Will not vote for Trump, but no pro-life Democrats?

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Guys, I don’t think OP is looking for a thread debating trump. We have like 5000 threads for that already.
 
Yes, but that was about 50 years ago now. We are talking about Reagan and thereafter.

Unfortunately Blackmun thought he was doing a nice thing for rich doctors by keeping them from being prosecuted for doing abortions, and he created a monster.
 
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mrsdizzyd said:
I agree. The only way Dems have a chance is if they nominate a Blue Dog or at least someone who has beliefs similar to Jones and Manchin.
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Right but that can’t happen because the Twitter Mob will destroy anyone that moderate. Someone like a Bill Clinton 90s candidate would have best chance in general election. Bill Clinton said “abortions should be safe and rare” and also supported a wall and deporting illegals (Trump immigration policy). Bill Clinton was also against big govt and supported welfare reform. He was basically Trump today except was moderately pro choice. Bill Clinton of 90s would give Trump run for his money in 2020 but nobody like him can win the Dem primary totday.
 
Aquinas11 said:
Bill Clinton of 90s would give Trump run for his money in 2020 but nobody like him can win the Dem primary totday.
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Sad, but true. What a mess we are in. I don’t know how we will recover. God help us.
 
Federal judicial nominations were considerably easier to get through in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The Bork nomination was pretty much when the gloves came off and it just got progressively uglier after that.
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
Nope. Won’t stay home. The democrats will need all the votes they can get to beat Trump, so I encourage everyone who doesn’t want Trump in for a second term to vote Democrat!
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I encourage everyone, to vote, if they don’t want to vote for Trump, at least, make an attempt to vote within Catholic principles.

If you want to vote for dismemberment abortions, tearing human beings alive apart or saline abortions, which burn the baby alive, that’s your decision. But I sure won’t. This is a Catholic forum and I will seek to vote in a Catholic manner.

Same thing about the Middle East, we must try not to make bad decisions, terrorism against Christians rose dramatically under Obama though, it was there in a form under Bush.
 
RealisticCatholic said:
A 3rd party candidate will not win. America has been entrenched in its two-party system. It will come down to a Republican and a Democrat, and Trump will certainly be the Republican.
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No, a third party candidate will not (likely) win, but voting for a third-party candidate will allow you to actually vote your conscience.

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What ended up happening was Dems got so bogged down with Trump Russian Collusion Delusion that they didn’t discuss any policy or ideas so had a POLICY VACUUM and since we know nature abhors a vacuum we had some RADICAL ideology sweep into that vacuum (AOC, Green New Deal, Omar, etc). If they just accepted election result and started to come up with ideas on helath insurance, taxes, immigration, etc etc, then voters would have been much more receptive to them and radicals like AOC wouldn’t have a foothold.
 
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Victoria33 said:
And we have Democrats to thank for blocking pro-life nominees as well, Bourke in '81 and so on.

So, nominees? How easy was it to get Kavanaugh nominated? Does one think they just slid in real easy in the 1960s? Were the congresses Democrat or Republican majority?
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Robert Bork was a Reagan nominee in 1987.

Also, many Democrats between 1955-1980 were more conservative than many Republicans. The parties were not nearly as ideological back then. Southern Conservatives until the mid sixties were almost always Democrats, and Republicans from the NE were often liberals—Jacob Javits, Nelson Rockefeller etc
 
I’ll be voting. My forebears didn’t put up with a boatload of anti-Catholic and anti-Irish oppression and the women of this country didn’t get themselves thrown in prison so I could end up with a vote that I don’t use. My grands who always campaigned and worked the polls every election and my mom who worked the polls for many elections herself would be very disappointed in me if I didn’t vote. I vote every election (with the exception of one local, non-Presidential election I may have missed around the time my mom died because I was too upset to think) . Even if I have to write in Donald Duck.

My husband wanted to skip voting for President the last election, which was extremely unlike him. He was VERY conscientious about his civic duty. I told him he needed to vote even if it was third party, or write-in. He finally did think about it and vote for someone.
 
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You go right ahead and do that. I am going to vote for a candidate that actually has a chance to beat Trump.
 
I have no idea as of yet. I am waiting for all the Democrats to put their bid in.
 
OK this sounds so odd to me… Jesus said “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” … The Government can levy taxes to give programs and/or services to it’s people. The Government can do little, or alot, depending on who is in power. I do not for one second believe that Jesus is trying to determine the taxation rate that a government should or should not do.
 
I have been thinking about 2020.
Anything could change between now and then.
My thoughts are that regardless of what a political candidate says, they would be President. Whether they are pro-life or not, they cannot draft legislation. They can only veto legislation.
As for Trump, I did not like the guy before he was elected. I do not like him now. He has a nasty disposition. His words and actions when it comes to dealing with others rubs me the wrong way.
I just cannot bring myself to vote for him. I don’t care what his stand is on abortion. The thing is, I do not trust him. At one time, he was very much pro-choice. I think he would say anything and do anything to stay in the White House.
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
I am going to vote for a candidate that actually has a chance to beat Trump.
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Unfortunately, I don’t think any of the current candidates have a snowball’s chance.

If things continue this way, Trump will have a second term. Believe me, it gives me NO pleasure to say so. 😦
 
mrsdizzyd said:
Unfortunately, I don’t think any of the current candidates have a snowball’s chance.

If things continue this way, Trump will have a second term.
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Exactly. So far, the Democrat’s response to extreme has been… more extreme.
 
Perhaps, but so have many Democrats. Obama and Hillary used to change their accent depending on who their audience was. It was hysterical to watch!
 
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