With Border Crossings at a Trickle, Why Build a Mexico Wall?

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Be a lot more cost effective to actually enforce sanctions the current law provides for against employers who don’t verify their employees’ right to work status. Bust a few of the largest employers plus a few smaller ones. The rest will fall in line. Then the illegals will self deport themselves in greater numbers if they find work environments not hiring them anymore. The busts we’ve had in the past have been few and far between, mostly just for show. Let’s put some teeth in them.
 
Ender said:
and the fact that unemployment is at an all time low hides the fact that that number doesn’t include those who are unemployed and aren’t looking for work
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Will the right acknowledge that tidbit…I doubt Trump would?
 
And the have the other end:

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That would be a good start. But not all illegals who cross are doing so to work, or at least not in honest professions. Also, why would illegals be that worried when the US has time and time again given amnesty to Mexicans who come here illegally. Even if one gets arrested and decides to leave he can just come back across that open border. Also, nothing happens to most illegals who are identified other than being asked to leave. We need to lock them up for a long time. That may really discourage them.
 
I would think those without work or can’t get a raise would be the first to support deportation of all immigrants legal and illegal.
 
These jobs that “Americans won’t do” used to be done by Americans. The problem is that the Americans who used to do them were very poor, and now they are on welfare, which restricts them from doing this sort of seasonal work or doing it would lose them the benefits they need for the rest of the year.

If we were to change the welfare rules to allow them to increase their income by doing seasonal labor or to allow people to get work while still being able to resume welfare easily it doesn’t work out, we would not need to use immigrant labor, legal or illegal.
 
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If we were to change the welfare rules to allow them to increase their income by doing seasonal labor or to allow people to get work while still being able to resume welfare easily it doesn’t work out, we would not need to use immigrant labor, legal or illegal.
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That’s only partially true. I think it applies to most work done by illegals in urban and suburban areas but not to picking produce on farms, often distant from population centers. I think we need to expand our seasonal ag visa program so migrant pickers can come and leave for the season, but be legal about it.
 
I’m ok with that, but actually, there a lots of people on welfare in rural areas and close to rural areas, like in Burlington NC.
 
Well, a seasonal visa by definition is legal. I don’t know if you need a sponsor, though.
 
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Well, a seasonal visa by definition is legal.
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What point were you making?
I was contrasting their doing ag work legally vs illegally. Both their pay and work conditions will be better if they have a temp work visa.
 
When you have neighbors who give you a hard time about whom you employ, all the visas in the world aren’t going to bring them back the following season. They know when they’re not wanted.

I’m out of here.
 
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When you have neighbors who give you a hard time about whom you employ, all the visas in the world aren’t going to bring them back the following season. They know when they’re not wanted.

I’m out of here.
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Sorry, that is not how it works on the farm. Your neighbor is also a farmer and they are picking both your fields. You also provide them with temp housing or camping with facilities.
 
I think it Is typical for new administrations to take credit for trends which had begun in previous administrations. I recall a downturn in the unemployment rate when Clinton took office was credited to his administration, but it had begun during the last months of the prior Bush administration. I’m not sure when a new administration should begin taking credit for change due to their own policies. Perhaps only after they have left office.
 
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