WOMEN ONLY: Your "opinions" on Women Ordination

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Dear eulogos,
Have you ever read Theology of the Body by JPII? If you haven’t I’d suggest you should. It shows the important roles women have in Christ even though they can’t be priest, and much, much more.

I’m just curious though about these Angelican women priests. How can they have the Eucharist? Only the Catholic Church has the true Eucharist. Maybe I misunderstood on what you where saying?

As for standing for Him at the alter…You may want to do that. Have you thought what God wants you to do? He created you and blessed you with certain talents for a reason and to do His work in a unique way. It may seem that priesthood is the best place to say “I love you” to Jesus, but He has a different plan for you, me, and all women. Our role/s are just as blessed and as close to Him as men’s and the priesthood. Find what He wants you to do, don’t focus on what you’d like to do.

Another part you should think of is the possibility of women priests in the future. If the Church hasn’t change in over 2000 years…why would she change now? Why change the teachings and Traditions (notice big T) ever?

Thanks for you (name removed by moderator)ut and opinion. I’m also glad that you’re still thinking about this and contemplating in search of the Truth. Once you find it, you’ll understand how all this lies in God’s plan. I’m praying for you.

God Bless you. 👍
 
If these Feminazis that want to be priests can’t accept the Churches INFALLIBLE ruling on this matter they just need to shut up and leave. 👋
 
This is incredible. I CANNOT believe what I am hearing. How can those who call themselves “Catholic” even begin to think that such a thing (an abomination at that) of “women priests” can be possible!

True our Lord only ordained Men to be Apostles. He did this because of WHAT they were to DO at the ALTAR OF SACRIFICE.

At the Mass the priest is “Alter Christus” or “Another Christ”.

The “Christ” at Calvary is MAN, not WOMAN. Therefore in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass the priest CANNOT be a woman for Christ IS a MAN.

No woman can possibly be ordained to the priesthood, the same way no two homosexuals can be married. It just doesn’t work that way.

See more at ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2ORDIN.HTM
Ken
 
The Anglican women priest cannot confect any Eucharist and any “mass” they “offer” is invalid.
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crusader4life:
I’m just curious though about these Angelican women priests. How can they have the Eucharist? Only the Catholic Church has the true Eucharist. Maybe I misunderstood on what you where saying?
God Bless you. 👍
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I’m a fairly new Roman Carholic, but I think we need to take a look at the history of the Church and its roots. In the Old Testanemt the priesthood was for men. If Christ had wanted to change it he would have had women apostles and our New testament would have books written by women. Having said that I see that women are the ones who really keep the Church functioning. They do almost all of the grunt work and a lot of the managing. We don’t need to be ordained. We don’t have the time.
 
NEVER NEVER NEVER !!!

During the Last Supper, with Our Lord Jesus and the Apostles, He asked them to do this in memory of Me. Not even the Blessed Mother who is the Holiest of Holies and the Immaculate Conception was part of that. If Jesus had wanted a woman to be consecrating during Mass, the Blessed Virgin would have been there.

I do not ever want women ordained. Where does the media find these women on tv demanding equal rights in the Catholic Church and 'OPEN DIALOGUE"? I voted NO! NEVER!

Please leave our beautiful Catholic Church alone.
 
I’m over 50, but a very new baby who will be taking the adult class next fall. By this time next year, I hope to be a Catholic. Da whole rest of da family is Protestant! :eek:

At one point in my studies, I came across the statement that a priest is an “icon” of Jesus. (The quotes were in the original.)

Suddenly it was all simple. If a priest is an icon - a physical representation - of Christ, then of course I can’t be a priest, because I don’t have the anatomy.

Which makes me smile because I used to say (back in my feminazi days) that it was silly that mere anatomy could keep me from doing some jobs!

:rolleyes:

Take the things I say with a grain of salt - I’m steeped in the Protestant tradition, and have a LOT of learning -and unlearning - to do!

YSIC,
Ruthie
 
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hthrlu:
This will be my last post on this board. I came to the forums before my baptism and confirmation, looking for some ideas for gifts for my sponsor. I thought that I would find a Catholic place to talk to people that I could talk about my ideas and feelings, beliefs and spirituality, and be received as well as my parish church. Boy, was I wrong.

I have stated that I believed that female ordination was in God’s hands, and that if he wanted it to be, it would be made known to us (the flip-side to this is that if God doesn’t want female ordination, things will stay as they are, okay by me…). There is nothing blasphemous about this. I haven’t said that women should be ordained, or that they have any right to be ordained. Only that the issue is in God’s hands, and anyone who stated that it was impossible was discounting any control God had in the situation. After all, any non-believer could say that a virgin birth is impossible, too…

I have been mocked and ridiculed. I have been talked down to, told that my beliefs are malformed, and that I need to be re-chatechized. I have had only one poster here that talked to me like I was a human being, and I thanked him for it.

I have read the gospels, and Acts. I have seen that during Jesus’s time, it was the Pharisees who were sticklers for rules and regulation - how are you all any different? How can you sit here and condemn me and my beliefs (which are that God is omnipotent…) by telling me what the rules and doctrine are? Are you no better than the Pharisees for condemning Jesus for thinking outside the box?

I have never stated that we should change the doctrine of the church. I have never stated that women had any right to be ordained. I simply said that if it were God’s will, He would let us know.

Also, regarding the “feminazi” (there is no “t” in “Nazi”) and "priest " vs “priestess” terminology - I was a communication major in college. I have a Bachelor’s degree in Communication, and my emphasis was in language. I studied the language, and the characteristics of it. I learned from respectable scholars. The -ess suffix IS demeaning to women, period. Those who continue to use it are mocking and demeaning their opponents - a sure sign of a malformed platform. The same logic goes for “feminazi” - although this is a more serious offense. Charging me, a pro-life feminist of the John Paul tradition, with the death of millions of innocents is slander and offensive. I have been anti-abortion since I was 10 years old. I am not responsible for the death of the aborted babies because I believe in equality. You all are warped.

Please don’t pray for me and my family. I don’t need to see the errors of my ways. I especially don’t need help from those who are so stubborn and hard-headed that they can’t even agree that God is omnipotent. My husband, a cradle-Catholic who could be an apologist, and I will be just fine.

I am sorry to say that I will not be able to recommend this forum to the protestants in my life who are considering Catholicism. I hoped I had found a loving and Christ-like atmosphere here, but I found the same old “I am right and you need to read the Bible” attitude that I found at any protestant venue. I hope I do a better job of showing Christ to the world than I have found here.

Thanks.
Heather
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Look what you all did to this woman! Yes, she was in error (there’s no such thing as a woman priest), but she’s brand new, and was obviously very poorly catechized(if at all). you had her in a place where she could have learned the real faith, and you chased her right out of here and into God knows what pseudo catholic sect. Shame on you!!! I read this whole thread in an e-mail sent to me, and wonder whose BRILLIANT idea it was. How about this poll question–what flavor is the cheese the moon is made of?
 
Bishop Morlino, diocese of Madison, WI, said something v important at last weekend’s confirmation Mass. Speaking to those he just confirmed, he said they should all consider a call to the priesthood or as a nun, but to remember that we need strong, holy men and women called to the married life to raise those people who will be our clergy and religious in the future. I thought that was great!

He took time just before the blessing to give a strong ‘vote pro-life’ message. What a treasure he is and we are so blessed to have him.

Pray for all vocations and our present clergy and religious to serve well and be faithful.
 
Married women receive the Sacrament of Marriage. Nuns receive no Sacrament I don’t feel that women should be priests in that they celebrate the Mass but I do feel that nuns should get the same graces that married women get.
 
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jeffersondg:
Look what you all did to this woman! Yes, she was in error (there’s no such thing as a woman priest), but she’s brand new, and was obviously very poorly catechized(if at all). you had her in a place where she could have learned the real faith, and you chased her right out of here and into God knows what pseudo catholic sect. Shame on you!!! I read this whole thread in an e-mail sent to me, and wonder whose BRILLIANT idea it was. How about this poll question–what flavor is the cheese the moon is made of?
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Oh, come now. It’s rather clear that she came into this discussion with a big chip on her shoulder & instead of engaging calmly in a dialogue with those who disagree with her, she resorted to the same judgemental & hypocritical ranting of which she accused everyone else. Punctuating it with that tired old business about how un-Christian everyone here is doesn’t make it any better, no matter how articulate she is. So she basically picked up her ball & went home because nobody liked playing with her? Quite mature… So why do you choose to defend someone like this?

Now that I got that out of my system… For the record, I’m in my early forties & I strongly disagree with the whole notion of ordaining women. I agree with the posts who said that this is basically a non-issue & really not much of a subject. The Church’s position on this is abundantly clear & we either accept it or we don’t. When you grow up, you begin to learn quite a lot of things, like the fact that our Lord gave us a church & not a “politically correct” democracy - and that everyone who disagrees with you isn’t some nasty old spoilsport.
 
I am a 77 year old married woman.
NO! Women cannot be Priests.

I am disappointed to read so many hostile posts on this forum. I seldom come here for that very reason. I clicked the link that came in an email from Catholic Answers, because I was curious.
I’m not real glad I came, but as long as I’m here, I’ll put in my 2 cents worth.
 
I am a male so I am not supposed to post on this forum. I will not therefore give any arguments against the ordination of women.

What concerns me is that this forum should not exist at all, because Rome has clearly and repeatedly pronounced on this subject and declared the subject decided and not negotiable.

I would not mind so much if the forum was simply asking for a deeper understanding as to why the Church has taken the stand that it has, but instead the forum is taking exactly the line that the feminist and theologically liberal groups in the church are taking, namely that the ordination of women is a subject open to popular debate and therefore to the applying of popular pressure on the Church to change its policy.
 
As I was reading Pope John Paul II’s letter to women in 1996 (a gift from a priest), I was moved to join the Catholic Church. Reading the Pope’s letter was like reading a love letter, in my experience. I felt truly loved for who I am for the first time in my adult life. With the help of the Holy Spirit, he helped me understand who I was meant to be as a woman, and that I was not meant to be used as a tool for men’s pleasure, and men are not meant to be used as a tool for my pleasure. We are meant to be signs of God’s love to each other, and to appreciate each other for the unique gifts God has given each of us. How the idea of the complementarity of the sexes resonated with me, after so many years of trying to compete with men so I could be “good enough.” This wonderful man convinces me that I’m not just “good enough” as a woman, but my being a woman is a gift to the world. I had always assumed Catholic priests could not possibly understand women, but amazingly, this celebate man understood me better than I understood myself. How could that be unless the Holy Spirit helped him to know these things? Thank you, God, for Pope John Paul II, may he rest in peace! And thank you for Holy Mother Church!
 
I’ve an idea. God often chooses those who ‘humanly speaking’ would not be the best for the job, so that it can be clear that the ‘success’ can be seen as a result of His action/power and not the work of people. This is a major theme in the lives of many saints & in the apostles, I mean look at St. Peter. So maybe God instituted a male only priesthood because women would have been so much better at it than men.😉
 
It seems to me that women are on a crusade to take over everything that is male oriented. In the beginning, it was good to be considered persons in our own right, and to be able to vote, and other such things that were unfair and an affront to women. It was good that women got all those rights.

Priestess…that sounds to me like a snowball barrelling down the hill and not knowing how to stop. When will it be enough? God seemed quite satisfied with His creation of man the breadwinner and woman the childbearer. Do you suppose He was wrong? Egad! When will it stop?
 
Though I struggle with this teaching the most of all, upon return to the Church about a year and a half ago, I see how abysmal life can be without the faith.

I have listened and read with a really open mind to people like Fr Corapi, Fr Pacwa, and John Martinoni among others explain why women can not ever be ordained as priests. Though I still do struggle and have doubts sometimes, ultimately I voted “women can never be priests” as a way of saying to the Church and the Lord “not my will, but thine be done”.
 
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What concerns me is that this forum should not exist at all, because Rome has clearly and repeatedly pronounced on this subject and declared the subject decided and not negotiable.

How is a person who does not agree with the teaching of the Church, but may be trying to conform their conscience to the teachings of the Church supposed to do it if there cannot be a discussion about such issues?

How can they seek to change their postition when those in dicussion with them call them names?

Lumping all those who question the ordination of women as a FemiNazi is not going to help them listen to reasons on why they are wrong and the teaching of the Church is right.

In fact, there is one person who brought up an intriguing argument I had never seen before and no one even deigned to discuss they are wrong. I personally do not know if there has been any discussion by the church on the issues she brought up and said so.
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The issue of the ordination of women revolves around “sacramental matter”. Just as we use water for baptism (not apple juice) and bread for the Eucharist (not vegetables), the church says that maleness defines what it means to “image Christ” and therefore what it takes to be a priest. I have a problem with that reasoning and so would welcome a CHANGE in our perception of what is “fit sacramental matter”.
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**Here’s the thing: why is it that maleness in particular is the quality needed to “image Christ”? Jesus was also Jewish. Jesus was middle-eastern. Jesus was a lot of things besides just being male. Why did that one characteristic of his humanity get singled out?
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How about a discussion on this very valid question? May be a simple answer, but I have never heard it. As one who believes that there can never be women priests, I still do not know how to answer these probably very simple questions.

How about it, why not address these very pointed questions?

God Bless,
Maria
 
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elizabeth4truth:
I didn’t vote becuase I don’t know God’s will for the future. I do trust however, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Pope, in faith and moral decisions that will advance His Church upon the earth, as he seeks to do God’s will.

If women ever become priests, it will be by God’s Will, alone!
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Originally Posted by elizabeth4truth
*I didn’t vote becuase I don’t know God’s will for the future. I do trust however, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Pope, in faith and moral decisions that will advance His Church upon the earth, as he seeks to do God’s will.

If women ever become priests, it will be by God’s Will, alone!*

Wow, I like this statement. Now I wish I could take my vote back since I really am unsure.
 
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