Women "Priests" in the news . . . How do we feel about this?

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My 2 cents for your scrap-book BarbaraTherese.

Actually, as a man, I can understand your point of view, ie. you don’t have to like it, but you are not about to defy the Church.

Can you imagine how a Protestant minister must feel when God unequivocally shows him that he must be a Catholic? I think about this every time I listen to Marcus Grodi. Most of those ministers coming into the Church are married. Essentially they are called to be out-of-work, at least in the vocation they had been following, because the priesthood is celibate. That must be a hard blow, personally as well as financially.

The other issue, from a man’s perspective is this. Perhaps God is compensating men for the fact that he chose a woman to take the highest place of honour and veneration in the Kingdom, second only to Jesus Himself, who is God as well as man. It is rather unfair, isn’t it, that a man could not be the God-bearer? Or that it is only women that can create and grow life inside of them, a high honour, wherein God participates by infusing a soul to make a brand new human being to love Him.

Order of authority aside, everything the vast majority of men do is because of women, the woman if he is a married man in the traditional (Catholic)sense, or women generally if he is the decadent secular man. Look around you, virtually everything in pop culture is centred on women. Now that culture, it is true, despite 40-50 years of feminism, totally objectifies women, and cons them into thinking they chose that highly sexualized existence.

Take a look at a couple of high-school teenagers walking down the street. It’s classic. The boy will be wearing a knee length oversized T-shirt, baggy pants with the crotch at knee level and a peak-cap turned a quarter turn. (Thirty years ago we would have felt sorry for such a kid, either for his poverty or for his mental incapacity) The girl beside him will be following the Turkish fashion trend, the belly dancer look, highly sexuallized, (not nearly as comfortable as the boy beside her in hot weather I’d guess), the underwear(if that is what it is) pulled up above the belt line of the low-rider jeans, shorts, mini-skirt or whatever she’s wearing, to add focus to the groin area below the exposed belly (pierced quite often). Add a tight short top and you have it. (Thirty years ago we would have thought this outfit denoted a street hooker)
The pair are walking anachronisms in the feminist sense, yet there they are, the latest in pop culture. She’s the object, he’s the follower.
It has been forever thus. Us old guys laugh at it sometimes, but nothing much has changed. Women rule the world anyway, we know that. The only guys that real bug the feminists are the celibate males. The feminists sense they have no hold on those guys and it irritates them. A sign of contradiction, yes?
 
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ThornGenX:
but not allowing women to be priests still does not make sense to me. In a world where a woman can be “president” or a similar role (ok, the US has not had a female president but other countries have had female leaders), or CEO of a company, I just don’t see why they are banned from church leadership.
Good point if you compare the priesthood of Jesus Christ to worldly offices. “I have given them your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.” John 17:14

Since Christ is not of this world how can you compare those who have been called to the priesthood of Christ as men in a worldly office?

Has the Church ever used the word ‘banned’ in explaining why women can not be ordained?
 
I have not read any of the previous posts but can really see how sensitive this issue is. I used to train our Mass servers…and guess what they said girls will become servers…great I said…the first step to equality…women priests…I can’t wait…well many years later I can see the error’s in my thinking,God Bless and Keep the Teaching Authority of His Church!
Peace to All,
Mike
 
I would think it important to know the reasons the Church has for not ordaining women, so I am posting one Church explanation of this matter. (Though some people have aready given some of the reasons the Church provides.) This explanation is at:
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFINSIG.HTM
 
My parents have always been great teachers to me and my 5 siblings, each in their own way.

My wonderful mother, when I asked her as a young teen why women couldn’t be priests, responded, with a flip of her hand, in her funny little Irish way, “Paugh! We have better things to do!”

[Pleeease do not read deeply into this statement. My mom loves priests and humbly repsects the priesthood. She, of course, did not mean that priests acting as Christ, presenting us laity with Eucharist were not important…]

My dad, the contract law specialist, in his precise, German, know-it-all way liked to say,
“If you want to play baseball with 15 players, go ahead. Just don’t call it baseball.”

PIC
 
I would absolutely REFUSE to receive a communion host consecrated by a female priest, as such an act would be tempting God to strike me down with a bolt of lightning for daring commit such sacrilege in the Holy of Holies. It would be like spitting in God’s face.

I’m still too much of a Traditionalist to accept women priests, and apparently, so is Pope Benedict XVI, for every woman that has defied him by being ordained has been excommunicated!

I don’t mean to sound so harsh by offending my fellow women, but as a woman myself, I have observed that the feminist movement has gone as far as it should go. I would like it to stop. I have no desire to have men and women so alike in occupation and role that we become an androgynous society. I like being a woman, and I like that men have “men roles” and women have “women roles.” I think it’s a man’s job to be a priest.

Also, Jesus is a dude, not a dudette, and the priesthood should reflect this by being only made up of dudes.

(Note: I’m not a hard-liner traditionalist, but am actually quite middle-of-the-road on most things).
 
I don’t think the church should allow woman priests thats why there are Nuns.
 
Thank you to all who are posting into this thread. I now feel that if someone asks me I can give logical and clear reasons why we do not have a female priesthood.

And as I have said in a couple of Posts…at times I do not understand the whys and wherefores of certain Church laws and regulations, I remain absolutely faithful to the teaching authority of The Church as the seat of wisdom that transcends my understanding. That is my personal stance. Yet in this day and age of questioning of religious matters which is good and healthy, I maintain, and reveals a renewed interest of society in religious matters … we need to have clear and logical answers to the whys and wherefores of our beliefs. I maintain that if we are to evangelize our society, our neighbourhood, we need to start to make sense to them. Faith remains a gratuitious gift of God, but we are certainly tillers of the soil for the seed of Faith to take seed and grow. God sows, God reaps - we are the labourers tilling the soil in his vineyards.

Therefore, let us not be afraid to pose questions and to seek answers, no matter how contentious the issue may be - such questioning does not necessarily represent that personal Faith is shaky or abandoned.

Regards Barb:)
Bethany South Australia
 
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GoldenArrow:
I would absolutely REFUSE to receive a communion host consecrated by a female priest,…
Yes.
But in our area recently, I intended to go to a scheduled Mass, but instead, found myself at a “Communion Service” since the priest was not available. (I guess that is what it is called). The minister or presider or whatever she is called said the entire service, which was fairly long, and gave out the Holy Communion, which was supposedly consecrated a day or so ago by a Catholic priest. I was told that this type of service has the official approval of the RCC. I would be interested to know how you would feel about receiving communion from this lady in a Catholic Church Communion service officially approved by the Church.
It does look to me like the question of female Catholic priests has already been answered definitively in the negative, but I am not an expert in Church matters. Actually, not too long ago, a Catholic priest in our area, who was a rather intelligent professor at a prestigious college, oftentimes asserted his opinion that the RCC is way behind the times and that women should have been made priests a long time ago.
 
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stanley123:
I would be interested to know how you would feel about receiving communion from this lady in a Catholic Church Communion service officially approved by the Church.
She’s not a priest, just an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion. No problem whatsoever.
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stanley123:
Actually, not too long ago, a Catholic priest in our area, who was a rather intelligent professor at a prestigious college, oftentimes asserted his opinion that the RCC is way behind the times and that women should have been made priests a long time ago.
Then this priest decided to ignore what sacraments are and Who instituded them.

If being in step with the times were any good, then Anglicanism wouldn’t be dwindling in Western countries.

It’s funny how the Church’s detractors wish that she were more Protestant… Well, not funny at all, it’s on purpose, because having a weak enemy is much better than a resilent one. 😉

:blessyou:
 
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stanley123:
Yes.
But in our area recently, I intended to go to a scheduled Mass, but instead, found myself at a “Communion Service” since the priest was not available. (I guess that is what it is called). The minister or presider or whatever she is called said the entire service, which was fairly long, and gave out the Holy Communion, which was supposedly consecrated a day or so ago by a Catholic priest. I was told that this type of service has the official approval of the RCC. I would be interested to know how you would feel about receiving communion from this lady in a Catholic Church Communion service officially approved by the Church.
It does look to me like the question of female Catholic priests has already been answered definitively in the negative, but I am not an expert in Church matters. Actually, not too long ago, a Catholic priest in our area, who was a rather intelligent professor at a prestigious college, oftentimes asserted his opinion that the RCC is way behind the times and that women should have been made priests a long time ago.
I would not go to a communion service unless there was no way I could get to a mass instead.

In fact, if there is a church that has mass within a reasonable drive OR if there is mass at that same church at any other time, there should be no communion service.

Also, I detest the name “communion service” as if this is some type of gas station where we fill up on Jesus.
 
Women can never be ordained. That issue is closed as per Pope John Paul II. Just one reason against it (although there are many and many for an all male priesthood) is that the Church is the bride of Christ and the priest stands in the person of Christ. For a female to stand in the person of Christ would be spiritual homosexuality and it is no wonder that many, if not most, of female pastors are homosexual and that women priests are pushed by the homosexual community.
 
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Brad:
I would not go to a communion service unless there was no way I could get to a mass instead.
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In the case I was talking about, there was scheduled for that time and place a Mass. However, when the time arrived for the scheduled Mass, the “communion service” took place instead.
 
I find it downright embarrassing that women still pursue this. To me, that’s nothing short of reaching for forbidden fruit. Of all that we may have in the garden, why must we reach for the forbidden fruit? Men, please don’t fall for it again–don’t let it happen.

Jesus has led by example. The Church has spoken. What else has to happen that we may believe?
 
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stanley123:
In the case I was talking about, there was scheduled for that time and place a Mass. However, when the time arrived for the scheduled Mass, the “communion service” took place instead.
Oh. I didn’t mean to make a judgement about what you did or didn’t do. I was just making a statement about how I felt about them. Sorry if it came across that way.
 
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vitalsigns:
I find it downright embarrassing that women still pursue this. To me, that’s nothing short of reaching for forbidden fruit. Of all that we may have in the garden, why must we reach for the forbidden fruit? Men, please don’t fall for it again–don’t let it happen.

Jesus has led by example. The Church has spoken. What else has to happen that we may believe?
It’s not just the women. Many men push for this too. Disgraceful.
 
I know some friends of mine that are women. They say women should be priests. But guess what… they haven’t been practicing Catholics for YEARS. And it has nothing to do with the fact that women aren’t ordained.
It’s more of I’ll do what I want and I don’t have to listen to anyone. Then they wonder why they aren’t married or have a solid relationship… they don’t want to meet anyone in the middle or work at anything.

My point is, many people will say they want women priests, but most aren’t going to found in the pews on Sunday morning.
 
Why would a woman want to become a priest? She can serve God and the Church just as completely and fully in an order of sisters, so then why the desire to become a priest? Because she wants to be able to consecrate the Host? Isn’t that less about God’s will and more about her own? She wants the power a priest has…that’s pure inner motive, nothing Godly. A true woman of God would be just as content in her place as a sister, a Bride of Christ…
 
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Brad:
Oh. I didn’t mean to make a judgement about what you did or didn’t do. I was just making a statement about how I felt about them. Sorry if it came across that way.
Hello Brad:
That’s what I understood, that you were just making a statement about how you felt. I only pointing out that someitmes Catholics who don’t really want to attend a Communion Service might end up at one anyway, as sometimes changes are made at the last minute without notification beforehand.
I guess we agree on this issue, so it is no problem at all as far as I am concerned.
Thanks and best wishes
 
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