leave it to the Holy Spirit. It’s much easier that way!

 

[Schultzz]

I believe that you DO need prayers to help you discern.* I believe that spiritually you are quite blind.* Your logic seems to be that of "I am in MY fort, s---- you!* That’ s really Christian !??* I am ashamed of the people here that profess to be Catholics slamming another’s religion as you do.* I am Catholic and proud of it. I do NOT agree with everything that the RCC says.* Yet I AM obedient.* A time will come in the not too distant future where your faith may be tested.* You might need the prayers of many.* Will you question the validity of their prayers then?* Get real people, and don’t think that you are so exclusive that Catholic prayers are the only one God listens to and answers.* You can quote Doctrine and Church Laws and such, but where is the Charity in your heart? Where are the teachings and model of Jesus?* Get off your high horse while there is still time, or you may be rudely knocked off and wonder what hit you.* We need to join together - not to dilute our faiths, but to celebrate what we have in common.* I know that you are entitled to your opinion.* Unfortunately that’s mostly what you have as proof - your opinion.* I suggest you pray for discernment before you respond in self-righteous indignation.

 

[jblake]

GKC;:

Anglicans generally celebrate the Eucharist weekly, at least.

Where I went to school, there was one Anglican Service a month. This was a Eucharist Service. The priest had a circuit of four or five congregations. [Deliberately using the word “congregation”, since all of the services he performed were in private homes.]

The Wesleyian Chapel had one service a month. Lutherans came in with two services a month. (There was no church service on the fifth Sunday of the month.)

This was a very small town. One hotel — because every town needs a bar. One general store. A post office. A cemetery. A boarding school. Two church buildings. And nothing else.

xan

jonathon

 

[peary]

Where I went to school, there was one Anglican Service a month. This was a Eucharist Service. The priest had a circuit of four or five congregations. [Deliberately using the word “congregation”, since all of the services he performed were in private homes.]

The Wesleyian Chapel had one service a month. Lutherans came in with two services a month. (There was no church service on the fifth Sunday of the month.)

This was a very small town. One hotel — because every town needs a bar. One general store. A post office. A cemetery. A boarding school. Two church buildings. And nothing else.

xan

jonathon

I don’t understand how the Anglican church can have a valid Eucharist when they have rejected the very nature of the priesthood as well as what the Eucharist means. They don’t even have apostolic succession anymore.

 

[GKC]

Where I went to school, there was one Anglican Service a month. This was a Eucharist Service. The priest had a circuit of four or five congregations. [Deliberately using the word “congregation”, since all of the services he performed were in private homes.]

The Wesleyian Chapel had one service a month. Lutherans came in with two services a month. (There was no church service on the fifth Sunday of the month.)

This was a very small town. One hotel — because every town needs a bar. One general store. A post office. A cemetery. A boarding school. Two church buildings. And nothing else.

xan

jonathon

Doubtless there are exceptions to all rules. In my area, you can find parishes offering daily Mass, Evening Prayer/Even Song, Rosary and Confessions, regularly scheduled, and so on. In a non-parish situation, a circuit rider might be stretched to cover each congregation once a month.

On the other hand, no matter how often a Mass is scheduled, individual Anglicans aren’t going to be receiving more than once a day.

GKC

 

[GKC]

I don’t understand how the Anglican church can have a valid Eucharist when they have rejected the very nature of the priesthood as well as what the Eucharist means. They don’t even have apostolic succession anymore.

Boy, have we got a thread for you.

GKC

Anglicanus Catholicus

 

[emeraldcoast]

Anglicans generally celebrate the Eucharist weekly, at least. IOW, it’s offered at every Sunday service and otherwise, as required. In my small parish, that’s twice on Sunday, Wed, Fri, and, at the Chapel, an additional Mass on Wed, and another on Tuesday.

What do you mean by infrequent celebration of the sacraments?

GKC

I agree with you, GKC. As an Episcopalian, I try to receive the Eucharist twice a week–Sunday and Wednesday. Our church offers a lovely healing Mass on Wednesdays.

God Bless!

 

[thirdn6]

I don’t understand how the Anglican church can have a valid Eucharist when they have rejected the very nature of the priesthood as well as what the Eucharist means. They don’t even have apostolic succession anymore.

They never have valid Eucharist. Their clergy were intended to be ordained as ministers- NOT sacrificing priesthood. They didn’t have altars to begin with. They have tables. They don’t have “Eucharist” in their 2nd BCP- they have only “the Lord’s Supper” spelled out. They’ve substituted “table” in the Scriptures where it was supposed to read “altar”.
They somehow did some corrections in about 1662. But it was too late…

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Be angry, and sin not… Give not place to the devil.
Ephesians 4:26-27 +

 

[Dutchman]

Why? Because I was Anglican – for 49 years. After 9 meaningful years as a Roman Catholic, I wonder why I waited so long to leave the dysfunction of Anglicanism.