In response to your reply from ts. 1. You show me evidence that says there was any formalised RC Church in the first few centuries after Jesus and the Apostles died.
I’ll be happy to.
During apostolic times,
You DO know that the book of Romans was written to the Church of Rome…correct? That book was written around year 58. At that time, Paul writes,
" 7* To all God’s beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 8* First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is proclaimed in all the world…[Rm 1]
Paul concludes his letter " 17* I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create divisions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. 18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, * and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded. 19* For while your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, I would have you wise as to what is good and guileless as to what is evil; 20* then the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. " [Rm 16]
Do you know who Clement of Rome is? He was bishop of Rome, the 3rd successor to St Peter. In the year 80 Clement settles sedition in Corinth among THEIR bishops. St John is still alive living in either Ephesus or Patmos. He hasn’t written the book of Revelation yet at the time of Clement’s letter to the Corinthians… Here is his letter
newadvent.org/fathers/1010.htm
Do you know who Ignatius, bishop of Antioch is? Ignatius was a disciple of St John. In approx year 107, he writes 6 letters to the Church in 6 locations. He only writes in his letter to the Church of Rome, that the Church of Rome holds the presdidency. Ignatius is also writing that the Church is called the Catholic Church. You can read his letters online.
After the apostles have died.
Ever hear if bishop Irenaeus? He was originally from Smyrna. He writes in his work “Against Heresies” Book 3 Ch 3 ~ year 170 you can read his letters online. Here’s an exerpt
"2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its pre- eminent authority that is, the faithful everywhere, in as much as the apostolic tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere. 3. The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric. This man, as he had seen the blessed apostles, and had been conversant with them, might be said to have the preaching of the apostles still echoing [in his ears], and their traditions before his eyes
I’ll stop here due to space.
ts:
Point 2. Who said I was ignorant of Scripture? Maybe of traditions yes, but not Scripture
what you said in that post contradicted what scripture taught.
ts:
.Point 3 The last Supper was the time that Jesus met with all His 12 desciples, and shared a meal with them, bread and wine. It was a special meal because He was about to die. That cant be what you are referring to because Jesus was still alive and it was He that said Do this In Memory of Me. After that people broke bread together in memory, of Him, as He asked. When the RC Church formed centuries later, it was around that time, the formality of The Eucharist was introduced by Papal doctrines.AS far as I understand it. Correct me again if Im in major error
Your error is truly profound
ts:
.Point 4. NOWHERE does Scripture say that missing coming together to worship God is a deadly mortal Sin.
I quoted scripture not my opinion to prove you wrong.
ts:
It is encouraged to attend regularly and as often as one IS ABLE to which isIm sure The Lord would have it the way . No one is "blowing off"as you so nicely put it, when for whatever reason, they cannot go to a service or Mass. Thats like saying if I dont keep a medical appointment for some reason, I will die, or something else stupid.
that is a total corruption of the scriptures I quoted
ts:
Do you really believe God set that rule out? If so, you need to read Scriptures yourself my friend.
Why do you ask that question? I used scripture. Scripture set the rule. You’ve seen the scripture that supports the point I made. You’re not ignorant of it anymore. Therefore, you KNOW it is God who set the rule.
ts:
Point 5. You cannot declare that all those wonderful christians outside of the RC Church, are not Christians because they worship in a different way than Catholics do.
I didn’t say they weren’t Christian. I said they weren’t churches. And I said they don’t have the Eucharist.
