Working and living with two gay men; advice?

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Kinda bizarre that an internship would require you to stay at your employers house. I am not sure that I would agree to that on that principle alone.
 
If it’s organic gardening, this seems like an area where it might be a mentor type relationship more than a traditional “internship”. This seems less weird to me now, and I think it depends on the living arrangement. (mother-in-law suite, different floor, etc might be fine).
 
The Church does teach what I say it teaches. Our Holy Father has affirmed this because it cannot change. The catechism says "under no circumstances can they [the relationship] be approved.

If I am wrong, then what does the Church teach?
 
The Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful. They are sinful because they can’t result in pro-creation. They say it is sinful because the Church doesn’t recognize gay marriage, so therefore homosexuals engaging in sexual activity are doing so outside the bounds of marriage.

The Catholic Church doesn’t teach that the love a homosexual couple has for each other lacks mutual, genuine affection.
 
Love is love. It matters not who approves it or not.

Your response doesn’t address the fact that the Church doesn’t teach what you claimed it does.
 
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Sure. Who are we to judge? That includes the quality, degree, and nature of the love one human being has for another.

If you want to talk about sexual activity, you can do that all day. I know what the Church teaches about that and I don’t agree with any of it.

I also know what it teaches about love. We shouldn’t conflate the two.
 
The Church teaches that homosexuality is intrinsicaly and objectively disordered. Can the love be genuine? Maybe. But it stems from a disorder and so cannot be approved.
 
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Sure. Who are we to judge? That includes the quality, degree, and nature of the love one human being has for another.

If you want to talk about sexual activity, you can do that all day. I know what the Church teaches about that and I don’t agree with any of it.

I also know what it teaches about love. We shouldn’t conflate the two.
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You spend a lot of time and effort here for an agnostic. I wonder why…
 
No. I am not judging Catholic03. I am challenging and judging the statements made by Catholic03.

I hope we can agree there is a difference between judging one’s statements, and judging someone’s heart.
 
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I hope we can agree there is a difference between judging one’s statements, and judging someone’s heart.
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Sometimes they intermingle. For example, I could judge someone’s claim that their love is true, in which case they are the same thing.
 
Yes, but the more consequential of the two is what would matter. I guess only you would know which one that would be.

Personally, I like to take people at face value and not judge hearts. I try my best to have faith that everyone has a good heart. I will judge actions and words, though, probably way more than I should.
 
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Yes, but look at the stories we hear about nannies. Joking, only joking.
 
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Love is love. It matters not who approves it or not.

Your response doesn’t address the fact that the Church doesn’t teach what you claimed it does.
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No, “love” is not love unless it is true love as God means it, as Jesus shows it, as the Church teaches it.

A teaching from Fr. Harden:
According to St. Augustine the human race can be divided into two cities. Two loves, he says, have made these two cities: self-love, even to the contempt of God, and the love of God, even to the contempt of self. Between these two loves is divided the whole family of mankind. *Here, if anywhere, by their respective fruits, can be recognized true love and its approximations as also its spurious counterparts. In real life this self-giving to God is mainly put into practice by our selfless love for others.

My God," we are prompted to pray, “is it possible for weak human nature to rise to these heights? Can we really love in this selfless way?” His answer to us is the reply the angel gave to our Lady, “Nothing is impossible to God.” What we cannot do, He can achieve in us and through us by the power of His grace. *True love is not a theory. It is not poetry or pious fancy. It is a reality, the reality of a Person who became Man and dwells among us. In this love we can all have a share provided we allow Incarnate love to take over the mastery of our hearts.
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Good one Fide!

“Love is love”. That sounds nice - - about as nice as “Co-exist”.

My kids learned in their excellent Catholic elementary school that love is “willing the good of the other” which is 1766 in the CCC.
 
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If love isn’t true love, then it isn’t love at all. I don’t disagree with that at all.
 
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My kids learned in their excellent Catholic elementary school that love is “willing the good of the other” which is 1766 in the CCC.
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Yes - "Good one CCC! “willing the good of the other!” Not the good feelings, but the true good - as God means “the good”, as Jesus shows “the good”, as the Church teaches “the good.”
 
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