Will not vote for Trump, but no pro-life Democrats?

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None of these things is true. Palestinian citizens have the same rights as Jews in Israel; something that’s not true in the rest of the Middle EAst. Did you know no Jew can be a citizen of Jordan, and none can own land there at all? Talk about apartheid states.

There are Arab generals in the Israeli army, and Arab members of parliament. There are Arab millionaires in Israel. And Israel, like the U.S. has the power of eminent domain. If, for reasons of national security or convenience, it condemns church property, it pays for it.
 
Ridgerunner said:
One should not let cynicism interfere with one’s moral courage. Throwing one’s vote away on a candidate one knows has no chance but about which one feels morally superior to vote for, is just an act of pride; nothing more.
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I disagree wholeheartedly. If neither main candidate is a option a person can live with themselves voting for then they should vote their conscience. Just because we are currently stuck with a system that encourages a two party system, doesn’t mean we can’t vote otherwise.
 
Aquinas11 said:
If they just accepted election result and started to come up with ideas on helath insurance, taxes, immigration, etc etc, then voters would have been much more receptive to them and radicals like AOC wouldn’t have a foothold.
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I agree with all of that, but at the same time, the whole long drawn out Russia thing has been a hamster wheel for the dems. What horrors would they have tried to enact if they hadn’t had that to chew on? It has kept them quite busy and that might be a good thing.

Our nightmare would of course be if AOC was able to get her new fat big green deal off the ground. Even Nancy P thought it was a joke, but folks like de Blasio come out of the woodwork to actually endorse it, giving it some sort of wild legitimacy. THAT is scary.

The AOC gang should just stick to keeping supersized sugary drinks and salt out of New York restaurants. Folks like that don’t need to be writing laws AT ALL. Just my .02.
 
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Palestinian citizens have the same rights as Jews in Israel;
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No, no, no—Not Arabs who live in the West Bank or Gaza. They DO NOT have the rights of an Israeli citizen.

You mean Arab Israeli citizens, not the Palestinians who live in the occupied territories. that is a very, very important distinction.
 
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RealisticCatholic said:
I will not vote for Trump in the 2020 election.

I do not believe he endorses Christian principles in his lifestyle or policies.

But there are also no pro-life Democrats that I know of.

How to proceed?
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I can’t tell you how to vote, but personally, I will vote for Trump.

Reason: I do NOT vote for individuals. I vote for platforms. The Presidency isn’t a person, it’s an institution. The Trump Presidency is arguably the most pro-life platform ever. And they will continue to select good Justices & federal judges, vs some of the disappointing choices other Republicans have made.

I voted AGAINST Trump in the Primary. However, now that he’s in there, I support him because we cannot afford one of these far left democrats from winning the Presidency. As much as a Hillary Presidency scared me, every single Democrat currently running for President (except Biden) scares me more than Hillary did.

We don’t always get the leaders we want, but a lot of times we get the leaders we need. Regardless if you like him or not, (besides judicial appointments) the Trump Presidency is really forcing the far left out of the shadows and reveal who they really are.
 
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Yes. Arab citizens of Israel. West Bank Palestinians do not consider themselves Israeli citizens and are not. West Bank Jews (about 1/3 of the population) do.
 
Being pro-life is the issue with me. I’m not pushing my views on anyone else.

Louisiana has pro-life democrats, I can document this but please look it up for oneself so as not to derail the thread. North Dakota has had close to such. Other examples can be brought up.

It’s such an important issue to me, if one were pro-life either party, if they brought to the table, gun control, socialized medicine, whatever issue, if they are pretty staunchly pro-life and their platform mirrors that, I’d have little problem voting for them.
 
I’m sure one can find anti-Semitic articles easily.

One can also find articles about the Arab members of the Israeli parliament, of whom there are not a few.

List of Arab members of the Knesset - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

As to Israel barring Christians or anyone else from Gaza, there are “Christian” Hamas members who would kill Jews as readily as Muslim ones. Evn so, Christians are leaving Gaza. After 2,000 years, Christians disappearing from Gaza

Christian numbers are growing in Israel, the only place in the Middle East where they are.
 
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West Bank Jews (about 1/3 of the population) do.
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Most of the places where Jews live in the West Bank were annexed by the State of Israel. They are settlements and are under the Israeli Government, not the Palestinian Authority.
 
Canvas said:
Most of the places where Jews live in the West Bank were annexed by the State of Israel. They are settlements and are under the Israeli Government, not the Palestinian Authority.
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Probably true. And they’re virtual fortresses as well. Keeps Jews in the West Bank alive.
 
I think the Repubs are as close to a prolife party as we’re likely to see anytime soon.
 
No, but close. Those who take the part of Hamas might as well vow to kill Jews worldwide themselves, and plenty of Americans (mostly on the left) do exactly that.
 
President Trump may be a sinner but who on earth is not? Taking the life of babies is not okay. Trump also supports religious freedom. Democrats want nothing more than to take Christianity out of this Country. If you think that won’t happen, think again. And what has he done to make some of you hate him so much? Name another President that will give up their billionaire lifestyle to help our country and then donate every paycheck as President. An outsider is needed. Career politicians do not care about this country.
 
JohnL1987 said:
President Trump may be a sinner but who on earth is not? Taking the life of babies is not okay. Trump also supports religious freedom. Democrats want nothing more than to take Christianity out of this Country. If you think that won’t happen, think again. And what has he done to make some of you hate him so much? Name another President that will give up their billionaire lifestyle to help our country and then donate every paycheck as President. An outsider is needed. Career politicians do not care about this country.
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QFT, quoted for truth.
 
Victoria33 said:
It’s wrong to investigate Barak Obama over birther-gate? Oh dear. I can’t believe that, especially since all politicians are investigated. By the way, if we are criticizing people, I don’t know why Obama is singularly brought up. Obama voted against the born alive infant protection act of Illinois 4 different times.
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No, I mean things like this:
“He’s spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I’ll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I’m starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country.”
(March 28, 2011)
What facts were emerging? There weren’t any.

“I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding … I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can’t, if he can’t, if he wasn’t born in this country, which is a real possibility … then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.”
(April 2011)
What people did he have studying it? Can he name one of them? What were they finding that they couldn’t believe?

It’s like when he said this when addressing first responders in Houston after Hurricane Harvey:
“People went out in their boats to watch the hurricane. That didn’t work out too well.”
Nobody did that. Nobody told him that anyone did that. The first responders listening were utterly baffled at what he was even talking about.

He has made this kind of baffling false statement over and over and over again even since taking office. Let’s not have anyone pretend that any President of either party has ever done anything like it, because they haven’t. He has put himself in a class by himself in the category of political fabrication.
 
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