Wife does not like my mom so I can't visit

  • Thread starter Thread starter Tom_B
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Posted by monica fan: “I have a daughter in law who is a very strong feminist and atheist. She says that I have corrupted my son and everyone I come in contact with by my Catholic faith.”

I didn’t realize the feminist movement was still around…Sounds like your daughter in law is a real charmer…
 
My prayers are with you ,it sounds like there is a lot of pain going on inside for you! My experience in family not getting on is sad, and I’d just like to say… Life is to short to be apart from who God has chosen us to be a part of. We only have one Mother and Father and as our commandments say “Honor thy Mother and Father”. We can’t change our families life styles if we don’t like them, however we do have the ability to accept that they choose to live a different life to us and we can pray … never underestimate the power of prayer!:amen:
Chelle
 
40.png
catsrus:
A loonggg time! 15 whole years! Thanks for calling it wisdom but I think of it as self defense, marriage defense, etc.
Whatever you call it, it is good! But I figured that it took time to come to terms with it. May we all learn from what we have experienced and be better mothers-in-law (when our turn comes)!
 
Stand up for yourself not your wife if you don’t agree with her. Life is too short not to be close to the ones we love. We are ALL in God’s family. If your wife doesn’t like your mom that’s her choice - she shouldn’t be making that choice for you or the children. If you really want to see your family then go see them & if she doesn’t want to be a part of that then she can stay home. It’s more complicated with the kids being involved. If the kids want to see her and they want to see your mom then there should be no reason why they should not be able to. Your wife should respect you and your decisions. I would suggest speaking to a priest about this by yourself & then having the priest talk to your wife. Maybe she’ll respect what he has to say,

Good luck.
 
Tom B:
Thanks everyone for the very good advice I don’t have alot of time right now to make a real lengthy reply. It makes me feel a little better to know that I’m not the only one in this situation. In brief my wife does not like my mom’s personality. My wife is more on the serious side when it comes to raising children. My mom is a very fun loving type. What my mom does as simple teasing stuff like “I’m gone a get you” or “get out of here” to my then 2 yr. old. In a joking way. My wife sees as over the top. Believe me my mom is well accepted and loved by my two nieces. There is not anything real bizarre about my mom. She’s just not like the more serious parents she had. I’ll see if I can get my wife to reply to this later. Thanks again I’ll enjoy reading through all these replies once my children are asleep.
OOOOOOOOOhhhhhh! Could it be that your side of the family is sarcastic? This can be like a foreign language to some. It’s hard to remember that not everybody speaks it! If your mom lives close, why don’t you take the kids over to see her on non-holiday days more often. Your wife doesn’t have to go. Also, holidays add a lot of pressure to some. Maybe a lower key event would be better.

I can’t guess if there are any other extenuating circumstances so I won’t. From what you’ve told us, your wife is being unreasonable and unless your mother is doing something sinful your wife should respect you honoring her. She seems to be the one making you choose one over the other, not your mother. She might also want to put herself in her MIL’s shoes. Someday your kids will probably have in-laws of their own and how would she like it if they decided her grandkids shouldn’t see her? You’re the head of the family and she should be submissive. If you’re wondering, I’m a gal so nobody can say “typical male” about my response.
 
Dear BRC,

Unfortunately, the feminist movement is alive and kicking, especially since they see their movement losing ground lately. I don’t think people are aware of how much it has influenced the way women respond to things today. Have you noticed how women always seem to be the one in control in typical sitcoms and movies, while the men are submissive? I think many young women have grown up thinking that this is the way relationships are supposed to be. I’ve talked to many women my age who have been treated terribly by their daughters in law. One of my friends was given a list of “ten things I hate about you” from her daughter in law. Another one told her mother in law that she couldn’t call them for help after she had had two strokes. I don’t think Tom is alone in his problem with his wife. It’s becoming fairly typical. Luckily, Tom’s wife is Catholic and hopefully can be reasoned with. My daughter in law tells me she doesn’t have to follow the golden rule because she isn’t Christian.
 
Tom B:
My wife always makes it very difficult for me to see my extended family. I have 3 children ages 1, 5 and 6 and my widow mom hardly knows them. We are a Catholic Family, go to church regularly. My mom is a bit boisterous fun loving lady. My wife for some reason thinks she is evil and tries to limit any interaction between my children and her. Another holiday approaches – Thanksgiving I would like to see my Mom, divorced Brother and my two nieces and my brother’s girl friend but the wife is putting a damper on this. If I go she says then my Family will not be invited to an upcoming birthday party for my oldest son. She is quite controlling and will have here way with this. She has a lot of control over the kids being a stay at home mom. The kids love her and always take her side.

This problem happed around the time of my second child and it seems to keep getting worse. The wife blames me saying I don’t stand up for her.

Any advice.
Take my advice Tom: TRY to stand up to your mom and put your wife first as hard as it is! Marriage means leave and cleave–and your wife obviously does not feel like you love her enough to totally separate emotionally from your mom. Are their any apron strings still attached may I ask? I would take your wife’s feelings into account FIRST AND FOREMOST before your mother’s. It’s too bad you all can’t get along great–but that’s life–and us wives need husbands who can be strong, be a man and put us first! This actually might help the situation!

I don’t get along at all with my mother-in-law–from the moment I met her. She’s bossy, controlling, un-loving, abusive, takes no interest in me whatsoever, only her grandkids! And she’s really quite a bitter, awful woman really. And my hubby can’t understand why we don’t get along. He has always had a hard time defending me and/or standing up for me because she is so intimidating. This has only made matters worse. I must put my family first and if a relationship (any relationship) causes grief for anybody–it must not be one nourished. Family life is too important these days. If someone cannot try to be supportive, but only abusive, I think then they lose the privilege of relationship even with the grandkids in this case. Spouses and kids MUST come first before parents!!! You see, if you don’t stand up and protect your wife, your wife is trying to protect her family from negativity. It’s a natural instinct. Please try to see it!!! She needs YOU Tom!!!

Just pray about it and try the above–O.K.? It’s high time to cut the apron strings!!! Before you lose your wife and kids!!! And your efforts will be noticed by your wife. Try it and see!!!
 
Poor Tom, we’re all projecting our own experiences onto yours. I’m sorry Tom. You need to do what you think is best for your own situation. I’ll do what I do best and pray instead of give advice. God bless!
 
Tom B:
We’ve went to consoling a few times but It became difficult having 3 kids. The wife does not like to leave them with anyone. Beside she breast feeds the youngest. We’ve had our Priest over. but he was not able to take sides or offer much advice besides telling us to see a counselor.
If you’re asking if your wife’s behavior is unacceptable, the answer is “yes.” I’d be appalled if a husband set himself up as so in control of the home that he denied his wife access to her family or refused counselling. Gently but firmly put your foot down, get a sitter–I would suggest finding another mom, not a teen–and go see a Catholic counselor for as many times as it takes. Your wife will protest, but it is no good to set yourself up as if you’re a great Catholic mom when you’re not willing to be a wife first.

I’m a stay-at-home mom, too. Breast-feeding is no excuse. Women hold down full time jobs outside the home and continue to breastfeed. What you want to do, you find a way to do.

That said, you and your wife can decide in counselling how you’re going to handle the situation with your family. Together. I’m in the “you marry the family, not just the man” camp, but when it comes to *your *family, the two of you are the experts. Maybe the only thing you’ll learn in counselling is how to agree to disagree, but that’s not what you seem to have now.
 
BLB_Oregon said:
“you marry the family, not just the man” camp, but when it comes to *your *family, the two of you are the experts. Maybe the only thing you’ll learn in counselling is how to agree to disagree, but that’s not what you seem to have now.

Sorry but you DO NOT “marry the family, you marry the man” or woman. You might have to deal with the family, but there is ALOT to leaving and cleaving–to the SPOUSE that is–not the parents. Jesus said it for a very important reason. A person must totally leave the parents, emotionally and financially before marriage or they’re in for alot of trauma!!!
 
40.png
mlchance:
If my wife didn’t want to visit my mother, my wife could stay home during those infrequent visits. If she didn’t want the children to come with me, that’d be just too bad, because I will not deprive my children of contact with their grandparents.

– Mark L. Chance.
Well Mark–what if your mom said negative, unsupportive and mean things to the kids about your wife, their mom? Is this healthy for the kids? NO!!! Then how would you handle it? Hopefully, you would let your mom know this is unacceptable.

This is what has occurred in my case with my MIL. Therefore, after many years of it, and just “taking it”–I don’t rely on them anymore for babysitting!!! It was a very abusive and sick situation. Some grandmothers want to be “pre-emminent” many times, usurping the mother role of their daughter in law. SICK–yes, but many times true, as in my case. And often times their sons don’t see it, or do nothing about it.

After years of demeaning abuse, especially while in their home, now I just tell my husband he is free to go visit his mother whenever he wishes, but I don’t care to come along.

Good Luck Tom~~
 
40.png
sparkle:
Sorry but you DO NOT “marry the family, you marry the man” or woman. You might have to deal with the family, but there is ALOT to leaving and cleaving–to the SPOUSE that is–not the parents. Jesus said it for a very important reason. A person must totally leave the parents, emotionally and financially before marriage or they’re in for alot of trauma!!!
If you are saying that the marital relationship takes priority over all others: absolutely. If you are saying that a person had better be mature enough to be an emotional adult in their own family before starting a new one: absolutely. But keep in mind that making an effort to separate a person from their family and friends can also be the mark of an unhealthy need to control that person. That is part of a normal, healthy relationship.

We don’t know what’s going on in this family. Their parish priest met with them about this problem and suggested professional counselling. The husband wants it, but his wife is dragging her heels. That does not bode well for the level of communication or mutual respect going on.
 
Dear Tom,

Do I ever understand where you are coming from. I am a mother to two married sons. I have experienced wrath from both my daughter in laws. What’s even more interesting is that the two daughter in laws don’t get along with each other either. Probably because they are both controlling women and get away with it with their husbands. For several years, I tried putting out the fires and only got myself in deeper. When my husband died suddenly, I spent even the first night alone even though it was only a few hours after his death. My sons nor their wives gave their time or support to be with me. I was widowed for several years and in the beginning, I would receive a phone call maybe once a week from my sons. Now, I never hear from them unless they want something. I took all of this to the foot of the cross and prayed, prayed, and continue to pray to forgive all of them for their behavior.

Just ONE example: I was hospitalized about six months after my husband’s death. I was very near death. I had septicemia and the infection affected my heart and kidneys. I prayed constantly the prayer to the Divine Mercy and miraculously I pulled through. One son did visit me a couple of times and phoned almost every day while I was in the hospital. When I was to be released, I called the other son to come and take me home. It was on Thanksgiving Day and the hospital staff was operating on a skeleton crew, therefore, discharge took a couple of hours. His wife called me at the hospital demanding to talk to her husband and read him the riot act as to why he wasn’t coming home because they were having dinner at her parent’s & they were waiting on dinner. She called me the next day and yelled some more.

There are many, many more instances of this type of painful behavior. I did come to the realization that I cannot tell either one of the girls what wonderful sons they were to raise. The truth is, they were. They were outstanding students in school, never involved with alcohol or drugs, attended Mass regularly, very respectful of my husband and me. Instead of their wives being proud of their husband’s growth and responsibilities, they seemed to resent hearing it from me. Now, I say nothing. I avoid, at all costs, discussing any part of their husband’s life before their marriages.

What it all comes down to and what I suggest to your mother, Tom, is to tell her to let it go. She needs to ask herself, “What does this have to do with eternity?” This is very hard to do but it can be done. I still find myself, in the privacy of my home, crying tears of loneliness for the absence of my sons in my life. We are responsible for our OWN actions and not of others, even if it is our kids.

I think it’s wonderful, Tom, that you love your mother so very much. I think my sons love me also. It’s just unfortunate that their wives are so insecure and jealous that they can’t share a part of their life with a mother who gave them life.

Someday, your wife will be a mother in law and she will then reflect on how she treated your mother. The old saying of what goes around, comes around is sometimes true. The sad part is that it will be too late for her to make ammends with your mother and ask for forgiveness since the chances of your mother being still on this earth are slim.
 
40.png
BLB_Oregon:
But keep in mind that making an effort to separate a person from their family and friends can also be the mark of an unhealthy need to control that person. That is part of a normal, healthy relationship.
I meant to say that is not part of a normal, healthy relationship.

The desire to continue to have a relationship with your parents, OTOH, and for your parents to have a relationship with your children and spouse if at all possible is normal, healthy, and appropriate. There are sometimes toxicities within a family that prevent that, but that should not be assumed to be the case until an effort has been made or evidence already exists that proves otherwise.

My mother-in-law, bless her sweet humble soul, lives with us… and it was my idea. It isn’t often that this arrangement works and there are sacrifices to be made, but when it does work, it really is great. I am not, however, going to assume that any such arrangement is in my future, should my kids marry. We’re a rather rare case. Unless the parent is frail and needs to be taken care of, I would urge everyone reflect long and hard before taking this on. “Easier in than out, said the crab in the pot.”
 
I think BLB is absolutely correct. Unless your mother is a lunatic, or very cruel, then it is not fair to keep her away from you and her grandchildren. Everyone has his or her idiosyncracies, and part of being a good person is being able to empathize–put yourself in the other person’s shoes. I can’t imagine the pain of not seeing my children or my grandchildren. How can your wife do this?

My mother-in-law has her negative aspects, but I cherish the things she does for my children. They love her cooking, and my daughter is learning to sew from her. I see how much joy my children bring to my in-laws, and I can brag about the kids to them because they are grandparents and want to hear the good stuff.

Your mother sounds like a fun woman who has a slightly different view of life than your wife. Viva la difference! What a boring world if we were all the same. Try asking your wife to have a little empathy.
 
40.png
sparkle:
Well Mark–what if your mom said negative, unsupportive and mean things to the kids about your wife, their mom? Is this healthy for the kids? NO!!! Then how would you handle it? Hopefully, you would let your mom know this is unacceptable.
I am more than capable of standing up to my mother and father should the need arise, even to include the one time I told them both to leave my house when I felt their comments about the Catholic Church were entirely out of line. I can do this because I know, my wife knows, my parents know, and my in-laws know that I am in charge of my family.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Wow! I just read through all of the posts. Until a few days ago, I thought this was just a problem that I had. Then, I found myself standing around after work talking with some co-workers. They all had similar circumstances. I guess I can relate to the part about not understanding what is going on in my wife’s head about my family. One example was that my sister made a comment about us not visiting them on Christmas Day. I did not interpret her comment as an attack, but my wife did. My wife wanted me to defend her, but I didn’t even perceive the comment as being an attack. Any advice on how to recognize when I should speak up. My feeling was that my wife and I made the decision and that’s final. I wasn’t about to waste time arguing over something that was already decided. But, I still didn’t receive the comment by my sister the way my wife did. That’s where most of our problems between my family and my wife usually occur. She hears it one way and I hear it another way. Then, she makes a comment like “You can go see them by yourself.” Then I say that I’ll take the kids and go visit. Then she says that I can’t take the kids with me. I really believe that there is validity to her feelings, but I don’t know how to fix the situation. All I know is that I loved seeing my grandparents when I was growing up and I want the same for my children. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

Luke
 
Tom B:
My wife always makes it very difficult for me to see my extended family. I have 3 children ages 1, 5 and 6 and my widow mom hardly knows them. We are a Catholic Family, go to church regularly. My mom is a bit boisterous fun loving lady. My wife for some reason thinks she is evil and tries to limit any interaction between my children and her. Another holiday approaches – Thanksgiving I would like to see my Mom, divorced Brother and my two nieces and my brother’s girl friend but the wife is putting a damper on this. If I go she says then my Family will not be invited to an upcoming birthday party for my oldest son. She is quite controlling and will have here way with this. She has a lot of control over the kids being a stay at home mom. The kids love her and always take her side.

This problem happed around the time of my second child and it seems to keep getting worse. The wife blames me saying I don’t stand up for her.

Any advice.
Ya, be a man and take control of your family. Sorry if that sounds a bit short and presumptuous, but because I allowed my first wife to dictate the tone of my family, she lost respect for me and left me for another guy. There is a way to resume control gently, but firmly. I’d recommend that you get a copy of the book Man of steel and Velvet. Please don’t take offense to this post. I’ve just been there so I know what you are probably going through.
 
40.png
mlchance:
I am more than capable of standing up to my mother and father should the need arise, even to include the one time I told them both to leave my house when I felt their comments about the Catholic Church were entirely out of line. I can do this because I know, my wife knows, my parents know, and my in-laws know that I am in charge of my family.

– Mark L. Chance.
EXCELLENT!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top