Will the Catholic Church recognize the Antichrist?

[mikekle]

Ive wondered about this before, but I got drawn into a conversation with someone earlier today about this, not even sure how it came up, the other person is not a catholic and does not attend any church.

Her belief is that the CC and probably every other denomination will not recognize the AC for who he truly is when he comes unto the world scene, as its said ‘he’ will appear to be a person of peace, who accomplishes great things, that look to be Godly and for the general good of everyone.

Personally, I think the CC will be the very first church to call it out, granted, I think the rest of the world will be calling the CC crazy at doing this, they will say “look at all this man has done, how can you call him the AC”? IDK, maybe this is the time Jesus warned about, when lots of people started hating the church. If the Vatican made an announcement like that, especially if the secular world was LOVING this person, it would be very bad for the CCs image.

Im not sure of the specifics, but Id say the Vatican is prepared for this event in one way or another, Im sure they have certain people keeping an eye on world events, watching for any one person that would fit the extremely detailed description of the AC.

 

[Path_Finder]

Fascinating concept, I like this. I will follow this thread, I don’t have much to contribute at this point.

 

[Purgatory_Pete]

Great Question.
No, I don’t believe it will, some individuals will, both inside and outside the Catholic Church.
But from what I understand the AC will be so clever at what and how he does things that he will fool even the elect.
This is why we were warned that many souls would be lost or lead astray at that time.

Look at the list of candidates that gets thrown up every year, and it just keeps growing.
How could anyone be sure?
The bigger question might be.
Would the Pope stand up in public and actually label (whoever) as the AC?


:tiphat:

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Great Question.
No, I don’t believe it will, some individuals will, both inside and outside the Catholic Church.
But from what I understand the AC will be so clever at what and how he does things that he will fool even the elect.
This is why we were warned that many souls would be lost or lead astray at that time.

Look at the list of candidates that gets thrown up every year, and it just keeps growing.
How could anyone be sure?
The bigger question might be.
Would the Pope stand up in public and actually label (whoever) as the AC?


:tiphat:

I agree with you. I do believe that in the end, we will be only the “small remnant.” I, too, believe many, many souls will be led astray, both inside the Church and out.

 

[TK421]

I didn’t think the CC dogmatically believed in “the antichrist”. I thought that was a modernist evangelical notion.

The antichrist is somebody that teaches contrary to or is a substitution for Christ.

 

[Casilda]

Great Question.
No, I don’t believe it will, some individuals will, both inside and outside the Catholic Church.
But from what I understand the AC will be so clever at what and how he does things that he will fool even the elect.
This is why we were warned that many souls would be lost or lead astray at that time.

Look at the list of candidates that gets thrown up every year, and it just keeps growing.
How could anyone be sure?
The bigger question might be.
Would the Pope stand up in public and actually label (whoever) as the AC?


:tiphat:

I agree. There are but a few, spiritual contemplatives that are close to God and know God and will test the AC and know it to be false. May we need their warnings, Lord have mercy.

 

[Tarpeian_Rock]

I would think that the power and “effectiveness” of the anti-Christ will come about from not being SEEN as the anti-Christ.

 

[SMH_2015]

The bigger question might be.
Would the Pope stand up in public and actually label (whoever) as the AC?

My gut feel is “no” altho the Pope & his inner circle will be given this information by the Holy Spirit. An actual “announcement” would be problematic…but obviously this is all speculation.

 

[Regina7]

My gut feel is “no” altho the Pope & his inner circle will be given this information by the Holy Spirit. An actual “announcement” would be problematic…but obviously this is all speculation.

Could the AC actually be a pope? Is this possible?

I know that God said he would never desert his church, but what if there were two popes. I’m only using this as a hypothetical, but we technically have two popes living right now. Could one be the AC? Again, I’m not suggesting that one is- just pondering who the AC could be. I mean, what better place to hide the AC?

 

[7_Sorrows]

Could the AC actually be a pope? Is this possible?

I know that God said he would never desert his church, but what if there were two popes. I’m only using this as a hypothetical, but we technically have two popes living right now. Could one be the AC? Again, I’m not suggesting that one is- just pondering who the AC could be. I mean, what better place to hide the AC?

I don’t feel Pope Francis or Pope Benedict XVI (emeritus) could be the AC although there probably are many anti-catholics who might believe this.

 

[pianistclare]

My gut feel is “no” altho the Pope & his inner circle will be given this information by the Holy Spirit. An actual “announcement” would be problematic…but obviously this is all speculation.

I think this is a good outlook.
The whole point of an “antichrist” is that people will be deceived.
The more important question is :
** Will all of us remain faithful enough to NOT be deceived…?**

 

[Regina7]

I don’t feel Pope Francis or Pope Benedict XVI (emeritus) could be the AC although there probably are many anti-catholics who might believe this.

I don’t think so either, but honestly, where better to hide the AC than in the Church?

 

[PolarGuy]

Now THIS is a fascinating question, the kind we need to see more of!

I voted no. I think many many will be fooled. I also am reminded of the words of Fr. Gabriel amorth, a noted exorcist and I think the former head of the vatican’s pontifical institute - who said if memory serves that the devil had infiltrated the very highest levels of the church (a really scary thought!)

So I voted no.

 

[cjforJesus]

Ive wondered about this before, but I got drawn into a conversation with someone earlier today about this, not even sure how it came up, the other person is not a catholic and does not attend any church.

Her belief is that the CC and probably every other denomination will not recognize the AC for who he truly is when he comes unto the world scene, as its said ‘he’ will appear to be a person of peace, who accomplishes great things, that look to be Godly and for the general good of everyone.

Personally, I think the CC will be the very first church to call it out, granted, I think the rest of the world will be calling the CC crazy at doing this, they will say “look at all this man has done, how can you call him the AC”? IDK, maybe this is the time Jesus warned about, when lots of people started hating the church. If the Vatican made an announcement like that, especially if the secular world was LOVING this person, it would be very bad for the CCs image.

Im not sure of the specifics, but Id say the Vatican is prepared for this event in one way or another, Im sure they have certain people keeping an eye on world events, watching for any one person that would fit the extremely detailed description of the AC.

When the world teacher(antichrist) arrives on the scene most will welcome him with open arms. I am not certain though if antichrist is actually just one man or an ideology.

I read it somewhere that the men of the cloth(priests) will see beyond the facade and recognize antichrist as the deceiver.

 

[bitterhope]

Now THIS is a fascinating question, the kind we need to see more of!

I voted no. I think many many will be fooled. I also am reminded of the words of Fr. Gabriel amorth, a noted exorcist and I think the former head of the vatican’s pontifical institute - who said if memory serves that the devil had infiltrated the very highest levels of the church (a really scary thought!)

So I voted no.

I have heard this as well. One of the reasons I’ve started saying the St. Michael prayer on a regular basis with my family. Especially in the church after Mass. I voted no as well

 

[PolarGuy]

I’ve considered the possibility that it might be a pope but I doubt it - God would not desert His church. I’ve also read that he will be 1 man, literally an anti-Christ: the same way Christ never did a sinful act, AC will never do a good act. He will be bad, really bad.

 

[mikekle]

Could the AC actually be a pope? Is this possible?

I know that God said he would never desert his church, but what if there were two popes. I’m only using this as a hypothetical, but we technically have two popes living right now. Could one be the AC? Again, I’m not suggesting that one is- just pondering who the AC could be. I mean, what better place to hide the AC?

I DO NOT think francis is the AC, he just doesnt fit the description, however I do think there are some verses that allude to the AC will somehow come into the church, and use his position of power to deceive.

Plus, wasnt there a whole lot of visions and prophecies where they saw the AC would hold a high rank at the Vatican?

 

[mikekle]

I’ve considered the possibility that it might be a pope but I doubt it - God would not desert His church. I’ve also read that he will be 1 man, literally an anti-Christ: the same way Christ never did a sinful act, AC will never do a good act. He will be bad, really bad.

Just because a certain person in the Vatican may be the AC does not mean God has deserted his church, the bible even tells us the church will be put thru a test in the end times, God will be paying close attention Im sure. and NO, the AC will do LOTS of good things at first, if he comes out doing only evil, how would anyone be deceived by him?

When I think about it, really spotting the real AC should not be hard at all, after all, the bible gives us quite a bit of detail about who this person will be, and some of the things that will happen to them thru out their life, and the big one, if we see a single person that appears to be doing ALOT of good in the world, and is successful where many others have failed, that should be a ding ding moment for catholics…right?

Also, the AC is going to have and use supernatural powers, right in front of large crowds (so people will truly believe he is the messiah returned), I watch the news almost every night, and can tell you Ive never heard any news reports of people using supernatural powers, I would think if there is video of this person calling down fire from heaven, healing people on the spot, doing other things that NO other person is able to, well, that should also set off warning bells for ALL christians.

Even if the media refused to air these things, there would still be millions of Youtube videos all over the internet, so this should not be a problem spotting this person, as they will want to attract as much attention to themselves as possible.

 

[ringil]

Ive wondered about this before, but I got drawn into a conversation with someone earlier today about this, not even sure how it came up, the other person is not a catholic and does not attend any church.

Her belief is that the CC and probably every other denomination will not recognize the AC for who he truly is when he comes unto the world scene, as its said ‘he’ will appear to be a person of peace, who accomplishes great things, that look to be Godly and for the general good of everyone.

Personally, I think the CC will be the very first church to call it out, granted, I think the rest of the world will be calling the CC crazy at doing this, they will say “look at all this man has done, how can you call him the AC”? IDK, maybe this is the time Jesus warned about, when lots of people started hating the church. If the Vatican made an announcement like that, especially if the secular world was LOVING this person, it would be very bad for the CCs image.

Im not sure of the specifics, but Id say the Vatican is prepared for this event in one way or another, Im sure they have certain people keeping an eye on world events, watching for any one person that would fit the extremely detailed description of the AC.

The Church has not stated that the anti-Christ is necessarily a person.

Many theologians believe that the anti-Christ represents a heresy which will overtake the world.

 

[Mystrx]

The Church has not stated that the anti-Christ is necessarily a person.

Many theologians believe that the anti-Christ represents a heresy which will overtake the world.

Now that’s an interesting way of thinking about this subject. Not an actual person but a heresy which will overtake the world.

That would certainly qualify as leading many astray from the true faith without revealing what was actually happening. Certainly would make it far more difficult for anyone to see it coming down.