Wisconsin man accused of performing crude abortion on girl

[Cathoholic]

From ABC News (and the Associated Press) . . . .

Yet another LOW from the abortion culture.

Wisconsin man accused of performing crude abortion on girl

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS CRANDON, Wis. — Apr 21, 2017, 5:51 PM ET

A Wisconsin man is accused of impregnating an underage girl and performing a crude abortion in her.

The criminal complaint alleges 33-year-old Matthew J. Christianson, of Crandon, sexually assaulted five different children in Forest County of northeastern Wisconsin since 2010, and brutally beat a sixth. The victims were ages 12 through 17. . . . .

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/wisconsin-man-accused-performing-crude-abortion-girl-46946297

 

[BoomBoomMancini]

I’m as pro-life as anyone, but pinning this one on people who support legal abortion is wildly disingenuous. Literally no one is arguing in favor of this.

 

[Cathoholic]

Fair enough BoomBoomMancini.

Yet another LOW from the culture of death.

 

[BoomBoomMancini]

I mean, I guess. But I don’t think that the culture of death, even at it’s most decadent, is in favor of child rape and forced abortion.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m on your side as far as the criticism of modern culture in general. But attributing this lunatic’s crime to the culture seems like a strawman.

 

[Cathoholic]

But attributing this lunatic’s crime to the culture seems like a strawman.

Maybe.

. . . Live Action’s undercover investigations have revealed the abortion industry’s willingness to help sex traffickers and sex abusers rather than victims.

lifesitenews.com/news/wisconsin-man-accused-of-committing-crude-abortion-on-sixth-grader-he-raped

liveaction.org/what-we-do/investigations/child-sex-trafficking-cover-up/

liveaction.org/what-we-do/investigations/sexual-abuse-cover-up/

 

[Cathoholic]

POPE JOHN PAUL II 21. In seeking the deepest roots of** the struggle between the “culture of life” and the “culture of death”,** we cannot restrict ourselves to the perverse idea of freedom mentioned above. We have to go to the heart of the tragedy being experienced by modern man: the eclipse of the sense of God and of man, typical of a social and cultural climate dominated by secularism, which, with its ubiquitous tentacles, succeeds at times in putting Christian communities themselves to the test. Those who allow themselves to be influenced by this climate easily fall into a sad vicious circle: when the sense of God is lost, there is also a tendency to lose the sense of man, of his dignity and his life; in turn, the systematic violation of the moral law, **especially in the serious matter of respect for human life and its dignity, produces a kind of progressive darkening of the capacity to discern God’s living and saving presence **. . . Evangelium Vitae

w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_evangelium-vitae.html

My point isn’t that they necessarily “favor” this. But I think sooner or later progressive decadance is a “result” of this mentality and spiritual disease.

 

[Crusaderbear]

I’m as pro-life as anyone, but pinning this one on people who support legal abortion is wildly disingenuous. Literally no one is arguing in favor of this.

Concur, this creature is a MONSTER. Hopefully, if found guilty, he will never see a day of freedom again.

 

[SimpleYA]

Concur, this creature is a MONSTER. Hopefully, if found guilty, he will never see a day of freedom again.

He may be in the complete wrong here but hopefully he will repent and then accept fully Jesus Christ in his life.

 

[Crusaderbear]

He may be in the complete wrong here but hopefully he will repent and then accept fully Jesus Christ in his life.

Respectfully, Repent doesn’t mean parole.

 

[PJH_74]

This is the one thing that concerns me long term about closing down clinics. Crude abortions performed by unqualified people in poor hygiene.

 

[ProVobis]

I’m as pro-life as anyone, but pinning this one on people who support legal abortion is wildly disingenuous. Literally no one is arguing in favor of this.

Actually current law makes it unlawful to kill a fetus of another.

 

[katy]

This is the one thing that concerns me long term about closing down clinics. Crude abortions performed by unqualified people in poor hygiene.

Have you seen some of the reports from abortion centers? The legal ones can be as crude, done by just as unqualified people who are revoltingly unhygienic. Abortion doesn’t attract the high minded and highly qualified.

 

[ClearWater]

Praying.

 

[lmachine]

Have you seen some of the reports from abortion centers? The legal ones can be as crude, done by just as unqualified people who are revoltingly unhygienic.

Have you ever talked to or read reports by an OB/GYN who was practicing in the '40s, '50s, or '60s? The exploitation by a small minority of abortion providers today pales compared to the suffering of women who died from sepsis or exsanguination after illegal abortions before Roe v. Wade. All subpar abortion providers should be shut down, have licenses stripped, and be prosecuted if appropriate, but it’s a little silly to say legal abortion should be outlawed when it’s a safer procedure than a colonoscopy.

 

[Cathoholic]

Imachine:

it’s a little silly to say legal abortion should be outlawed when it’s a safer procedure than a colonoscopy.

What do you think an “abortion” is imachine?

 

[TK421]

I mean, I guess. But I don’t think that the culture of death, even at it’s most decadent, is in favor of child rape and forced abortion.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m on your side as far as the criticism of modern culture in general. But attributing this lunatic’s crime to the culture seems like a strawman.

Generally speaking, yes.

However, indenturing girls into sexual servitude was (and still is) a used practice, and avoiding pregnancy (through any convenient means) is often attached to it. This has gone underground, and has also increased in frequency in recent years.

I’m not sure how much there is to discuss here.

 

[lmachine]

What do you think an “abortion” is imachine?

It’s a procedure where a woman who is pregnant and doesn’t want to carry the fetus to term has the fetus removed.

 

[vz71]

It’s a procedure where a woman who is pregnant and doesn’t want to carry the fetus to term has the fetus removed.

This results in death of the fetus.
Seems to me it is unsafe no matter since roughly half of the people the procedure is done on are killed.

 

[mikekle]

I mean, I guess. But I don’t think that the culture of death, even at it’s most decadent, is in favor of child rape and forced abortion.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m on your side as far as the criticism of modern culture in general. But attributing this lunatic’s crime to the culture seems like a strawman.

IDK about that, I can look around and see how we are being desensitized to sex acts with children, its on the news and depicted in entertainment so often, it honestly does not shock people anymore, if you look back at other things that were once like this, interracial relationships, etc. that is usually the first step in acceptance.

Besides sexual sin is progressive in its nature, it WILL always get worse and worse, its not like people plateau and will not sin beyond a certain point, they are similar to the drug addict, always wanting something stronger, more extreme,etc. Plus, its not something people can control either.

 

[randomuser]

This results in death of the fetus.
Seems to me it is unsafe no matter since roughly half of the people the procedure is done on are killed.

What about infant mortality? Much like miscarriages, there doesn’t seem to be much talk in “pro-life” circles about infant mortality rates (the U.S. rates are appalling) or miscarriages. There’s more to being anti-abortion than simply being anti-abortion. Stories like this won’t magically change that.