World's climate warming faster than feared, scientists say

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YOU Made point.
Well I have, but I’ve not made your point for you. Heh. Anyhow, I happen to think that consciousness awakening and shifts also has something to do with environmental changes, and … human energy and emotion.

I once knew a sudden torrential down-pouring, brought on by none other than ❤️
 
Luckily the church doesn’t believe in this conspiracy theory. The Pontifical Academy of Sciences has a paper addressing the seriousness of this complex phenomenon urging international action, and so did Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
Was that done before or after we found E Anglia was cooking the books, stifling dissent and before or after the warming stopped for 15 years and counting
 
I read plenty.

This is for you:

“Thermal pollution is the rise or fall in the temperature of a natural body of water caused by human influence. Thermal pollution, unlike chemical pollution, results in a change in the physical properties of water. **A common cause of thermal pollution is the use of water as a coolant by power plants and industrial manufacturers. **Elevated water temperatures decreases oxygen levels, which can kill fish, and can alter food chain composition, reduce species biodiversity, and foster invasion by new thermophilic species.[18][19][20] Urban runoff may also elevate temperature in surface waters.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution#Thermal_pollution

Humanity = guilty as charged (lol)

In seriousness though, yes, human activity has caused serious problems for Earth, atmosphere and the collective environment. Electromagnetic toxicity is the least known, and least understood, harm. But I suppose, if it isn’t taught in schools and universities, if great scientists haven’t published journals and books (yet), it has to be denied and dismissed? Try thinking outside the box…
I section in bold is incorrect. At the plant that I work at, which is typical for industry today, water used for cooling is recirculated over and over through a Cooling Tower and reused again. There is a little bit of make-up to replace the water that is lost through evaporation. Since the water is treated before being put into cooling service, which costs money, it is not good business to just dump it into a local water stream. Furthermore, all water that is discharged from the plant is treated, as required by permit, including for the amount of oxygen in the discharge stream. This water is tested by a third party for compliance, including for the amount of oxygen in the discharge stream. This testing includes verifying that guppies both grown and reproduce in the tested water. So there is much more to this than what your Wikipedia quote states.

DGB
 
I section in bold is incorrect. At the plant that I work at, which is typical for industry today, water used for cooling is recirculated over and over through a Cooling Tower and reused again. There is a little bit of make-up to replace the water that is lost through evaporation. Since the water is treated before being put into cooling service, which costs money, it is not good business to just dump it into a local water stream. Furthermore, all water that is discharged from the plant is treated, as required by permit, including for the amount of oxygen in the discharge stream. This water is tested by a third party for compliance, including for the amount of oxygen in the discharge stream. This testing includes verifying that guppies both grown and reproduce in the tested water. So there is much more to this than what your Wikipedia quote states.

DGB
It isn’t my wikipedia. heehee

The place where you worked might not be the way it is everywhere. Here are the sources cited for that paragraph:

Goel, P.K. (2006). Water Pollution - Causes, Effects and Control. New Delhi: New Age International. p. 179. ISBN 978-81-224-1839-2.
Kennish, Michael J. (1992). Ecology of Estuaries: Anthropogenic Effects. Marine Science Series. Boca Raton, FL: CRC Press. pp. 415–17. ISBN 978-0-8493-8041-9.
Laws, Edward A. (2000). Aquatic Pollution: An Introductory Text. New York: John Wiley and Sons. p. 430. ISBN 978-0-471-34875-7.

You can edit the wiki, if you like. Just be sure to cite your source(s).
 
Was that done before or after we found E Anglia was cooking the books, stifling dissent and before or after the warming stopped for 15 years and counting
Let me ask you something. Doesn’t it strike you as the least bit odd that global warming would stop in 1999? Just up and stop one year? Does that seem characteristic of natural phenomena? No waning, just up and stop one day.

Allow me to explain why any article that claims that global warming stopped X exact number of years ago should be immediately suspect. Since you’re an accountant (aren’t you?), I assume you know something about statistics, right? If I take a data set, say temperature records going back a hundred years, and I find an upward linear trend, do a statistical significance test, and find that I have a very much statistically significant trend. Next suppose I take a 50 (say, 1920-1970) year chuck out of that 100 year data set and run the numbers again. Curiously, I will find that the trend appears less statistically significant than from the 100 year trend; the p-value is greater. Then, if I take just 20 years (maybe 1960-1680) the p-value gets even bigger! Eventually, if I make the data set (timescale) small enough, the resultant trend appears to be statistically insignificant; maybe, that timescale happens to be 15 years; that is, only on a timescale of >15 years does the trend appear significant. Does this mean that the 100 year upward trend is nonsense, because it doesn’t show up in any 15 year selection of the data? Obviously not. For one, larger data sets are inherently more reliable than smaller ones. The signal to noise ratio increases as timescale decreases. Same as with stock market trends or yearly climate cycles. If you took temperature readings in the northern hemisphere for every 6 hour period between Sept 1 and Dec 30, you would find that almost none of those 6 hr periods show a significant downward trend in temperature. Would you consider this proof that Winter has ceased to happen? Just because the temperature change concomitant with it cannot be observed on a small 6 hr timescale?

Wanna know how they came up with that ‘15 years’ claim? The did everything backwards, basically. They set the p-value equal to 0.05 (assuming they were doing a t-test for the slope of the curve; maybe they used another kind of test), standard indicator of statistical significance, they then plugged the data from temperature readings into the significance test, and what they got was the number of years over which they could say that the trend was no longer ‘statistically significant.’ 15 years was the largest timescale they could do without the p-value going. I have a suspicion if you looked at the data for 16 years going back to '98, you’d find that the trend was in fact statistically significant again.

Of course, a picture is worth a thousand words:
Edit: graphic didn’t load for some reason. I’ll just post the link: skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
It only takes a couple seconds to see the whole ‘animation.’ I forgot that it wasn’t just a static image.

Anyway, still think it’s reasonable to look at that last flat short-term ‘trendline’ and declare that it’s stopped?

You say ‘and counting.’ If I’m right (and I’m willing to bet you good money that I am) they’ll still be saying it stopped “15 years ago” or maybe 13 or 16 or whatever, in 2025. And if they’re still doubters, in 2050. Funny how that number never seems to get much bigger than that.
 
Allow me to explain why any article that claims that global warming stopped X exact number of years ago should be immediately suspect. …Wanna know how they came up with that ‘15 years’ claim? Funny how that number never seems to get much bigger than that.
Well, the “they” in this case is NASA, and the issue was raised five years ago when they noted that warming had stopped for a decade. That’s how the number got to 15 - its been five years since they first raised the issue, and it appears to be a significant period of time since not a single climate model allowed for warming to stop for that long. Funny how they all had to modify their predictions in order to accommodate real life.

Ender
 
Let me ask you something. Doesn’t it strike you as the least bit odd that global warming would stop in 1999? Just up and stop one year? Does that seem characteristic of natural phenomena? No waning, just up and stop one day.

Allow me to explain why any article that claims that global warming stopped X exact number of years ago should be immediately suspect. Since you’re an accountant (aren’t you?), I assume you know something about statistics, right? If I take a data set, say temperature records going back a hundred years, and I find an upward linear trend, do a statistical significance test, and find that I have a very much statistically significant trend. Next suppose I take a 50 (say, 1920-1970) year chuck out of that 100 year data set and run the numbers again. Curiously, I will find that the trend appears less statistically significant than from the 100 year trend; the p-value is greater. Then, if I take just 20 years (maybe 1960-1680) the p-value gets even bigger! Eventually, if I make the data set (timescale) small enough, the resultant trend appears to be statistically insignificant; maybe, that timescale happens to be 15 years; that is, only on a timescale of >15 years does the trend appear significant. Does this mean that the 100 year upward trend is nonsense, because it doesn’t show up in any 15 year selection of the data? Obviously not. For one, larger data sets are inherently more reliable than smaller ones. The signal to noise ratio increases as timescale decreases. Same as with stock market trends or yearly climate cycles. If you took temperature readings in the northern hemisphere for every 6 hour period between Sept 1 and Dec 30, you would find that almost none of those 6 hr periods show a significant downward trend in temperature. Would you consider this proof that Winter has ceased to happen? Just because the temperature change concomitant with it cannot be observed on a small 6 hr timescale?

Wanna know how they came up with that ‘15 years’ claim? The did everything backwards, basically. They set the p-value equal to 0.05 (assuming they were doing a t-test for the slope of the curve; maybe they used another kind of test), standard indicator of statistical significance, they then plugged the data from temperature readings into the significance test, and what they got was the number of years over which they could say that the trend was no longer ‘statistically significant.’ 15 years was the largest timescale they could do without the p-value going. I have a suspicion if you looked at the data for 16 years going back to '98, you’d find that the trend was in fact statistically significant again.

Of course, a picture is worth a thousand words:
Edit: graphic didn’t load for some reason. I’ll just post the link: skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
It only takes a couple seconds to see the whole ‘animation.’ I forgot that it wasn’t just a static image.

Anyway, still think it’s reasonable to look at that last flat short-term ‘trendline’ and declare that it’s stopped?

You say ‘and counting.’ If I’m right (and I’m willing to bet you good money that I am) they’ll still be saying it stopped “15 years ago” or maybe 13 or 16 or whatever, in 2025. And if they’re still doubters, in 2050. Funny how that number never seems to get much bigger than that.
i dont think it stopped in 1999-i dont think it stared in the first palce
 
Global warming stopped in 1999 which is why nine of the ten warmest years ever recorded are after 1999…
 
Is man the cause of this, too?
So, Humanity wants to take credit for good things, but not be accountable and responsible (“at fault” and “to blame”) for detrimental things?

The Lighthouse is a man-made object, right? It didn’t grow there, naturally. Nature didn’t put it there. Human beings put it there. What else have human beings done?

Here’s an old song:

“Stop”

Save the complaints
For a party conversation.
The world is loaded,
It’s lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop…

No one…
No one!
No way!
Gonna stop,
Now; go!

Farm people,
Book wavers, soul savers,
Love preachers!
Lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop.

No one…

One come a day, the water will run,
No man will stand for things that he had done…
Hurrah!
And the water will run…
One come a day, the water will run,
No man will stand for things that he had done…
Hurrah!
And the water will run…
Will Run!
Will Run!

Gimmie that!
Gimmie that - your automobile,
Turn off that smokestack
And that goddamn radio
Hum… along with me…
Hum along with the t.v.

No one’s
Gonna
Stop!
 
1880

On and by the way, that data was only until 2011, 2012 also made it into the top ten years on record and 2013 is also expected to.
So after the last mini ice age. Wouldn’t it make sense that the world is warmer than at a low during a mini ice age?

The climate cycles.

Here is the world temps from last year
 
So after the last mini ice age. Wouldn’t it make sense that the world is warmer than at a low during a mini ice age?

The climate cycles.

Here is the world temps from last year
Apparently, it takes a long time for the world to fully warm up following a severe cold period, because the exchange of heat from the atmosphere to the world’s oceans is really slow, whereas the loss of heat from the oceans to a colder atmosphere is much faster. That’s because cooled water sinks and is “insulated” for a long time from atmospheric heat. Heated water, of course, does not sink to warm up the lower layers. I have read that the oceans are still “equalizing” from the effects of the Little Ice Age, it takes so long.
 
Apparently, it takes a long time for the world to fully warm up following a severe cold period, because the exchange of heat from the atmosphere to the world’s oceans is really slow, whereas the loss of heat from the oceans to a colder atmosphere is much faster. That’s because cooled water sinks and is “insulated” for a long time from atmospheric heat. Heated water, of course, does not sink to warm up the lower layers. I have read that the oceans are still “equalizing” from the effects of the Little Ice Age, it takes so long.
Deforestation has something to do with it, too.

epa.gov/climatechange/basics/
 
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