Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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That’s fine. But you have not advanced your argument yet that science evidences that human being evolved from non-human beings. Please stop deflecting and answer the question: What evidence?
See Stoneking et al. (2018) Alu Insertion Polymorphisms and Human Evolution: Evidence for a Larger Population Size in Africa.

See Isaac (1978) Food Sharing and Human Evolution: Archaeological Evidence from the Plio-Pleistocene of East Africa

I get 4,600,000 hits on Google Scholar for “human evolution”. The rest you can find for yourself.

rossum
 
The abstract indicates nothing about humans evolving from non-humans. As you think this article supports your claim, kindly cite the evidence.
Ditto this article.
I get 4,600,000 hits on Google Scholar for “human evolution”. The rest you can find for yourself.
Which means you have nothing to offer as evidence. Yours is an act of faith, not science.
 
Which means you have nothing to offer as evidence.
Which means you have no idea what 4,600,000 means.
Yours is an act of faith, not science.
And another religious person trying to criticise science by making it appear to be a religion. You do realise that, in effect, you are saying that religion is inferior to science with this comparison?

“Science is superior to religion so since evolution is “faith” is must be inferior to science.”

I am surprised by how many religious people use this argument and place science above religion.

rossum
 
Thank you for proving my point that you have no real argument against macro-evolution, specifically against the evolution of Chrysopa downesi from C. carnea .

After all this time arguing against macro-evolution, surely you have something better than that. As o_mlly pointed out, it is hardly the first time I have posted a link to the Tauber and Tauber paper.
Once again you fail to grasp the circular argument you are making. What makes them different? Loss of function once had.
 
And another religious person trying to criticise science by making it appear to be a religion. You do realise that, in effect, you are saying that religion is inferior to science with this comparison?

“Science is superior to religion so since evolution is “faith” is must be inferior to science.”

I am surprised by how many religious people use this argument and place science above religion.
Yours is “blind faith” without evidence.

Religion (Catholicism) is faith with evidence, logic and reason.
 
I thought this was made perfectly clear countless times before.

I would add that science is not only on the wrong track, but has erred in carving up humanity based on gross morphological differences. Trying to think clearly, the reality of a species boils down to its being the gene pool of organisms which can produce offspring. Clearly, since we carry the DNA of these long ago people, they should be classified as human in scientific terms. But, the definition of species seems to be as slippery as an Anguilla rostrata , anything to support the theory that classifies even genetic abnormalities such as Procambarus virginalis as a separate species.
Yes, morphology is being passed by. I have made this point over and over.
 
As a Catholic, religion, meaning Divine revelation, comes first, then science. Science cannot, by its own rules, consider Divine revelation as valid. The Church can teach us about both.
 
But they are not genetic abnormalities once they reproduce and become the statistical norm. By very definition their ability to do so creates different and varied genomes ovee generations. They great thing about bacteria is they reproduce with such speed, so we can see the allele changes rapidly.

I’ve just jumped into this thread and really surprised by some arguments.
After all these changes in bacteria what have they become? Still bacteria.
 
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Once again you fail to grasp the circular argument you are making. What makes them different? Loss of function once had.
And also a gain in function that they didn’t have before. C. downesi has lost the old function of breeding with C. chrysopa and has gained the new function of breeding with C. downsei.

That is both a loss, as you say, and a gain.

Also is has the ability to be well camouflaged in deciduous trees and gained the ability to be well camouflaged in evergreen trees because one of the mutations altered its colouration.

Again a loss and a gain.

What makes them different is change, and the change involves both loss and gain. Your fixation on loss is causing you to ignore half the effects of the change.

Either way, this example is an example of the natural evolution of species, and so confirms the title of this thread.

rossum
 
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Evolution deals only with the material components of living things.
And why they cannot ever let the divine foot in the door. This is quite a limited view of the universe. Schools are only allowed to teach our children “partial” truths. And we are OK with it. Sad.
 
I get 4,600,000 hits on Google Scholar for “human evolution”. The rest you can find for yourself.
Not this again.

I get 12,980,000,000 results on “design”.

Google scholar returns 7,440,000 results!

I win.
 
Yours is “blind faith” without evidence.
I have posted evidence and we are discussing is on this thread.

Please post evidence of your deity (or any deity) creating a new species. We are discussing how species emerge, and so far only one side has any evidence to support it’s position: the evolution side.

Where is your evidence? Catholicism does not require disbelief in the evolution of species, so Catholicism cannot help you there. You need specific (!) evidence of the non-evolutionary origin of any species, except the very first.

rossum
 
After all these changes in bacteria what have they become? Still bacteria.
After all these changes in eukaryotes what have they become? Still eukaryotes.

You do realise that humans are eukaryotes, don’t you? Our cells have nuclei and mitochondria; We are eukaryotes, and our ancestors were eukaryotes all the way back to a single-cell eukaryote ancestor.

Your lack of relevant biological knowledge is showing here. Bacteria, archea and eukaryotes are at the same level in the tree of life.

rossum
 
I have posted evidence and we are discussing is on this thread.

Please post evidence of your deity (or any deity) creating a new species. We are discussing how species emerge, and so far only one side has any evidence to support it’s position: the evolution side.

Where is your evidence? Catholicism does not require disbelief in the evolution of species, so Catholicism cannot help you there. You need specific (!) evidence of the non-evolutionary origin of any species, except the very first.
The issue is the definition of species. Genetic differentiation is showing our previous classification system to be weak and incomplete.

This is the latest and shows the tight boundaries. It shows the vast chasms macr-evolution has to overcome.

Sweeping gene survey reveals new facets of evolution​

Sweeping gene survey reveals new facets of evolution

It is textbook biology, for example, that species with large, far-flung populations—think ants, rats, humans—will become more genetically diverse over time.
But is that true?
“The answer is no,” said Stoeckle, lead author of the study, published in the journal Human Evolution .
For the planet’s 7.6 billion people, 500 million house sparrows, or 100,000 sandpipers, genetic diversity “is about the same,” he told AFP.
The study’s most startling result, perhaps, is that nine out of 10 species on Earth today, including humans, came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.
“This conclusion is very surprising, and I fought against it as hard as I could,” Thaler told AFP.

Read more at: Sweeping gene survey reveals new facets of evolution
 
You do realise that humans are eukaryotes, don’t you? Our cells have nuclei and mitochondria; We are eukaryotes, and our ancestors were eukaryotes all the way back to a single-cell eukaryote ancestor.
Of course we are. We have to be for macro-evolution. lol
 
It is an example of variation within, aka adaptation. aka micro-evolution.
False. They are separate species and cannot interbreed. Why do you think that false statements will convince anyone with even a passing knowledge of biology?

They are two species within the Chrysopa genus, but they are still two different biological species. Your attempts to wriggle round the facts are all too obvious I’m afraid.

rossum
 
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