Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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buss0042 said:
Or, it you take a different approach - as sin entered the world and became more and more prevalent, humans’ lives began to degrade from their original sanctity?
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Both/And - and now stack epigenetics on top of it all. Actions of an individual can and do effect their offspring for several generations.

Exodux 34:7 maintaining his faithful love to thousands, forgiving fault, crime and sin, yet letting nothing go unchecked, and punishing the parent’s fault in the children and in the grandchildren to the third and fourth generation!’
 
It took 10 minutes to get to this last post - is there any way to view newest posts on top like on the old forum design?
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Okay, I just need to hear you say that humans did not live for 600 years. If you can say that, we can still have a real conversation.

If you can’t come to that conclusion, we ought not continue
 
buffalo said:
The lifespan graphs do not show one generation loss.
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Since the Flood was relatively recent, where is your evidence of this sort of lifespan in the fossil remains of humans pre-Flood and in the immediate post-Flood period. For example, tooth wear after 200 years would be substantially more than tooth wear after 70 years.

You are making claims without evidence, yet the evidence is potentially available. Why do you not reference it?

If you want to convince a scientist, whether Christian or not, you will need to provide scientific evidence of your material claims. Your claims are notably lacking in evidence here.

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buss0042 said:
Okay, I just need to hear you say that humans did not live for 600 years. If you can say that, we can still have a real conversation.

If you can’t come to that conclusion, we ought not continue
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Yes, they lived longer than 600 years. Bye.
 
Last remark - if you’re going to legitimately hold that view while at the same time not being self-delusional, you’d better have more basis for it than one opinion on how to read a book, lest you fall into the old fallacy of “the bible is God’s word, so its true. Why is it true? Cus its God’s word” circular argument. Find the (real) science, and maybe someday make your case. Peace out
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Spontaneous Mutations are discussed here .
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I know all about spontaneous mutations. Why do you paste this paper? It does not respond to the request: Cite the text that shows the experimental data that supports your claim that such data for spontaneous mutations exist.

It seems your argumentative tactic is to copy some non-related links as if there is something in those pages that is meaningful to your position and leave it to me to find it. I’m not playing that game anymore. Copy the link and cite the applicable text.
 

Could humans live to 500 years old? Scientists believe genetic tweaks could significantly extend our lifespan​

  • Californian scientists tweaked two genetic pathways in the worm Caenorhabditis elegans to amplify its lifespan
  • They said the worms lived to the human equivalent of 400 to 500 years
  • Research raises the prospect of anti-ageing treatments based on genetic interactions, and the next step is to investigate if the effects occur in mice

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lol at the quick google search. Find a peer reviewed article where it… let me state this very unambiguously… ACTUALLY happens. I’ll hold you to the same standards you hold evolution believers to. Nice try
 
John_Martin said:
It took 10 minutes to get to this last post - is there any way to view newest posts on top like on the old forum design?
Thanks.
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If you want to see every reply you have to click on WATCHING at the bottom of the page.
 
o_mlly said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Spontaneous Mutations are discussed here .
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I know all about spontaneous mutations. Why do you paste this paper? It does not respond to the request: Cite the text that shows the experimental data that supports your claim that such data for spontaneous mutations exist.

It seems your argumentative tactic is to copy some non-related links as if there is something in those pages that is meaningful to your position and leave it to me to find it. I’m not playing that game anymore. Copy the link and cite the applicable text.
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The link above says this in the very first sentence:
Spontaneous mutations arise from a variety of sources…
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They “arise.” That means they “exist.” How could they “arise” and “not exist?”
 
buffalo said:
Could humans live to 500 years old? Scientists believe genetic tweaks could significantly extend our lifespan
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Oh. Now “Scientists believe…” is evidence. Except when scientists believe that man evolved from earlier hominid species, then the scientists are talking rubbish.

Think how much money we could save on science research. All we have to do is to ask buffalo what science really says and save al that money spent on useless science research.

Your bias is very obvious here, buffalo. Science in only right when it agrees with what you say, and wrong when it disagrees. Do you really have to be so obvious about it?

rossum
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
They “arise.” That means they “exist.” How could they “arise” and “not exist?”
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EXPERIMENTAL DATA? As Lederberg experiment showed, they don’t arise. That means experimentally they have not been shown to exist. Spare me the adolescent games. You have not had a meaningful post in this exchange. See you around.
 
o_mlly said:
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LeafByNiggle:
They “arise.” That means they “exist.” How could they “arise” and “not exist?”
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EXPERIMENTAL DATA? As Lederberg experiment showed, they don’t arise.
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Again, his experiment does not show they don’t arise ever… It just shows the don’t arise in direct response to exposure to penicillin.
 
buffalo said:
Could humans live to 500 years old? Scientists believe genetic tweaks could significantly extend our lifespan
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This article proves nothing with regard to our discussion. It’s talking about how to scientifically allow people to live longer lives now.
 
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