Women and head coverings

[Mamamull]

White and black are the most common. Beige or ecru is also becoming more common.

I had thought that white was for single women and black for married women – as in being dead to the world like the habits and clerical clothing.

That said. there are websites that sell veils in all kinds of colors. Perhaps in the Latin American community color is more common and they choose a veil to match their clothes.

I usually wear white since my husband prefers it. I also usually wear a white dressy blouse and black slacks – I know skirts are better, but I just haven’t gotten to the point where I want to deal with skirts and hosiery and footwear. I would have to buy new dress shoes and with the foot problems that acting up, shoes are just too expensive right now.

Lace is common for veils, although the black one I made is with a sheer black fabric trimmed with lace. One can have a veil of silk, charmeuse, organza, lace (of which there are hundreds of varieties) something lightweight and semi-opaque or translucent is good.

One nice thing about a veil – I don’t have to worry about my hair as much. I usually put my hair in a pony tail and have sewn a matching or discreet comb in the veil to help hold it.

My sons – ages 7 and 8.5 years old seem to be more cuddly when I wear my veil. They know it is odd, but well, I am not the average suburban housewife.

 

[TNT]

But it must be noted that these ordinances, probably inspired by the customs of the period, concern scarcely more than disciplinary practices of minor importance, such as the obligation imposed upon women to wear a veil on the head (1 Cor 11:2-6); such requirements no longer have a normative value.

Like that?
A scholarly “**probably” MUST be noted!
**Say what?
Another “practices of **minor importance” [by] of all the minor Apostles: St Paul!****(1 Cor 11:2-6)
**Finally, that snake word “**normative” **that will get you out of any box of boloney.
BTW:
It’s a 14 verse discourse ending v16, not 6!

What a guy!
Let’s follow him!

 

[bear06]

Thanks, Karin. I’ve seen this before. While Lumengent tries, he’s not the competent authority. I believe this would fall to the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

I must throw in this disclaimer. I have no problem with veiling. I only have a problem with saying that it is mandatory.

 

[Karin]

Thanks, Karin. I’ve seen this before. While Lumengent tries, he’s not the competent authority. I believe this would fall to the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

I must throw in this disclaimer. I have no problem with veiling. I only have a problem with saying that it is mandatory.

There are many Trad websites (the one that pops to the top of my head Fisheaters) and they also state the same thing in that the link I gave you does…I bow to the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith on this …

 

[Indyann]

Can you please show me where it states that head coverings for woman are no longer mandated preferable something from the Vatican not a newspaper article

Already addressed in post #19. I consider EWTN a fairly reputible site. The canon laws are discussed and their abrogation.

 

[Karin]

Already addressed in post #19. I consider EWTN a fairly reputible site. The canon laws are discussed and their abrogation.

IT was also answered in post#99…you know it was nice not to have to go back 77 posts from the one you made your statment in to search for it (especially since the search function is on snooze on the forums)…
but thank you anyway…I as other “Trads” I guess hold a different view and I will be one of those “Trads” that will cover her head at Mass

 

[Indyann]

IT was also answered in post#99…you know it was nice not to have to go back 77 posts from the one you made your statment in to search for it (especially since the search function is on snooze on the forums)…
but thank you anyway…I as other “Trads” I guess hold a different view and I will be one of those “Trads” that will cover her head at Mass

So sorry. It only took me a couple of seconds, using the scroll bar.

 

[Karin]

So sorry. It only took me a couple of seconds, using the scroll bar.

well weren’t you the ambitous one…and thank you Bear06 for supplying the info, once again

 

[KathleenElsie]

In the past many years I have only once not covered at Mass. I had to work late and could not get home to change. I was scheduled to work the next morning and thus made a choice Mass or veil. I asked Mary to cover me with her veil and went to Mass. Now understand no one knew I was uncovered because no one in the Mass except my family covers LOL. I felt un-dressed. It won’t happen again. Our Bishop refuses any and all indults. But we have Polka Masses

Oh I also cover in the car when I am saying prayers. So if you see a lady driving a BIG Van with her head covered seemingly mumbling it could be me

 

[slyboots]

Interesting. Many Jewish married women practice tznius (modesty/wholesomeness) by covering their hair completely. The hair covering is a constant reminder to the woman herself, as well as to the men who encounter her, that she has a special status; she has been sanctified to one man only and is off-limits to all others. Also women and girls, married or unmarried, must cover all parts of their main body (torso) plus parts of their arms and legs when in public or in the presence of individuals outside their immediate family.
Mennonite women cover their heads and dress quietly, modestly and plainly.
Much of Islam calls for the covering of a woman’s hair and in many cases much more of the body.
Some Catholic women cover their heads at prayer and mass.
Non religious women primarily wear whatever is the secular fashion… blue jeans, skimpy shirts, form fitting clothing, and generally only wear hats to shade their eyes from the sun.
I am not sure but what just covering my head when at prayer is not sufficient.
And maybe…I am just thinking out loud here…possibly it is time to pull modesty and decency out of the boxes where we stored them most carefully with mothballs, let them air out and then once again garb ourselves in quiet dignity.

 

[KathleenElsie]

Interesting. Many Jewish married women practice tznius (modesty/wholesomeness) by covering their hair completely. The hair covering is a constant reminder to the woman herself, as well as to the men who encounter her, that she has a special status; she has been sanctified to one man only and is off-limits to all others. Also women and girls, married or unmarried, must cover all parts of their main body (torso) plus parts of their arms and legs when in public or in the presence of individuals outside their immediate family.
Mennonite women cover their heads and dress quietly, modestly and plainly.
Much of Islam calls for the covering of a woman’s hair and in many cases much more of the body.
Some Catholic women cover their heads at prayer and mass.
Non religious women primarily wear whatever is the secular fashion… blue jeans, skimpy shirts, form fitting clothing, and generally only wear hats to shade their eyes from the sun.
I am not sure but what just covering my head when at prayer is not sufficient.
And maybe…I am just thinking out loud here…possibly it is time to pull modesty and decency out of the boxes where we stored them most carefully with mothballs, let them air out and then once again garb ourselves in quiet dignity.

 

[valient_Lucy]

If people would like to attend Masses where women still cover their heads, you should come to South Korea, where I am living right now. About 90% of women cover their heads at the Mass with mantillas. I bought one too, and started wearing it. (When in Rome…)

 

[AngelRose81]

I have been wanting to buy one to wear as well. Our parish only offers the Novus Ordo right now but I would like to go to some that offer the Latin Mass.

BTW, I noticed someone wearing one Sunday at our NO Mass. That was the first time I’d ever seen it while attending my parish. I thought it was wonderful to see that!

 

[Catholig]

I have been wanting to buy one to wear as well. Our parish only offers the Novus Ordo right now but I would like to go to some that offer the Latin Mass.

BTW, I noticed someone wearing one Sunday at our NO Mass. That was the first time I’d ever seen it while attending my parish. I thought it was wonderful to see that!

I really don’t understand why more women don’t wear head coverings during Mass. It says to do so in the bible, and it is traditional. Besides that it is a sign of humility, and, IMHO, they look really nice. In fact - I feel that if I were a woman I would wear one.

Catholig

 

[CherryBomb]

I really don’t understand why more women don’t wear head coverings during Mass. It says to do so in the bible, and it is traditional. Besides that it is a sign of humility, and, IMHO, they look really nice. In fact - I feel that if I were a woman I would wear one.

Catholig

I would love to, but no one at our parish covers. I would feel like I was trying to draw attention to myself, you know? Maybe I’ll ask my priest about it. I asked in RCIA and they didn’t really know what I was talking about

 

[Catholig]

I would love to, but no one at our parish covers. I would feel like I was trying to draw attention to myself, you know? Maybe I’ll ask my priest about it. I asked in RCIA and they didn’t really know what I was talking about

CherryBomb,

In a way I know what you are talking about - I commented about it on my blog just recently - however I’ll paraphrase here. During the week I attend a local church, not my parish church, and there many people receive on the tongue (I believe). But the matter is I want to receive while kneeling as well - others do, but not many. You just have to be careful to make sure it is not a matter of pride I guess. And really while I might even not be able to take the advice I’ll give what others think about you or your motives don’t matter.

Catholig

 

[Mercy_and_Grace]

I can’t help but wonder - why hasn’t there been any effort by the Vatican to clear this up? Also, when you see pictures of the faithful meeting with our Holy Father, the women are almost always veiled. Why for the Holy Father and not for God, our Father?

 

[Andreas_Hofer]

I can’t help but wonder - why hasn’t there been any effort by the Vatican to clear this up? Also, when you see pictures of the faithful meeting with our Holy Father, the women are almost always veiled. Why for the Holy Father and not for God, our Father?

That’s actually a very good point - even non-Catholic women being received by the Holy Father (think heads of state or wives of such) adhere to the tradition of dressing in black and covering their heads. I happen to agree with the arguments showing how head coverings are no longer mandatory, but you’re right that something’s odd when a tradition is worth keeping for the vicar but not for his Boss.

BTW - since the argument about coverings is based largely on canon law, I would think the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts would be the proper dicastery for clarification of the matter. Also, while I recognize that some ultimately claim head coverings are part of the deposit of faith, I would probably question the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments before tossing the issue to the CDF.

 

[TNT]

Originally Posted by Mercy and Grace forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cad/viewpost.gif
* I can’t help but wonder - why hasn’t there been any effort by the Vatican to clear this up? Also, when you see pictures of the faithful meeting with our Holy Father, the women are almost always veiled. Why for the Holy Father and not for God, our Father?

Read the Sig.
***And that means ALL of them.

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[CherryBomb]

CherryBomb,

And really while I might even not be able to take the advice I’ll give what others think about you or your motives don’t matter.

Catholig

Very true! I guess it’s mostly nervousness from being new to the parish (and a new Catholic in general!)