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lizaanne
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Yikes!!! My point exactly!!! 
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tamccrackine
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wowā¦what an interesting thread! And thanks for those links above for the head coveringsā¦ one of them provided me a gorgeous veil for my DD that is about to make her First Holy Communion next month! Thank you!
Believe it or not, Iām actually thinking of going back to this tradition. Iāve never worn a head covering to Mass and my mother, the uber feminist she is, would balk at me going back to a tradition she thought was worthless. But I find that itās something that I can give to Christ and in my mind, gives me something to show that Iām a woman. I know alot of my other Catholic friends that are leaning towards this also and we were all raised with the feminist type mothers.
I also find head coverings just prettyā¦
Believe it or not, Iām actually thinking of going back to this tradition. Iāve never worn a head covering to Mass and my mother, the uber feminist she is, would balk at me going back to a tradition she thought was worthless. But I find that itās something that I can give to Christ and in my mind, gives me something to show that Iām a woman. I know alot of my other Catholic friends that are leaning towards this also and we were all raised with the feminist type mothers.
I also find head coverings just prettyā¦
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Mommyof02green
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Thatās not exactly what I meantā¦
My Abaās hats were simple solid colors and generaly matched the color of her dresses. (She only had a handful of dresses that she wore to Mass)
The ladies Iām thinking of at church ALWAYS where the same hat, their hats match their dress-coatā¦
Which is why I wondered about hats, seeing none of the ladies in my parish wear the lace-things.
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Lisa_Lavadores
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Iām very glad this thread is here. Iāve been mulling over the veil for years. I think Iām going to start wearing one.
Interesting info and links ā so, as far as color goes, I could get them in in green, purple, red, and white? I like to dress in the liturgical color of the Mass.
Side note on the allowing-something-vs.-teaching-something point made way above: I cannot find anyone who can direct me to a statement by our bishop that he has lifted the directive to kneel after the Lamb of God, but I know that there is no kneeling at that point in our cathedral (however, thereās also lots of other stuff happening in the cathedral that is not according to the GIRM). But since the bishop has the right to say āno kneeling,ā is his allowing of no kneeling an implicit directive? Or does he need to make a statement before we are to stop kneeling? Right now, I still kneel (just about the only one), but I donāt want to be doing it when I shouldnāt be. (I think Iām going to start a new thread on this, but since the point came up here, I thought Iād look for feedback).
Interesting info and links ā so, as far as color goes, I could get them in in green, purple, red, and white? I like to dress in the liturgical color of the Mass.
Side note on the allowing-something-vs.-teaching-something point made way above: I cannot find anyone who can direct me to a statement by our bishop that he has lifted the directive to kneel after the Lamb of God, but I know that there is no kneeling at that point in our cathedral (however, thereās also lots of other stuff happening in the cathedral that is not according to the GIRM). But since the bishop has the right to say āno kneeling,ā is his allowing of no kneeling an implicit directive? Or does he need to make a statement before we are to stop kneeling? Right now, I still kneel (just about the only one), but I donāt want to be doing it when I shouldnāt be. (I think Iām going to start a new thread on this, but since the point came up here, I thought Iād look for feedback).
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lak611
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Or looking like the Baptists. Most women in Baptist Churches wear hats for services.
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Catholig
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Catholig
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It would be nice to see more people follow this traditionwowā¦what an interesting thread! And thanks for those links above for the head coveringsā¦ one of them provided me a gorgeous veil for my DD that is about to make her First Holy Communion next month! Thank you!
Believe it or not, Iām actually thinking of going back to this tradition. Iāve never worn a head covering to Mass and my mother, the uber feminist she is, would balk at me going back to a tradition she thought was worthless. But I find that itās something that I can give to Christ and in my mind, gives me something to show that Iām a woman. I know alot of my other Catholic friends that are leaning towards this also and we were all raised with the feminist type mothers.
I also find head coverings just prettyā¦
On a side note I just want to comment to any possible āUeber Feministsā out there that this tradition doesnāt make woman āinferiorā or anything like that. In every image I own, or on statue I see of the Blessed Virgin Mary she has her head covered. And Mary the Mother of God isnāt repressed or inferior in ANY catholicās eyes.
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slyboots
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I wear my black mantilla/veil every week to mass. Itās no problem at all. I use two hair pins. One is just behind the lace at the edge of my hairline and the other at the crown of my head. My little grand daughter usually is in my lap with arms around my neck while at church. She learned very quickly not to try to adjust it for me. It has not fallen off one time yet.
The biggest problem I have is that my grown son feels I look conspicuous. But my husband has said he understands why I wear it and so confirms my decision to do so. And my decision came from conviction that Paulās words were Godās words to me. But I will not condemn any woman who does not wear the veil.
I wear a veil becauseā¦
1 cor 11
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ā¦any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled brings shame upon her head, for it is one and the same thing as if she had had her head shaved.
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For if a woman does not have her head veiled, she may as well have her hair cut off. But if it is shameful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should wear a veil.
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For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
nor was man created for woman, but woman for man for this reason a woman should have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels.
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Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled?
PS I have some nice scarves as well to wear. Very practical for me.
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kellie
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Wow those pictures of the veils look stunning.
And very feminine.
I wish they would come back in.
I would feel very humble receiving the Body of Christ wearing one.
Thanks everyone for those pics.
By the way, I love the pink Santa hat, but not for Mass
And very feminine.
I wish they would come back in.
I would feel very humble receiving the Body of Christ wearing one.
Thanks everyone for those pics.
By the way, I love the pink Santa hat, but not for Mass
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rpp
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I have said it before but Iāll risk repeating myself here.
I really like to see women wear the veil or mantilla. It is bvery feminine and very alluring in the most chaste way possible. It promotes chastity and modesty both very powerfully and subsconciously. Seeing women wear head coverings at Mass makes it much easier for this single man to lift his heart to God and worshipo at Mass.
Please ladies, keep in mind that you promote true devotion to our Lord by this simple act of humility. Thank you all of you who do this!
I really like to see women wear the veil or mantilla. It is bvery feminine and very alluring in the most chaste way possible. It promotes chastity and modesty both very powerfully and subsconciously. Seeing women wear head coverings at Mass makes it much easier for this single man to lift his heart to God and worshipo at Mass.
Please ladies, keep in mind that you promote true devotion to our Lord by this simple act of humility. Thank you all of you who do this!
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Morning_Star15
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Iāve heard that traditionally, unmarried women are supposed to wear white veils, and married women wear black ones. I guess this would still hold as far as colour, although I have seen ladies in Poland wearing coloured scarves in Church - does anyone know if there are rules for this.
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E.E.N.S
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Is it just me, or does this lady have a really long neck!?
http://headcoverings-by-devorah.com/NavyLaceSnood.jpg
(LOL, yes I know sheās not real.
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http://headcoverings-by-devorah.com/NavyLaceSnood.jpg
(LOL, yes I know sheās not real.
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proud2bcatholic
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I knew that women should wear veils to Mass, I didnāt realize giraffes were suppose to wear veils as well, interesting.Is it just me, or does this lady have a really long neck!?
http://headcoverings-by-devorah.com/NavyLaceSnood.jpg
(LOL, yes I know sheās not real.
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Mintaka
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More Catholic women wore hats, scarves, kerchiefs, shawls, and headdresses than ever wore mantillas. Mantillas only became widely popular among most American Catholic women after beehive hair came in and hats went out. (Unless you were Hispanic, an Italian grandmother, etc. My family was all Irish and German, and they hadnāt worn a mantilla or veil for at least a hundred years ā until beehive hair set in.)
No, if you wear a hat, it shouldnāt be purely for fashion. But being totally unfashionable draws just as much attention, ne? Being neatly and reasonably well dressed for church is the idea, and anything which furthers that is fine.
None of which goes to say, āDonāt wear a mantillaā. Theyāre pretty. But donāt wear one out of a false perception of tradition.
No, if you wear a hat, it shouldnāt be purely for fashion. But being totally unfashionable draws just as much attention, ne? Being neatly and reasonably well dressed for church is the idea, and anything which furthers that is fine.
None of which goes to say, āDonāt wear a mantillaā. Theyāre pretty. But donāt wear one out of a false perception of tradition.
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Leeta
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As far as decent attire goes, there is no excuse, Liza.
Here in SE Michigan we have lots of thrift stores with even three piece suits for less the cost of a new pair of blus jeans!
I know because I have to buy my sonsā clothes and it is the āplayā clothes which are more expensive than the church clothes because there is less demand for dress up clothes than for casual ones. Value World has lots of good clothes. Iāve picked up some nice designer dress coats for less than the cost of new blue jeans which I also have to buy.
Now as for veiling, I have read Colleen Hammonds book about dressing with dignity and she says it is because women are holy and holy things are veiled. The chalice and siborium are veiled, a bride is veiled, etc. My Muslim friend thinks womensā head coverings are modest. But if the rest of them is uncovered, I donāt know how a head covering will help.
Some women wear a doily or a handkerchief. Now it doesnāt literally cover the head. So apparently, the head covering was symbolic. Thus, a hair bow or some other large hair decoration would also be a head covering.
I know my in-laws would say how back in the 1950ās they would pull out a handkerchief or even a kleenex at the back of Church and pin it on, when they had forgotten their normal veil.
So I donāt quite get it about the necessity of a veil, when apparently a doily was symbolical enough, under the Old Canon Law.
Here in SE Michigan we have lots of thrift stores with even three piece suits for less the cost of a new pair of blus jeans!
I know because I have to buy my sonsā clothes and it is the āplayā clothes which are more expensive than the church clothes because there is less demand for dress up clothes than for casual ones. Value World has lots of good clothes. Iāve picked up some nice designer dress coats for less than the cost of new blue jeans which I also have to buy.
Now as for veiling, I have read Colleen Hammonds book about dressing with dignity and she says it is because women are holy and holy things are veiled. The chalice and siborium are veiled, a bride is veiled, etc. My Muslim friend thinks womensā head coverings are modest. But if the rest of them is uncovered, I donāt know how a head covering will help.
Some women wear a doily or a handkerchief. Now it doesnāt literally cover the head. So apparently, the head covering was symbolic. Thus, a hair bow or some other large hair decoration would also be a head covering.
I know my in-laws would say how back in the 1950ās they would pull out a handkerchief or even a kleenex at the back of Church and pin it on, when they had forgotten their normal veil.
So I donāt quite get it about the necessity of a veil, when apparently a doily was symbolical enough, under the Old Canon Law.
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lak611
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My mother said that there was a 1:00 a.m. Mass at St. Johnās Cathedral downtown back in the 1950ās. It was scheduled at that time for the newspaper workers. However, according to my mother, all the drunk people, men and women would show up for Mass after leaving the bars. The women looked especially silly with cocktail napkins from the bars on the heads so they could get into Church.
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NoPlaceLikeRome
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Very interestingāI didnāt know. Thanks, Mintaka.
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NoPlaceLikeRome
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Iāve heard that as well about the black and white. Itās not a hard and fast rule though, sort of like the Piratesā Code.
A friend who regularly attends Indult Mass said that many of her [teenage] friends do not follow this tradition but wear black ones that sort of blend with their hair. I wore a white one for the past few months but decided not to wear it for a funeral Mass, I would have felt too conspicuous and donāt have a black one.
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childofmary1143
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I remember one lady who used to get into a snit about wearing mantillas and I said in a very humorous but somewhat truthful way of how God sees it.
"You think its demeaning that God asks women to wear mantillas. Perhaps you think we are like some Muslims that like to oppress the women. We arenāt. In fact what God is really saying to women is, Hey I made you too beautiful! You are so beautiful that these menā¦ these pathetic men
would rather look at your hair than concentrate at Mass. I mean they are men they canāt help themselves, they are what they are. I mean look at Adam, look at Samson. So please do me a favor ladies wear the mantilla and lets save manhood! The fact that men donāt cover their hair is because women know how to pray and not get distracted by a manās hair!!!
She had a good laugh when I said that and as a single man I know how distracting attractive hair among other things can be for a man
"You think its demeaning that God asks women to wear mantillas. Perhaps you think we are like some Muslims that like to oppress the women. We arenāt. In fact what God is really saying to women is, Hey I made you too beautiful! You are so beautiful that these menā¦ these pathetic men
would rather look at your hair than concentrate at Mass. I mean they are men they canāt help themselves, they are what they are. I mean look at Adam, look at Samson. So please do me a favor ladies wear the mantilla and lets save manhood! The fact that men donāt cover their hair is because women know how to pray and not get distracted by a manās hair!!!She had a good laugh when I said that and as a single man I know how distracting attractive hair among other things can be for a man
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deb1
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At one of the synagogues my hubby attended, he was given a yarmulke because he didnāt have one. I wonder why Catholic Churches a long time ago didnāt provide spare head coverings for people?
I have to admit I love the idea of a head covering. Something about it is very feminine and almost makes being female seem sacred.
Iād love to wear them but I fear that people would think that I was holding myself above them.
I have to admit I love the idea of a head covering. Something about it is very feminine and almost makes being female seem sacred.
Iād love to wear them but I fear that people would think that I was holding myself above them.
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